Similarity between Christians in Indonesia and Muslims in the West

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Greetings and peace be with you Pygoscelis;

In the sentiment of loving and improving humanity.
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Amen, justice and hope for all people, regardless of race, colour, or religion.

It is refreshing to find a Christian who places works above faith, as it should be.
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Atheists constantly thank me for the voluntary work that I have been doing over the last eight years, but that work depends on faith in God, I just could not do it otherwise.

The role of Street Pastor is one of caring for people, we do not go out to preach, and I make it a point to only talk about God if the other person brings the question up first. We wonder round the streets until 3 – 4 am, coming into contact with drunks, drugs, depression, suicide anger and violence, but mostly lots of wonderful people.

The violence is often a challenge, on the one hand, there is all the health and safety policies and risk assessments, and we have radios with a direct line to the police. On the other hand, it is pray as we go, I don’t know how many fights we have walked in the middle of, mostly they end up with handshakes and hugs. We get the hugs because we have some amazing lady street pastors, they are in their sixties and seventies, our oldest lady will be eighty this year.

We have no body armour or pepper sprays, we don't do self defence or running, we are truthfully just left with faith in God.

But you are still left with a God accepting (or demanding?) the suffering and death of one innocent person and that somehow vicariously excusing other people who did wrong. Are you not? What did Jesus' "died for our sins" sacrifice accomplish if not to somehow clean away our sins? If it was just a brave act of self destruction (though not really because he rose on the 3rd day), what was the point on this divine suicide?
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I think you should pose this question on a Christian forum.

In the spirit of searching for God, and in the sentiment of loving and improving humanity.

Eric
 
anatolian said:
Salam,

I dont think so. I think we can read from Bible to convince Christians and Jews. Many of Jews and Christians do not know what Bible says and they follow their religious teaching. If you show them how Bible is in accordance with Islam they will understand Islam better. But in order to do that you must be well aware of Quran and Hadith, more than Bible of course. Just my opinion.
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Assalamu Alaikum,
I agree with this opinion.
Suppose,we say things like:
:The previous scriptures have been corrupted,
:The Book Holy Qur'an is predicted in the previous scriptures,
:Prophet Muhammad (S) is a Prophet predicted in the previous scriptures,
:He (S) was predicted by Isa (A),
:etc,

Some times even The Holy Qur'an says some things and say that it is there in Injeel, or,that is how it is mentioned in Thaurat,etc
Few examples are that Qur'an says that in Injeel,the believers are compared to a seed(or plant?),and in the Thaurath,they are described as having their faces shining (or something similar,I don't remember the exact verse),Prophet Muhammad (S) is predicted in 'what is in front of them' ,etc.

The Christians or Jews may not agree.At that time,we will need to show them that what we say is correct.For this purpose,we may sometimes need to use some Bible verses to show them that what The Holy Qur'an says about previous scriptures is correct.
This is why I advocate the quoting of Bible and other scriptures.
But,completely depending on them is not good.As many brothers and sisters said here,we should teach others about our religion,Islam.So,we need to use Qur'an more.
I,in my experience,got many of my questions and doubts answered by just reading some Aayahs in the Holy Qur'an,and I was stunned because they were much better and stronger than any other answers,and It helped me a lot.

So my conclusion is:
We can use quotes from other scriptures,but We need to use Qur'an more for Da'wah.

I think I made my point clear.
Assalamu Alaikum.
 

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