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I hope you are aware that Greece isn't having any 'sudden change in policy out of the goodness of their heart of because they're über conscientious of 'freedoms', 'human rights' and whatever nonsense this fellow is selling you on. He merely shared a portion of his insta google scholarship you know the 'history is there and all' All there is to it, is that the Qatari emir is helping them financially just bought an island from those low lives!
So they'll begrudgingly and with protest as if they're doing us a favor change their policy.
And I say this with utmost disdain just thinking back on their recent history with Egypt and how they aided the (France/England) against us in the wars of 56 and 67!
What a hefty price to pay quite literally for a structure we can do without!
Also if you're not sure whether or not it's a good idea to have churches in umm al Qura I recommend reading suret at'tawbah!
We're not on equal footing here as decided by a secularist!
Blindness can't be equated with sight even with most florid terms!
I hope you are aware that Greece isn't having any 'sudden change in policy out of the goodness of their heart of because they're über conscientious of 'freedoms', 'human rights' and whatever nonsense this fellow is selling you on. He merely shared a portion of his insta google scholarship you know the 'history is there and all' All there is to it, is that the Qatari emir is helping them financially just bought an island from those low lives!
So they'll begrudgingly and with protest as if they're doing us a favor change their policy.
And I say this with utmost disdain just thinking back on their recent history with Egypt and how they aided the (France/England) against us in the wars of 56 and 67!
What a hefty price to pay quite literally for a structure we can do without!
Also if you're not sure whether or not it's a good idea to have churches in umm al Qura I recommend reading suret at'tawbah!
We're not on equal footing here as decided by a secularist!
Blindness can't be equated with sight even with most florid terms!
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There are some people giving the wrong answers on this thread with regards to Christians and their churches within Muslim lands. I can't post any links on this site as I don't have permission yet but there is a very good place to read up on these things : call to monotheism. It talks about the rights of non-muslims within muslim lands and what they can and can not do.
Please read and since I can't post a link, if you want it, do not hesitate to message me personally.
There are some people giving the wrong answers on this thread with regards to Christians and their churches within Muslim lands. I can't post any links on this site as I don't have permission yet but there is a very good place to read up on these things : call to monotheism. It talks about the rights of non-muslims within muslim lands and what they can and can not do.
Please read and since I can't post a link, if you want it, do not hesitate to message me personally.
the PDF book, Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam.
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Download the PDF book, Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam. This book, alhamdulillaah, clarifies the misconceptions about Islam.
Click here: www.cris.co.nf/English.html
Was-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Download the PDF book, Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam. This book, alhamdulillaah, clarifies the misconceptions about Islam.
Click here: www.cris.co.nf/English.html
Was-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Download the book, Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah,
Download the book, Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam, from: www.cris.co.nf/English.html
This book is very good in studying comparative religion.
Please let me know if you like the book
Was-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah,
Download the book, Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam, from: www.cris.co.nf/English.html
This book is very good in studying comparative religion.
Please let me know if you like the book
Was-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah,
I have found a book, which clarifies almost all famous misconceptions about Islam very effectively, alhamdulillaah. So I am sharing it here. The book is “Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam.” Every Muslim should read it, so that we may be able to deal with non-Muslims effectively. You can download it from: www.cris.co.nf
Please reply here if you like this book.
Was-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah,
I have found a book, which clarifies almost all famous misconceptions about Islam very effectively, alhamdulillaah. So I am sharing it here. The book is “Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam.” Every Muslim should read it, so that we may be able to deal with non-Muslims effectively. You can download it from: www.cris.co.nf
Please reply here if you like this book.
Was-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullah
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Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
Greetings,
Isn't it remarkable that a supposedly perfect system of life, designed by a perfectly intelligent being, contains so many controversies and requires such constant explanation and justification? It's also notable that the justifcations given are almost never satisfactory to non-Muslims, and the same issues keep coming up again and again, despite all the attempts to resolve them.
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Greetings,
Isn't it remarkable that a supposedly perfect system of life, designed by a perfectly intelligent being, contains so many controversies and requires such constant explanation and justification? It's also notable that the justifcations given are almost never satisfactory to non-Muslims, and the same issues keep coming up again and again, despite all the attempts to resolve them.
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Being an old-timer here, you should be aware that perfectly satisfactory answers have already been given to all the questions, yet new members or people new to Islam keep repeating the same questions again and again. Nobody wants to search and lookup the answers which were given previously.
Your post looks like an attempt to discredit all the debates our members had with you over the last decade. You should have known better.
Being an old-timer here, you should be aware that perfectly satisfactory answers have already been given to all the questions, yet new members or people new to Islam keep repeating the same questions again and again. Nobody wants to search and lookup the answers which were given previously.
Your post looks like an attempt to discredit all the debates our members had with you over the last decade. You should have known better.
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Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
Greetings,
I think I'll be the judge of whether I find the answers given in discussions here satisfactory or not, thank you very much. I have seen no adequate defence or justification for many of the injunctions of Islam; for example, among many other issues, the rulings on music and homosexuality, as well as the general hostility to free thought that exists in Islam.
People keep bringing up the same questions because they matter. You may not agree, but you ought to realise that to many of us outsiders, many of the teachings of Islam appear to be obviously false, unhelpful and / or dangerous. Would you agree that I'm perfectly entitled to hold that view?
Some of them have been worthwhile.
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Greetings,
I think I'll be the judge of whether I find the answers given in discussions here satisfactory or not, thank you very much. I have seen no adequate defence or justification for many of the injunctions of Islam; for example, among many other issues, the rulings on music and homosexuality, as well as the general hostility to free thought that exists in Islam.
People keep bringing up the same questions because they matter. You may not agree, but you ought to realise that to many of us outsiders, many of the teachings of Islam appear to be obviously false, unhelpful and / or dangerous. Would you agree that I'm perfectly entitled to hold that view?
Some of them have been worthwhile.
Peace
Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
Jazakallah khair for the link , its covering a wide range of Quran , Hadith & Madhabs but still did not go through.
Jazakallah khair for the link , its covering a wide range of Quran , Hadith & Madhabs but still did not go through.
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Once it has been explained that Allah :swt: is our Lord and Sustainer, and that He alone can be worshipped, then there remains no question of trying to justify His commands and prohibitions. Whatever He commands is for the best of His creations, whether we understand His wisdom or not.
It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error. [33:36]
Allah :swt: does not command something or prohibit something except for our own benefit. What would Allah gain if we follow His commands or what would He lose if we disobey Him? Nothing. He is Self-Sufficient and does not require our praise. It is all for our own benefit, in this world as well as the Hereafter.
Allah :swt: says:
... Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship [2:185]
Allah wants to make clear to you [the lawful from the unlawful] and guide you to the [good] practices of those before you and to accept your repentance. And Allah is Knowing and Wise. [4:26]
Allah wants to accept your repentance, but those who follow [their] passions want you to digress [into] a great deviation. [4:27]
And Allah wants to lighten for you [your difficulties]; and mankind was created weak. [4:28]
... Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful. [5:6]
And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as [was] the display of the former times of ignorance. And establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification. [33:33]
Once it has been explained that Allah :swt: is our Lord and Sustainer, and that He alone can be worshipped, then there remains no question of trying to justify His commands and prohibitions. Whatever He commands is for the best of His creations, whether we understand His wisdom or not.
It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error. [33:36]
Allah :swt: does not command something or prohibit something except for our own benefit. What would Allah gain if we follow His commands or what would He lose if we disobey Him? Nothing. He is Self-Sufficient and does not require our praise. It is all for our own benefit, in this world as well as the Hereafter.
Allah :swt: says:
... Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship [2:185]
Allah wants to make clear to you [the lawful from the unlawful] and guide you to the [good] practices of those before you and to accept your repentance. And Allah is Knowing and Wise. [4:26]
Allah wants to accept your repentance, but those who follow [their] passions want you to digress [into] a great deviation. [4:27]
And Allah wants to lighten for you [your difficulties]; and mankind was created weak. [4:28]
... Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful. [5:6]
And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as [was] the display of the former times of ignorance. And establish prayer and give zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification. [33:33]
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Greetings ibn-Adam,
Your post above is a perfect example of what I mean by Islam's hostility to free thought. Your words are a hymn to voluntary suspension of the critical faculties. Your intention is to obey without question. You do not seek to understand. You would rather shut all discussion down with an elaborate tribute to Allah's magnificence that doesn't address the points I made in any way.
Civilisations make progress largely through experiment and observation, research and innovation. This requires a basic curiosity about the world and its workings that is absolutely negated by your myopic position. A civilisation that adopted your point of view would stagnate and find it very difficult to recover.
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Greetings ibn-Adam,
Your post above is a perfect example of what I mean by Islam's hostility to free thought. Your words are a hymn to voluntary suspension of the critical faculties. Your intention is to obey without question. You do not seek to understand. You would rather shut all discussion down with an elaborate tribute to Allah's magnificence that doesn't address the points I made in any way.
Civilisations make progress largely through experiment and observation, research and innovation. This requires a basic curiosity about the world and its workings that is absolutely negated by your myopic position. A civilisation that adopted your point of view would stagnate and find it very difficult to recover.
Peace
Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
With all due respect, you have been on this forum for many years but from your words and how you write about Islam, it seems that you know and understand very little about it, it's teachings and its history. Because if you compared between the pre Islamic era and the Islamic era you wouldn't be making statements such as the last one, unless you were quite bias and unfair in your research, observation and analysis.
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Dear Czgibson,
With all due respect, you have been on this forum for many years but from your words and how you write about Islam, it seems that you know and understand very little about it, it's teachings and its history. Because if you compared between the pre Islamic era and the Islamic era you wouldn't be making statements such as the last one, unless you were quite bias and unfair in your research, observation and analysis.
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Not at all. You are being too judgmental in your post. Islam does not prevent understanding and using one's faculties to reason. What I am saying is from the faith point of view. Once we have faith in Allah, we place absolute trust on Him.
It is perfectly allowed to question and find reasons. Ibrahim :as:, even though he was one of the great Messengers, questioned Allah :swt: on how He raises the dead once again. Allah :swt: says:
And when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [ Allah ] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [ Allah ] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself. Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise." [2:260]
Several Muslim scholars have written books on reasoning and understanding. See for example, Hujjatullahi AlBaalighah by Shah Waliullah Dehlawi.
I would say your vision is myopic, not Muslims'. Muslims (practicing ones) are the most far-sighted people because we prepare for we need in the Hereafter.
Whereas atheists like you are the most myopic people, because they say "You live only once".
If atheists are right and Muslims are wrong, then nobody is at loss. Both of them live this life and die at the end.
But when Muslims are right and atheists are wrong, then Muslims win the Hereafter and atheists loose their chance.
Logically, any sane person would choose what is best for him in the long run. So what do you choose? Do you want to live your life being skeptical about the hereafter and ultimately loose it, or are you ready to take no chances and prepare yourself for it?
Not at all. You are being too judgmental in your post. Islam does not prevent understanding and using one's faculties to reason. What I am saying is from the faith point of view. Once we have faith in Allah, we place absolute trust on Him.
It is perfectly allowed to question and find reasons. Ibrahim :as:, even though he was one of the great Messengers, questioned Allah :swt: on how He raises the dead once again. Allah :swt: says:
And when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [ Allah ] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [ Allah ] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself. Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise." [2:260]
Several Muslim scholars have written books on reasoning and understanding. See for example, Hujjatullahi AlBaalighah by Shah Waliullah Dehlawi.
I would say your vision is myopic, not Muslims'. Muslims (practicing ones) are the most far-sighted people because we prepare for we need in the Hereafter.
Whereas atheists like you are the most myopic people, because they say "You live only once".
If atheists are right and Muslims are wrong, then nobody is at loss. Both of them live this life and die at the end.
But when Muslims are right and atheists are wrong, then Muslims win the Hereafter and atheists loose their chance.
Logically, any sane person would choose what is best for him in the long run. So what do you choose? Do you want to live your life being skeptical about the hereafter and ultimately loose it, or are you ready to take no chances and prepare yourself for it?
Re: Straight Answers to the Controversial Questions about Islam
:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)
Yes, I'd say that you're perfectly entitled to hold that view.
As to the matter of perspective, well, there are some things in Islam that simply do not and probably will not make sense to an outsider looking inside from still the outsider's perspective.
For example, and I kid you not, when I was an atheist, I had a friend who was Muslim, and I once asked her when I was more comfortable with her about why she wore the headscarf. I don't know what I expected to hear, but to hear her say "it makes me a better person" was not it. My reaction, although I was polite enough not to say it out loud, was, "A piece of cloth on your head makes you a better person?! What?!" I thought I'd never heard anything as preposterous in my life. I just could not wrap my mind around a thing like that.
Well, fast forward many years later when I did decide out of my own free will to start wearing the hijab as a Muslim woman, I for the first time realized what she'd meant. One of the things that hijab does (whether you want it to or not) is have it become the first thing about you that people notice, not your smile, not your eyes, not the clothes on your body, but this thing on your head. You cannot lead with your femininity as I was previously used to doing as an ex-sorority girl or the girly girl whose first thought in the morning was about how to look fashionable, beautiful, and desirable. So, whether I wanted to or not, I had to learn to lead not by things that are perfectly normalized and accepted in this culture or even now changing globalized society but to actually be forced to stop and think about how I was presenting myself to the world and then actually present myself as the person I am inside. So, did it make me a better person? Yes, oddly enough. Before I wore the hijab, I would never have thought twice about showing my frustration to the person who got my food order wrong. After I started wearing the hijab, it forced me to slow down and realize that I am essentially now a person that now represents Islam to both non-Muslims and nonpracticing Muslims, and I will have to do justice to it. So, even if I was having a really bad day, I'd still zip my mouth and smile and choose a better alternative response not to be fake obviously but because I realized that I could not afford to sweat the small stuff and that I was put on this mission (which by the way I had never desired) to represent Islam. Wearing hijab relaxed me as a person and simultaneously I became an individual not defined by her sex, which I felt was empowering because I had been so used to doing the opposite.
So, while I had a perfectly skeptical reaction to the hijab and her answer as an atheist, I now understand her words as a Muslim woman, something that could never have happened earlier in my life because I simply could not see myself accepting her answer because I had not been in her shoes and I didn't ever think I'd be. It's just not something you can automatically understand; you have to experience some things on your own as I'd realized.
Also, I'd like to point out that Islam actively seeks to foster an Islamic culture, which is why things will also seem strange because you cannot really understand a culture and its inner workings until you're either immersed in it or trying to see the logic and reasoning of things on Islam's own terms. For example, there is an African tribal culture that forces men to physically fight one another to win a lady's hand in marriage. From one aspect, this can be seen as barbaric. However, from another aspect, it can be seen as a means for the men to prove their strength and virility as a protective mate for the woman.
Also, this discussion might cause a little chagrin, but I myself cannot really understand why some African tribes consider being topless for a woman everyday to be perfectly normal and don't consider breasts a beautiful protrusion of a woman's femininity because both Western standards and Eastern standards do consider them a to-be-concealed mark of beauty. You'll not have these men there going crazy at the sight of breasts because it's not the part of womanhood that is considered the most attractive. There are so many things about beauty, about marriage, about love, about what is right and wrong that we are socially conditioned to accept and essentially culturally-influenced that we don't even think twice about those things because we've never been put in a position of having to do so.
Well, I think if Islam challenges you and forces you to think, then that's not a bad thing because Islam does have that power to do so. It challenged me when I was an atheist, and if it hadn't, I don't think I would be a Muslim today. Do I like the fact that you're regarding Islam as "obviously false, unhelpful and/or dangerous"? Of course not. That said, I respect you trying to understand Islam, and maybe you'll one day be a Muslim like me (hey, stranger things have happened like Donald Trump becoming the GOP's presidential nominee!) or maybe you won't. But at the end of the day, does that matter so much as you being able to respect what you cannot understand at this moment in time?
:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)
Yes, I'd say that you're perfectly entitled to hold that view.
As to the matter of perspective, well, there are some things in Islam that simply do not and probably will not make sense to an outsider looking inside from still the outsider's perspective.
For example, and I kid you not, when I was an atheist, I had a friend who was Muslim, and I once asked her when I was more comfortable with her about why she wore the headscarf. I don't know what I expected to hear, but to hear her say "it makes me a better person" was not it. My reaction, although I was polite enough not to say it out loud, was, "A piece of cloth on your head makes you a better person?! What?!" I thought I'd never heard anything as preposterous in my life. I just could not wrap my mind around a thing like that.
Well, fast forward many years later when I did decide out of my own free will to start wearing the hijab as a Muslim woman, I for the first time realized what she'd meant. One of the things that hijab does (whether you want it to or not) is have it become the first thing about you that people notice, not your smile, not your eyes, not the clothes on your body, but this thing on your head. You cannot lead with your femininity as I was previously used to doing as an ex-sorority girl or the girly girl whose first thought in the morning was about how to look fashionable, beautiful, and desirable. So, whether I wanted to or not, I had to learn to lead not by things that are perfectly normalized and accepted in this culture or even now changing globalized society but to actually be forced to stop and think about how I was presenting myself to the world and then actually present myself as the person I am inside. So, did it make me a better person? Yes, oddly enough. Before I wore the hijab, I would never have thought twice about showing my frustration to the person who got my food order wrong. After I started wearing the hijab, it forced me to slow down and realize that I am essentially now a person that now represents Islam to both non-Muslims and nonpracticing Muslims, and I will have to do justice to it. So, even if I was having a really bad day, I'd still zip my mouth and smile and choose a better alternative response not to be fake obviously but because I realized that I could not afford to sweat the small stuff and that I was put on this mission (which by the way I had never desired) to represent Islam. Wearing hijab relaxed me as a person and simultaneously I became an individual not defined by her sex, which I felt was empowering because I had been so used to doing the opposite.
So, while I had a perfectly skeptical reaction to the hijab and her answer as an atheist, I now understand her words as a Muslim woman, something that could never have happened earlier in my life because I simply could not see myself accepting her answer because I had not been in her shoes and I didn't ever think I'd be. It's just not something you can automatically understand; you have to experience some things on your own as I'd realized.
Also, I'd like to point out that Islam actively seeks to foster an Islamic culture, which is why things will also seem strange because you cannot really understand a culture and its inner workings until you're either immersed in it or trying to see the logic and reasoning of things on Islam's own terms. For example, there is an African tribal culture that forces men to physically fight one another to win a lady's hand in marriage. From one aspect, this can be seen as barbaric. However, from another aspect, it can be seen as a means for the men to prove their strength and virility as a protective mate for the woman.
Also, this discussion might cause a little chagrin, but I myself cannot really understand why some African tribes consider being topless for a woman everyday to be perfectly normal and don't consider breasts a beautiful protrusion of a woman's femininity because both Western standards and Eastern standards do consider them a to-be-concealed mark of beauty. You'll not have these men there going crazy at the sight of breasts because it's not the part of womanhood that is considered the most attractive. There are so many things about beauty, about marriage, about love, about what is right and wrong that we are socially conditioned to accept and essentially culturally-influenced that we don't even think twice about those things because we've never been put in a position of having to do so.
Well, I think if Islam challenges you and forces you to think, then that's not a bad thing because Islam does have that power to do so. It challenged me when I was an atheist, and if it hadn't, I don't think I would be a Muslim today. Do I like the fact that you're regarding Islam as "obviously false, unhelpful and/or dangerous"? Of course not. That said, I respect you trying to understand Islam, and maybe you'll one day be a Muslim like me (hey, stranger things have happened like Donald Trump becoming the GOP's presidential nominee!) or maybe you won't. But at the end of the day, does that matter so much as you being able to respect what you cannot understand at this moment in time?
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