Is celebrating Thanksgiving haram?

[islamirama]

Destroying Native's way of life and stealing their land since white devil stepped foot on this continent, not much has changed after 500 years....

 

[cooterhein]

Destroying Native's way of life and stealing their land since white devil stepped foot on this continent, not much has changed after 500 years....

Those "white devils" are also principally responsible for all, or nearly all, of the accomplishments of civilizational importance that laid the foundation for Western civilization and built it into what it is now. And that very Western civilization is something that most of these English-speaking members of this forum are now enjoying firsthand. Yes of course there are plenty of terrible things within their history, but the overall accomplishment is pretty great. I mean, Western civilization is quite obviously the best civilization on the planet. Overall, I mean. Of course you can cherry-pick some truly awful things from white-people history- and I could easily do that with the history of Islam, although the mods obviously won't allow one bit of that but I'm sure you can imagine something in the abstract....you, on the other hand, will probably be encouraged to do as much as you like at the expense of white people, or Christians, or Jews, or whoever else it is that you hate.

The point is, although white people were completely awful to Native Americans over the course of several centuries, white people have also done lots of great things. The most significant of which involve creating this thing called Western civilization. And it really is the best civilization on the planet. It's nowhere close to perfect, and there are plenty of things that need to be improved, but it is clearly the best civilization, as of right now, at this point in time. That's perfectly obvious to me, at least.

With that in mind, it doesn't make all that much sense to call them "white devils." It would probably be better to call them white people, or if you're being more descriptive, white people who have done some truly awful things, along with some great things in the course of building a rather impressive civilization.

Pursuing this topic in any further detail will most assuredly take us waaaay off topic, so let's keep it really simple. For the reasons stated here, and because you know some things about my personality by now, it would be a good idea for you to stay away from the "white devil" terminology. Make a mental note, and that will be all.

now back on topic.

 

[*charisma*]

Those "white devils" are also principally responsible for all, or nearly all, of the accomplishments of civilizational importance that laid the foundation for Western civilization and built it into what it is now. And that very Western civilization is something that most of these English-speaking members of this forum are now enjoying firsthand.

No, Black slaves are responsible for that. Immigrants are. The people that physically build the US are not white. The people that fought for their rights for America to be the way it is are not white. The people that have beautified any part of the US are not white. The reason why the US is so "great" is because it embodies different types of cultures and ethnicities which are what make the US unique. The only thing that the US ranks #1 in is power and influence. I also highly doubt you've ever traveled anywhere else in the world to really compare it to other places. It's not the greatest country in the world loool. If you think so, well..it means you haven't ever been anywhere else. It has never outranked any country in anything that actually matters such as education, equality, environmental progression, etc. White supremacy is a backwards ideology.

The point is, although white people were completely awful to Native Americans over the course of several centuries,

They still are quite awful. How are you American and not know that?

With that in mind, it doesn't make all that much sense to call them "white devils." It would probably be better to call them white people, or if you're being more descriptive, white people who have done some truly awful things, along with some great things in the course of building a rather impressive civilization.

Are you kidding me? It makes perfect sense to call them white devils ;D "Hey everyone! Let's wash our hands with the blood of innocents on a daily basis ;D If anyone has something to say we'll lynch them or infect them with small pox cuz we're the best civilization on the planet!! we know it's bad but it's ok cuz we're the best civilization!! LOOK at the history, NO NO not the REAL history, the one we put out, the one we've rewritten cuz we're the best civilization in the world!" That's exactly how you sound right now. But hey it's you're opinion, it's just sad that you don't get out more.

 

[noraina]

The biggest lie of the modern age is that Western civilisation is somehow responsible for all of the great accomplishments in the history of mankind, and that somehow anyone of colour or a different ethnicity is forever indebted to them because without them they would still be squandering in the depths of ignorance and poverty without their discoveries.

Not.

While the West has certainly achieved wonderful things for the benefit of mankind, and which we can all enjoy alhamdulillah, it isn't anything which would make it the 'greatest' civilisation on Earth. Every single civilisation contributed something great to humanity and so *gasp* Western civilisation isn't unique in that respect.

In fact, most of us can agree that all civilizations have built upon the knowledge of those before them. Look at maths for example, it was from the contributions of Indian and Arab academics that this knowledge reached the West at all.

And while I disagree with labelling an entire ethnicity as 'devils' (I know some pretty decent Americans myself) I'll certainly say that in the same way terrorists who kill innocent people are called monsters, then those people who mercilessly massacred the natives in America were most certainly devils.

 

[islamirama]

Those "white devils" are also principally responsible for all, or nearly all, of the accomplishments of civilizational importance that laid the foundation for Western civilization and built it into what it is now.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know you were a comedian buddy, do share some more jokes if you have any!

Only thing the "white devils" laid the foundation for was their own demise. Remember the Dark Ages? that's when the white devils burned everything and sent their own societies into chaos, ignorant and mayhem. The Islamic empire of that time saved the knowledge of the previous civilizations by translating it into arabic and then built on that knowledge to advance it further. Western historians themselves admit had it NOT been for the Islamic golden age the western civilization would NEVER have had their Renaissance and they would STILL be in their dark stone ages.

As for modern technology, everything is built upon the Muslims discoveries, from medicine to science to technology. The coffee you have in the morning, the computer you use to come on this forum, the math you do to count your money, they all were made possible because of Muslim achievements. Here, educate yourself a little on this: http://www.1001inventions.com/

Regarding our current modern era. It is the people of color that are making advancements in all fields. Whites are using their white privilege to get into management and other easy jobs while the people of color are the ones becoming engineers, scientists, doctors, researchers, etc. Yes, yes there few white folks here and there who contributing somewhat. But your "great" western nations today are being supported and advanced by the colored people working there.

Do you want to know what contribution the white devils have made to humanity?

- 3.5 million #GladiatorialGames
- 3.5 million #HundredYearsWar
- 4 million #Napoleonic Wars
- 50 million #RomanCatholicChurch
- 1 million+ #Crusades
- 1 million+ Witch hunts
- 7 million #FallofRome
- 5 million Time of Troubles (#Russia 1598-1613)
- 7.5 million Thirty Years War (#Germany 1618-1648)
- 5 million #spanishInquisition

- 9 million #RussianCivilWar (1918-22
- 400,000 #BenitoMussolini
- 11 million #Hitler
- 20 million #JosephStalin
- 17 million #WWI
- 55 million #WWII

- 150 million #AmericanNatives
- 40 million #AfricanSlavesTrade To #newWorld
- 40 million #australia #aboriginals
- 500,000 #Bosnia & #Kosovo
- 200,000 #hiroshima and #nagashaki
- 2 million #Vietnam

- 1.8 Billion #IndiaSubcontinent by #british

- 5 million #Algerians by #french
- 560,000 #iraq children by #US #sanctions
- 12 million #Iraq (in total 4% of population through war /sanctions)
- 2 million #Afganistan
- 4 million #drones attack

- millions through proxy wars, dictators & colored revolutions

That's over 2 billion 458 million and 160,000 deaths that we know of. And these white devils are currently planning to genocide human race from 7 billion to a couple million that can be controlled and managed. That is the true face of the white devils and the legacy of their so called "achievements" and contributions to humanity.