Who does one support in Syria?

[TDWT]

I have been wondering, who does one support in Syria? I know not Assad since his regime is whack but who? I figured it was the free syrian army or something?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The common people that just want to live in peace.

 

[Simple_Person]

Somebody once told me to know who you support you must know who is financing them. So in case of rebels and you name it..from Turkey to Us to Saudi and gulf states. Do even one of these have Islamic principles in thought?...Nope..only power..greed..control..nationalism..pride.

So in the modern day we are GIVEN two choices. This is happening everywhere. Are you with us or are you with them?. And "them" they also will ask you are you with us or are you with them? The people who don't take a moment to ponder about this question will choose one of the two. While there is also a third answer...I am not for either one of you.

Just recently I noticed that in western countries they are you could say begging you to vote during elections. I found it rather strange. The political parties didn't care for a bit that you will not even vote for them but as long as you just vote. Which I was pondering about of why is this?. I mean ..these political parties are liars and deceivers so how come they beg me to vote not even caring to vote for them?. I realized that by not voting their whole scam collapses. So the best thing to do is not to vote..which is how you as an individual and society will "win" the game.

As during election results the amount of people who did not vote will also be visible for the masses to see. When people see every election the amount of people that did not vote has risen again they start asking questions. Asking questions is NOT good for liars and deceivers as their whole scam will become transparent.

 

[ardianto]

I have been wondering, who does one support in Syria? I know not Assad since his regime is whack but who? I figured it was the free syrian army or something?

Don't stand with those who hold weapon,but stand with those who try to save humanity.

 

[al-Andalusi]

There's really no one I can support in this conflict

I can't support Assad. Ba'athism is just wrong, and nothing more than National Socialism in disguise

IS and Al-Nusra are two of the same kind of terrorist monster

FSA and Rojava are both Nationalistic , and thus I cannot side with either of them.

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you TDWT;

Too many people have suffered the loss of family and friends, their homes, jobs, education for their children, and so they have the right to be angry. But if you retaliate in anger, a death for a death, destroying property for property, etc, then more people suffer. Civil wars can last for years.

The solution is not in human nature, the real and lasting solution is prayer, patience, forgiveness and mercy.

In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God,

Eric

 

[aaj]

Don't stand with those who hold weapon,but stand with those who try to save humanity.

Are you trying to say jihad is not part of Islam? That's the only way to save Muslims these days, look at burma, kashmir, falestine, syria, etc.. Do you think throwing rose petals at the butchers will save humanity?


I agree with the said statement, look who is financing them and you will know who you can root for.

 

[Serinity]

Idk who to support either. USA I can't, ISIS, I can't cuz they are extremists, and are intolerant. Any other sect, just no, go away.. I don't want to join any "group" or organisation.

my religion is Islam, and I do what it tells me... So I will just help the refugees........ Cuz what else? If I go in I don't even KNOW who I am fighting, why am I fighting, and why should I fight? And going in and supporting anyone, without knowledge is a recipe for chaos.

I want to kill Assad, and those who torture innocents. But I have no power to do that. So I guess, read Qur'aan GAIN taqwaa do NOT fear anyone, only Allah should be feared.

Don't fear democracy, or the people.

Allahu alam.

 

[piXie]

Don't stand with those who hold weapon,but stand with those who try to save humanity.

The reality is that Muslims who make and like comments like these are pacifist cowards and afraid of defending their religion and brothers and sisters. They have lost their sense of honor and dignity and just want to stand with candles and roses.

 

[sister herb]

The reality is that nowadays those whose hold weapons in civil war style conflicts, only increase suffering. We should find alternative ways to solve the conflicts, not throw the fuel to the flames.

If I have to choose - I will choose the candles and roses.

By the way, I don´t think the pacifists are cowards. They might be much braver persons than those whose carry weapons.

 

[ardianto]

The reality is that Muslims who make and like comments like these are pacifist cowards and afraid of defending their religion and brothers and sisters. They have lost their sense of honor and dignity and just want to stand with candles and roses.

Thank you very much, sis.

But I do not stand with candles and roses. I have given my candles for people who suffer from cold in the dark. I have given my roses for children who lost their parents to make them understand that they should not lose their hopes because there are always people who love them.

You don't know my life story, you don't know what I have ever experienced, you don't know what I have ever done. So you will not understand why I decide to not support any armed group in Syria, but support those who try to save the war victims.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I have held a weapon for over 23 years and have seen the worst of what war is. Holding a weapon and the ugly injustice of war is 80% of what lead me to Islam. As I stated before, the common people that want to live in peace are the ones I will support.

The USA does not care about peace.

Assad does not care about peace.

Russia does not care about peace.

The Zionists do not care about peace.

ISIS does not care about peace.

 

[aaj]

The command to wage jihad for the sake of Allaah, and the warning against neglecting jihad, appear in many verses of the Qur’aan and ahaadeeth.


If the Muslims neglect jihad for the sake of Allaah, and prefer a life of ease, and focus only on this world, they will face humiliation and scorn, and all their affairs will be corrupted. They expose themselves to the wrath and anger of Allaah, and they expose Islam to loss and defeat at the hands of kufr. Hence neglecting jihad is a major sin.

https://islamqa.info/en/46807

The ummah is in the state it is because Muslims want to pass around candles and roses, while muslimahs are being brutally gang raped and men and boys tortured and chopped to pieces.

Would Muslims still be passing candles and roses around if it was their family?

Remember, you are not a true believer until you love for your brother/sister what you love for yourself.

Ummah needs defenders that come to protect her honor and blood, not add salt to the wounds.

 

[sister herb]

Taking part to jihad is one thing and taking part to the civil war might not be the same thing at all. This discussion goes somewhere very far if we aren´t careful but start to mix them without thinking carefully. Yes, there are those armies whose say they fight for the sake of Allah but still do horrible crimes against civilians. Should we support them only because they use this magic word "jihad" while butchering innocents?

Also here are more than one way to love your sisters and brothers.

But if you know better, which one of those armies Muslims should support?

 

[Serinity]

It is easy to say "I fight for Allah" but how??

I mean.. If I went to Syria RIGHT NOW. Who would I fight? Or would I just be another ant in the storm, dying while not having changed a thing? I know Assad is to be killed. Change has rarely come with purely pacifistic ways. Most protests ended in violence.

We don't support USA, Russia, Israel, or Assad, nor do we support ISIS because they are too cruel and do not help the sisters and brothers tortured by the Kuffar. All the say is "Jihad, Jihad, Jihad" but where is the Jihad if not for the sake of Allah? Why don't they beat those US soldiers who kill innocents?

Why haven't they killed Assad?

Anywayzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Allahu alam.

 

[aaj]

Just because someone is yelling "jihad" doesn't mean they are right.

We are given brains for a reason, so how about we use them?

Follow the money, whose financing who? you fill find the fakes and the ones fighting for the people.

And no one is suggesting to get up and go fight over there either. Intentions go a long way.

And there are many forms of Jihad. Passing candles and roses is not one of them though.

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever dies without having gone out for jihaad or having thought of doing so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy.’” (Saheeh Muslim, 3533).


Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “What is meant is that the one who does this is behaving, in this regard, like the hypocrites who stay behind and do not go out for jihaad, because not engaging in jihaad is one of the branches of hypocrisy. This hadeeth also indicates that the one who intended to do an act of worship but died before he could do it is not to be condemned to the same extent as one who died without any such intention.”

https://islamqa.info/en/2606

 

[Simple_Person]

Are you trying to say jihad is not part of Islam? That's the only way to save Muslims these days, look at burma, kashmir, falestine, syria, etc.. Do you think throwing rose petals at the butchers will save humanity?


I agree with the said statement, look who is financing them and you will know who you can root for.

To apply jihad one must first get theit own stuff together.

Look at Salahuddin Al-Ayubi he first got the Muslim stuff together before making March towards Jerusalem. Look now besides Rasullah (saws) and the shahaba he is being admired by Muslims and his own enemies. So to wage jihad the Muslims should first look at themselves then wage jihad. Everybody is following a greedy nationalistic so called Islamic leader.

 

[Simple_Person]

What I see here are two kind of groups a group is being called pacifists while just because they say ..right now there is no jihad to apply as if you mix your self in it ..you will be fighting for the opressors. And this group is right. Look at ANY so call3d "jihad"group..please do tell me which group is fighting for Allah?...none..because every one of those groups is being financed by the opressors one way or the other.

I have also read ..our sisters being gang raped. Look at many of our own Muslim sisters the whole corrupt feminism has risen to their brain. From their dress to walking alone outside. There is a reason why a mahram should accompany you and your havE tO dress how your mus drss. However we brothers also have lost our own dignity by not treating our own women according to Islam. Some sisters would arrogantly disobey wanting to be accompanied by a male mahram...when she becomes a victim..don't blame those sick people...blame your self for it. Islam and it's rulings by majority are clear and if sick stuff happens because we arrogantly don't want to follow cLear Islamic rules..well then you are responsible for your own actions. Or if there are sisters who want to go according to the rules..we brothers are so lazy to not accompany our own wife to the shop. How can we shout about the lesser jihad while our major jihad in us stinks from all sides. We need to clean our own act as brothers and as sisters before we can help somebody else. Even in Islam..a person must first think about their own Islam before doing da'wah to his/her family.

 

[aaj]

To apply jihad one must first get theit own stuff together.

You do not fully comprehend the concept of Jihad if you think it takes place only in the battle field.

What I see here are two kind of groups a group is being called pacifists while just because they say ..right now there is no jihad to apply as if you mix your self in it ..you will be fighting for the opressors. And this group is right. Look at ANY so call3d "jihad"group..please do tell me which group is fighting for Allah?...none..because every one of those groups is being financed by the opressors one way or the other.

While there are many fakes out there, there are also some real fighters that are fighting for the sake of Allah. It is not your or any one's place to label them all as the same, this is exactly what the west wants you to do.

I have also read ..our sisters being gang raped. Look at many of our own Muslim sisters the whole corrupt feminism has risen to their brain. From their dress to walking alone outside. There is a reason why a mahram should accompany you and your havE tO dress how your mus drss. However we brothers also have lost our own dignity by not treating our own women according to Islam. Some sisters would arrogantly disobey wanting to be accompanied by a male mahram...when she becomes a victim..don't blame those sick people...blame your self for it. Islam and it's rulings by majority are clear and if sick stuff happens because we arrogantly don't want to follow cLear Islamic rules..well then you are responsible for your own actions. Or if there are sisters who want to go according to the rules..we brothers are so lazy to not accompany our own wife to the shop.

You do not sit home trying to be the perfect Muslim before you decide to get up and help save your brothers and sisters. If no one stands up against oppression when jihad becomes obligatory then the sin goes on the whole community.

How can we shout about the lesser jihad while our major jihad in us stinks from all sides.

That is a fake, fabricated hadith that everyone loves to quote who love their cozy life at home.

https://www.islamicboard.com/miscel...lesser-vs-jihaad-post1323034.html#post1323034
https://islamqa.info/en/10455

 

[Simple_Person]

You do not fully comprehend the concept of Jihad if you think it takes place only in the battle field.



While there are many fakes out there, there are also some real fighters that are fighting for the sake of Allah. It is not your or any one's place to label them all as the same, this is exactly what the west wants you to do.



You do not sit home trying to be the perfect Muslim before you decide to get up and help save your brothers and sisters. If no one stands up against oppression when jihad becomes obligatory then the sin goes on the whole community.



That is a fake, fabricated hadith that everyone loves to quote who love their cozy life at home.

https://www.islamicboard.com/miscel...lesser-vs-jihaad-post1323034.html#post1323034
https://islamqa.info/en/10455

Who said doing nothing? The least we can do is giving sadaqa to Islamic groups in Syria for example that are there for humanitarian reason. Off course checking things around if they are legit. Second thing one could do is speak out out and educate yourself about the matter. All I see here are people shouting against Assad which is logical but being pro nationalistic FSA =_=!.

Within those groups there are honest Muslims with intend of fighting against opressing. .but when your commander commands you to do something that goes against Islam to fulfill the desires of the people who are financing your weapons and bullets...would you do it or not?. So indeed is much harder than it looks like but you make it as if we who are saying such things are cowards and value our lives in this dunya more than the akhira.