IB Kitchen Club

[Simple_Person]

ohh no so we're going to have to start with something simpler What types of baking supplies do you have? (ie. scale, measuring cups, whisk, baking pans, etc..)

have you ever made pancakes?

Pancakes..well i only poured it in the pan ..that was like 16 years ago. But i never made the mix. The pancakes later on i just bought at the store..no taste..but still alhamdulillah. Well i have a measuring cup to use for making bread...i can buy a whisk..no baking pans with those certain kind of distinct shapes. Do i need those?

That literally means "tarshi spices"

I know XD ...but i do not know how to communicate with my sister or mother. They do not get those things.. in the past sub'han'Allah i was like for almost 30 minutes trying to explain "Ka'bah". I said "kaba" because i do not speak Arabic and she said..what is "kaba?".. i said that cube in Mecca..we direct our prayer to (Qibla)..she STILL did not get it. I said the first house of worship build by Adam(as) and rebuild by Ibrahim (as)..

She STILL did not get it.. and my mother also (she is illiterate) did not get it. I was getting SOO ANNOYED by it, i grabbed my phone and google it to show them a picture of the ka'bah.

You never know what was their reply =_=!..."ooh you mean "ka'bah" and Kurds call it "black stone" she said and also my mother said this is called the black stone. When i heard that i wanted to pull out my hair because of frustration. I then google the black stone on the side of the ka'bah and said THIS is the black stone, the cube it self is called the ka'bah. That being 45 minutes later on.

These days, i just do not argue anymore, because it is ONLY frustration upon frustration and in the end they brand me as if i do not know what i am talking about, like in the past facebook did not work (blocked by the government) and my mother a few hours later was saying does internet work again? I said huh what do you mean? She said, that i said internet did not work..i said i never said such a thing, then she branded me as if i forgot it and did not know what i was talking about..later on i said you mean facebook? but for her facebook internet..all the same XD. So sister please forgive them and forgive me for not wanting to further dig in to this. Maybe you could print the picture of Tursi and try to explain it to those shops. I am not sure if you currently still live in Saudi, if so, there are those small shops full of spices MAYBE they can help you with it.

Women from the Middle East are a DISASTER when it comes to teach somebody how to make certain dish. Just today was talking and confirming what needs to be put in lentils soup, I HAD to bring it up to add salt to it or not..or else they would never have said that i need to add salt to it XD. VERY VERY VERY BAD TEACHER!!. i for bigger part of my life grew up in the west and things are done in steps and tried to explain in as many details as possible. Like reading a recipe exaclty x amount of tea spoons, or x amount of certain liquid...keep it on the fire for x amount of time..look at the color should look like x..these things as a guidance how to properly make certain dish.

 

[*charisma*]

I know XD ...but i do not know how to communicate with my sister or mother. They do not get those things.. in the past sub'han'Allah i was like for almost 30 minutes trying to explain "Ka'bah". I said "kaba" because i do not speak Arabic and she said..what is "kaba?".. i said that cube in Mecca..we direct our prayer to (Qibla)..she STILL did not get it. I said the first house of worship build by Adam(as) and rebuild by Ibrahim (as)..

She STILL did not get it.. and my mother also (she is illiterate) did not get it. I was getting SOO ANNOYED by it, i grabbed my phone and google it to show them a picture of the ka'bah.

You never know what was their reply =_=!..."ooh you mean "ka'bah" and Kurds call it "black stone" she said and also my mother said this is called the black stone. When i heard that i wanted to pull out my hair because of frustration. I then google the black stone on the side of the ka'bah and said THIS is the black stone, the cube it self is called the ka'bah. That being 45 minutes later on.

These days, i just do not argue anymore, because it is ONLY frustration upon frustration and in the end they brand me as if i do not know what i am talking about, like in the past facebook did not work (blocked by the government) and my mother a few hours later was saying does internet work again? I said huh what do you mean? She said, that i said internet did not work..i said i never said such a thing, then she branded me as if i forgot it and did not know what i was talking about..later on i said you mean facebook? but for her facebook internet..all the same XD. So sister please forgive them and forgive me for not wanting to further dig in to this. Maybe you could print the picture of Tursi and try to explain it to those shops. I am not sure if you currently still live in Saudi, if so, there are those small shops full of spices MAYBE they can help you with it.

looooooool awww that's soo cute!! ;D You getting frustrated?? you should be cracking up. Subhanallah. I'd be laughing so hard lool

Don't worry about the tursi spices, I'll figure it out inshallah The spice shops here should have all the spices I need.

Women from the Middle East are a DISASTER when it comes to teach somebody how to make certain dish. Just today was talking and confirming what needs to be put in lentils soup, I HAD to bring it up to add salt to it or not..or else they would never have said that i need to add salt to it XD. VERY VERY VERY BAD TEACHER!!. i for bigger part of my life grew up in the west and things are done in steps and tried to explain in as many details as possible. Like reading a recipe exaclty x amount of tea spoons, or x amount of certain liquid...keep it on the fire for x amount of time..look at the color should look like x..these things as a guidance how to properly make certain dish.

ok that's good, so you have measuring things ;D do you have baking soda (bicarbonate) and baking powder? sugar, eggs, regular flour, etc.

 

[Umm♥Layth]

Not the best photo, but its what I'm having right now. I made some very simple oatmeal cookies with some cinnamon tea:statisfie

Ingredients for the cookies were:
3/4C Rolled oats
1 Banana
1/4 C Raisins
1 Tbsp Sucanat
1/4 tsp salt
1 Tbsp Milk (I used cashew "milk")
I added some anise seeds for extra flavor. They are chewy, not crunchy and just about fat free and very low cal. My daughter has been harassing me to make cookies with her lol, she's eager to learn new recipes so I figured this was a good start to baking.

 

[sister herb]

Sweet rhubarb soup

6 stems of rhubarb, about 700 g
8 dl of water
2 dl sugar
4 tbsp potato flour

Rinse the rhubarb and cut them into pieces.
Boil water and sugar and add rhubarb. Boil until rhubarb soften.
Mix the potato flour with a small amount of water and add to the kettle in a thin strip with gently stirring. Let it boil fast.
Pour the soup into the bowl to cool and sprinkle some sugar on the surface.
Serve with milk or vanilla sauce.

 

[Indefinable]

Pancakes..well i only poured it in the pan ..that was like 16 years ago. But i never made the mix. The pancakes later on i just bought at the store..no taste..but still alhamdulillah. Well i have a measuring cup to use for making bread...i can buy a whisk..no baking pans with those certain kind of distinct shapes. Do i need those?



I know XD ...but i do not know how to communicate with my sister or mother. They do not get those things.. in the past sub'han'Allah i was like for almost 30 minutes trying to explain "Ka'bah". I said "kaba" because i do not speak Arabic and she said..what is "kaba?".. i said that cube in Mecca..we direct our prayer to (Qibla)..she STILL did not get it. I said the first house of worship build by Adam(as) and rebuild by Ibrahim (as)..

She STILL did not get it.. and my mother also (she is illiterate) did not get it. I was getting SOO ANNOYED by it, i grabbed my phone and google it to show them a picture of the ka'bah.

You never know what was their reply =_=!..."ooh you mean "ka'bah" and Kurds call it "black stone" she said and also my mother said this is called the black stone. When i heard that i wanted to pull out my hair because of frustration. I then google the black stone on the side of the ka'bah and said THIS is the black stone, the cube it self is called the ka'bah. That being 45 minutes later on.

These days, i just do not argue anymore, because it is ONLY frustration upon frustration and in the end they brand me as if i do not know what i am talking about, like in the past facebook did not work (blocked by the government) and my mother a few hours later was saying does internet work again? I said huh what do you mean? She said, that i said internet did not work..i said i never said such a thing, then she branded me as if i forgot it and did not know what i was talking about..later on i said you mean facebook? but for her facebook internet..all the same XD. So sister please forgive them and forgive me for not wanting to further dig in to this. Maybe you could print the picture of Tursi and try to explain it to those shops. I am not sure if you currently still live in Saudi, if so, there are those small shops full of spices MAYBE they can help you with it.

Women from the Middle East are a DISASTER when it comes to teach somebody how to make certain dish. Just today was talking and confirming what needs to be put in lentils soup, I HAD to bring it up to add salt to it or not..or else they would never have said that i need to add salt to it XD. VERY VERY VERY BAD TEACHER!!. i for bigger part of my life grew up in the west and things are done in steps and tried to explain in as many details as possible. Like reading a recipe exaclty x amount of tea spoons, or x amount of certain liquid...keep it on the fire for x amount of time..look at the color should look like x..these things as a guidance how to properly make certain dish.

Hmm.

 

[Life_Is_Short]

Rice pudding.

Really easy and really delicious!

Bring 1 1/2 cups water to a boil in a saucepan; stir rice into boiling water. Reduce heat to low, cover, and simmer for 20 minutes.
In a clean saucepan, combine 1 1/2 cups cooked rice, 1 1/2 cups milk, sugar, cardamom and cinnamon to taste. Cook over medium heat until thick and creamy, 15 to 20 minutes.
Top with a topping of your choice, almonds, pistachio, coconut or dates.

 

[Simple_Person]

Sisters, do give me your experience when we talking about baking bread...here it goes what i so far am stuck at.

https://app.box.com/s/clveimuxi8f5cui2243uwb8j3su75w3k
https://app.box.com/s/it4kzic0mjj7a5sq221iaeujg27o06g9
https://app.box.com/s/ubpixkzanxqywh56c3m9r5jurz8s0xsj

I was done kneading the bread around 11:00, i let it rose for like 6 hours and started baking it around 17:00. I put the combi-microwave (hot air mode) reach 220 c and put the bread in the iron metal box...of course put some oil on the walls of it, so it would not stick to it.

When i put it in, i lowered the temperature to 180 c after 10 minutes and let it bake for like 30 minutes. However it did not rose beyond 6 cm when i was baking it. I have about 7 gr of yeast and 1 tea spoon of salt with about 330 ml of lukewarm water. With that it is around 500 gr of flower (whole wheat flour).

The outside is hard, i have heard from my neighbor that i need to cool it down and the outside will become soft itself.

btw, before kneading i first threw some flour in then some salt..mixed it and then put the yeast in it and mixed it. I heard in the past that salt kills the yeast so try to not put them directly on top of one another and then mix it, rather mix it and then throw the other one in and mix it again.

So sisters if you want some good deeds still during ramadan..PLEASE HELP me with old grandma wisdom and knowledge that i do not possess when talking about making own bread. I am planning to start making own bread and stop buying the poison from the store.

 

[*charisma*]

I was done kneading the bread around 11:00, i let it rose for like 6 hours and started baking it around 17:00. I put the combi-microwave (hot air mode) reach 220 c and put the bread in the iron metal box...of course put some oil on the walls of it, so it would not stick to it.

When i put it in, i lowered the temperature to 180 c after 10 minutes and let it bake for like 30 minutes. However it did not rose beyond 6 cm when i was baking it. I have about 7 gr of yeast and 1 tea spoon of salt with about 330 ml of lukewarm water. With that it is around 500 gr of flower (whole wheat flour).

Between the time you put it in the pan and in the oven, did you let it rise a second time??

 

[sister herb]

6 hours rising time sounds quite long. I use only 30 minutes time for rising. Also only 7 gr yeast is very little amount (with 330 ml water). I usually make bread with 500 ml water and 50 gr yeast. If you use dry yeast, then 25 gr is enough. That´s true that salt may reduces activity of yeast but it doesn´t "kill" it. But adding oil to dough too early may cause problems when dought is rising. When bread is ready, I usually let it cool under a kitchen towel. Then it becomes softer also outside.

As you have made a tin loaf bread, here is similar recipe:

http://www.dlc.fi/~marianna/gourmet/12_11.htm

Here is one my recipe:

500 ml lukewarm water
1 teaspoon salt
1 tablespoon honey or molasse
25 gr yeast (I usually use 50 gr)
1,2 desiliter (1200 ml) wheat flour
2 tablespoon vegetable oil

Mix with yeast, salt, and honey in hand-warm water. Add flour and vegetable oil. Stir but leave the dough soft. Cover the dough with a towel. Raise 30 minutes.

Grease the baking boxes (this amount of dough is enough for 2 breads). Press the dough to the baking box with oily hands. Let to rise 20 to 30 minutes.
Bake at 200 C, 45 to 60 minutes.
Allow to cool for a while, Undo and cool under a kitchen towel.

 

[Simple_Person]

Between the time you put it in the pan and in the oven, did you let it rise a second time??

OOh so i need to rise it twice? First just in a bowl and second time in the bread pan itself?

 

[Simple_Person]

6 hours rising time sounds quite long. I use only 30 minutes time for rising. Also only 7 gr yeast is very little amount (with 330 ml water). I usually make bread with 500 ml water and 50 gr yeast. If you use dry yeast, then 25 gr is enough. That´s true that salt may reduces activity of yeast but it doesn´t "kill" it. But adding oil to dough too early may cause problems when dought is rising. When bread is ready, I usually let it cool under a kitchen towel. Then it becomes softer also outside.

As you have made a tin loaf bread, here is similar recipe:

http://www.dlc.fi/~marianna/gourmet/12_11.htm

Here is one my recipe:

500 ml lukewarm water
1 teaspoon salt
1 tablespoon honey or molasse
25 gr yeast (I usually use 50 gr)
1,2 desiliter (1200 ml) wheat flour
2 tablespoon vegetable oil

Mix with yeast, salt, and honey in hand-warm water. Add flour and vegetable oil. Stir but leave the dough soft. Cover the dough with a towel. Raise 30 minutes.

Grease the baking boxes (this amount of dough is enough for 2 breads). Press the dough to the baking box with oily hands. Let to rise 20 to 30 minutes.
Bake at 200 C, 45 to 60 minutes.
Allow to cool for a while, Undo and cool under a kitchen towel.

Oke, in'sha'Allah soon my second attempt.

 

[sister herb]

OOh so i need to rise it twice? First just in a bowl and second time in the bread pan itself?

Yes. If you don´t rise it twice, result might be just what you have got.

When I was in the cooking school, I once forgot to rise my breads the second time and result was quite... rock-hard buns. The teacher wasn´t happy. :embarrass

 

[Simple_Person]

Yes. If you don´t rise it twice, result might be just what you have got.

When I was in the cooking school, I once forgot to rise my breads the second time and result was quite... rock-hard buns. The teacher wasn´t happy. :embarrass

On the yeast packaging it really says for 500 gr of flour..so 7 gr for 500 gr of flour..and you are saying 25 gr. I mean if you would have said 9 gr or even 10 gr, but 25 gr??..what is going on??

Btw, in the bread pan when i already smeared the sides with oil and let it rose once again. I can then just put it in the oven no more touching it?

Now i am SUPER confused and all..why are there conflicting guide lines? Are people trying to "prank" you for the sake of fun of it? I am a man of logic..just say use this this and this..

How come the package it self something COMPLETELY different then what you are saying? Are you saying they are lying?

I just want a bread this size..

https://app.box.com/s/iqi7snpw4nkcjox80k2kjbkqpgvila8d

https://app.box.com/s/itjspyqm01akhnnlv1sv69lpaeuf59u2

 

[*charisma*]

OOh so i need to rise it twice? First just in a bowl and second time in the bread pan itself?

Yes..it should rise above the pan rims. Also your dough looks dense, i feel like maybe you didnt add enough water, there wasnt enough yeast, and/or maybe the oven was too hot. Usually loaf breads take about 50 minutes. And they should be soft and fluffy inside while the outside is hard at first but gets soft after a few mins. Also if the water temperature is right, it will not need 6 hrs to rise.

 

[sister herb]

I don´t know what kind of yeast you have so better if you follow the orders of packet. Many products might be different in other countries. Sorry, I of course was thinking yeast products I use in here.

You can sprinkle the bread with a fork a few times before you bake it. It prevents bread ripening in the oven.

 

[Simple_Person]

I don´t know what kind of yeast you have so better if you follow the orders of packet. Many products might be different in other countries. Sorry, I of course was thinking yeast products I use in here.

You can sprinkle the bread with a fork a few times before you bake it. It prevents bread ripening in the oven.

Oke, this is how i am going to do in'sha'Allah.

500 gr of whole wheat flour, 330 ml of luke-warm water, 7 gr of yeast, 1 tea spoon of salt, rub the sides of the bread box with oil.

After kneading it the first time, let it rise for 30 minutes, then change it in to shape of the box and once again let it rise for 30 minutes in the bread box. In the mean time let the combi-micro wave on hot air mode reach temperature of 220 c. After that put the bread box in and leave it for 10 minutes on 210 c and bring it back to 180 c for 30 minutes.

If that is done, i will take it out in'sha'Allah and leave it to cool down under a kitchen towel for some time.

Did i miss something?

ps, does the height matter? Because i put it on a grate that is used i believe for other dishes. or just leave the bread box on the floor of the combi-microwave?

Also, isn't yeast..just yeast? (mine is dry yeast). I leave it in the refrigerator, until i need to use it.

 

[*charisma*]

On the yeast packaging it really says for 500 gr of flour..so 7 gr for 500 gr of flour..and you are saying 25 gr. I mean if you would have said 9 gr or even 10 gr, but 25 gr??..what is going on??

Btw, in the bread pan when i already smeared the sides with oil and let it rose once again. I can then just put it in the oven no more touching it?

Now i am SUPER confused and all..why are there conflicting guide lines? Are people trying to "prank" you for the sake of fun of it? I am a man of logic..just say use this this and this..

How come the package it self something COMPLETELY different then what you are saying? Are you saying they are lying?

I just want a bread this size..

https://app.box.com/s/iqi7snpw4nkcjox80k2kjbkqpgvila8d

https://app.box.com/s/itjspyqm01akhnnlv1sv69lpaeuf59u2

I actually think the yeast amount you used should work..but you did something wrong. You shouldnt need more but because it didnt rise that 2nd time it came out like that.

 

[*charisma*]

On the yeast packaging it really says for 500 gr of flour..so 7 gr for 500 gr of flour..and you are saying 25 gr. I mean if you would have said 9 gr or even 10 gr, but 25 gr??..what is going on??

Btw, in the bread pan when i already smeared the sides with oil and let it rose once again. I can then just put it in the oven no more touching it?

Now i am SUPER confused and all..why are there conflicting guide lines? Are people trying to "prank" you for the sake of fun of it? I am a man of logic..just say use this this and this..

How come the package it self something COMPLETELY different then what you are saying? Are you saying they are lying?

I just want a bread this size..

https://app.box.com/s/iqi7snpw4nkcjox80k2kjbkqpgvila8d

https://app.box.com/s/itjspyqm01akhnnlv1sv69lpaeuf59u2

I actually think the yeast amount you used should work..but you did something wrong. You shouldnt need more but because it didnt rise that 2nd time it came out like that.

 

[Simple_Person]

I actually think the yeast amount you used should work..but you did something wrong. You shouldnt need more but because it didnt rise that 2nd time it came out like that.

Wait what confuses me even more is this. In the past lets say the time of Rasullah(saws). How did they get their hands on yeast, as yeast is bacteria right? By giving it more time to rise, one can use less yeast right? Also did you ever made bread WITHOUT yeast?

 

[*charisma*]

Oke, this is how i am going to do in'sha'Allah.

500 gr of whole wheat flour, 330 ml of luke-warm water, 7 gr of yeast, 1 tea spoon of salt, rub the sides of the bread box with oil.

After kneading it the first time, let it rise for 30 minutes, then change it in to shape of the box and once again let it rise for 30 minutes in the bread box. In the mean time let the combi-micro wave on hot air mode reach temperature of 220 c. After that put the bread box in and leave it for 10 minutes on 210 c and bring it back to 180 c for 30 minutes.

If that is done, i will take it out in'sha'Allah and leave it to cool down under a kitchen towel for some time.

Did i miss something?

ps, does the height matter? Because i put it on a grate that is used i believe for other dishes. or just leave the bread box on the floor of the combi-microwave?

Also, isn't yeast..just yeast? (mine is dry yeast). I leave it in the refrigerator, until i need to use it.

Do not use luke warm. You need water that is warm for a bath like around 43C. And you have to let it rise until the dough doubles in size. Afterwards, take push out the air and form it into a ball shape that fits the pan and put it in the pan. Let it rise a 2nd time til its above the pan and place it in the preheated oven @180c. It shouldnt take long to rise a 2nd time.