US: Muslim students are getting their hijabs pulled of by teachers in classrooms

[Captain Howdy]

Is it not possible to live happily in a Muslim country as a respectful Hindu? You practice your own religion, and they will practice theirs.

Thats not happening uwu . A Sunni Muslim male in Saudi Arabia receives the full award as required by Sharia, a Jewish or Christian male receives 50 percent of the compensation a Muslim male would receive, and Hindus (and others such as Buddhists, and Sikhs) are only entitled to receive 1/16 the amount a male Sunni Muslim would receive.

As I said, freedom of religion doesn't create a perfect society.

Only if you have a religion that divides humans into the class of believers and disbelievers . Islam and christianity both have been state religions . Islam still is and its in the nature of both to conquer or try conquering each other and others as well .

 

[*charisma*]

A Sunni Muslim male in Saudi Arabia receives the full award as required by Sharia, a Jewish or Christian male receives 50 percent of the compensation a Muslim male would receive, and Hindus (and others such as Buddhists, and Sikhs) are only entitled to receive 1/16 the amount a male Sunni Muslim would receive.

In regards to what?
Salary?

Only if you have a religion that divides humans into the class of believers and disbelievers . Islam and christianity both have been state religions . Islam still is and its in the nature of both to conquer or try conquering each other and others as well .

Every religion does that, not Islam. Jews are trying to conquer Muslim lands. Christians are trying to conquer Muslim lands. Really, you can't just single out Muslims in that regard.

 

[Captain Howdy]

In regards to what?
Salary?

Diyyah

Every religion does that, not Islam. Jews are trying to conquer Muslim lands. Christians are trying to conquer Muslim lands. Really, you can't just single out Muslims in that regard.

There is no concept of kafir or unbeliever in Vedas. Nor is the command of slavish worship . Yes christians do that too . As for the jews well they are chosen people . Read the protocols of elder zions . I hate jews . They are a race . [FONT=Verdana,Arial]The Jewish reptilian genes are passed onto Jewish offspring from a Jewish mother. Orthodox Jews only recognize Jews being born of a Jewish mother as legitimate Jews. We have heard of "half Jews" "quarter jews" "part jews" but one does not state "I am a half Catholic" or how about a quarter Lutheran, or maybe part moslem. You can draw picture of jew but not of a catholic or such . [/FONT]

 

[*charisma*]

Diyyah

This isn't true. One reason is because you're citing wikipedia. Unless you have some other valid resources which are Islamic, I'd give the benefit of the doubt.

There is no concept of kafir or unbeliever in Vedas. Nor is the command of slavish worship .

That doesn't make sense. I don't believe in what you believe.
And I like slavish worship. It keeps one humble and reflective.

 

[L a n a]

http://www.newsweek.com/teacher-placed-leave-hijab-pulling-714356


MUSLIM STUDENTS ARE GETTING THEIR HIJABS PULLED OFF BY TEACHERS IN CLASSROOMS ACROSS THE NATION
BY BEATRICE DUPUY ON 11/16/17 AT 6:02 PM
A Virginia school district has placed a teacher on leave for removing a student’s hijab from her head. The student took to Twitter after the incident Wednesday saying that her hijab was “ripped off her head” by a teacher she appreciated and valued, according to WJLA.


An account that appears to belong to the student said she was talking with her friend when the teacher pulled off her hijab from behind. To her shock, he then said: “Oh, your hair is so pretty,” she said on Twitter.
The Fairfax County Public School district released a statement calling the incident “inappropriate and unacceptable.” “FCPS takes this incident seriously and, while a thorough investigation of the incident is conducted, the teacher has been placed on leave,” the district said.


The Council on American-Islamic Relations confirmed the Twitter statements from the student. “We welcome the decision to place the teacher on leave and to apologize to the student and her family, but further disciplinary action needs to be taken based on the results of the investigation into this disturbing incident," Nihad Awad, CAIR national executive director, said. "No student should be bullied or attacked because of his or her faith. Teachers must protect students, not subject them to harassment or intimidation,”


School districts have reported hijab pulling at schools across the nation from teachers and students in recent months. CAIR also called for the removal of a teacher from a Nashville, Tennessee, charter school last week. A teacher from the school uploaded a video to social media showing a student at the New Vision Academy Charter School having her hijab removed to show students. In the video, the girl is seen trying to cover up her hair as someone tries to pull off her hijab and play with her hair. A Snapchat video of the incident showed students touching the student’s hair with the caption “pretty hair.”


The teacher was later suspended without pay last week.


“New Vision will use this video as an opportunity to press forward with increasing cultural sensitivity and awareness among all members of the New Vision community,” Tim Malone, executive director of the school, said in a statement to WSMV.


In May, a Bronx substitute teacher in New York City ripped off a second-grade student’s hijab because the student was allegedly misbehaving. The teacher was later charged with a hate crime.

This is just awful. Nobody should be assaulted/abused for their CLOTHING of all things. They should just go ahead permanently ban the teacher from teaching.

 

[Captain Howdy]

This isn't true. One reason is because you're citing wikipedia. Unless you have some other valid resources which are Islamic, I'd give the benefit of the doubt.

Citation was given from these sources .

• Human Rights Watch (2004), Migrant Communities in Saudi Arabia
• Saudi Arabia BUREAU OF DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND LABOR, US State Department, 2011 Report on International Religious Freedom (2011)

http://jeddahpcg.dfa.gov.ph/qisas-and-diyya-or-blood-money

And this is just one aspect of super tolerance in KSA . Theres N number of such laws that makes non moslem life miserable in there.

That doesn't make sense. I don't believe in what you believe.
And I like slavish worship. It keeps one humble and reflective.

Yes thats right . Therefore you do realize a huge chunk will never agree to what you believe . Surah al kafiroon is best surah I found tbh .
If you feel it keeps you humble and reflective then I have no issues with that uwu .

 

[Supernova]

Because of same secularism which is branded a fitnah in your own deen

Explain

 

[Captain Howdy]

Explain

The one who rules according to man-made laws and abolishes the rulings of sharee‘ah is a secularist. The one who ban or objects to the carrying out of hadd punishments such as executing the murderer and stoning or flogging the adulterer and the drinker of alcohol, or cutting off the limbs of the thief or bandit, and claims that carrying out these punishments is inhumane, or that it is cruel and abhorrent, also comes under the heading of secularism.

Theocratic Islamic State != Secularism

 

[*charisma*]

Citation was given from these sources .

• Human Rights Watch (2004), Migrant Communities in Saudi Arabia
• Saudi Arabia BUREAU OF DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, AND LABOR, US State Department, 2011 Report on International Religious Freedom (2011)

http://jeddahpcg.dfa.gov.ph/qisas-and-diyya-or-blood-money

And this is just one aspect of super tolerance in KSA . Theres N number of such laws that makes non moslem life miserable in there.

I'm sure there are a few laws for some non citizens that are annoying, they may even face discrimination just like in all nations, but for the most part they are there to work and provide for their families. Many of them do live happily there especially when they are able to save up and build their homes and send to their families. You cant really make judgements when youve never lived there ir seen peoples lives there.

As for the citations..ive already looked through them and they still dont prove anything. Laws concerning killings are taken very seriously regardless of the victim.

Yes thats right . Therefore you do realize a huge chunk will never agree to what you believe . Surah al kafiroon is best surah I found tbh .
If you feel it keeps you humble and reflective then I have no issues with that uwu .

Of course. We may always disagree, the difference is.. im not trying to change the laws in your land or asking you to conform to the way i live

 

[Supernova]

The one who rules according to man-made laws and abolishes the rulings of sharee‘ah is a secularist. The one who ban or objects to the carrying out of hadd punishments such as executing the murderer and stoning or flogging the adulterer and the drinker of alcohol, or cutting off the limbs of the thief or bandit, and claims that carrying out these punishments is inhumane, or that it is cruel and abhorrent, also comes under the heading of secularism.

Theocratic Islamic State != Secularism

Please Explain that

 

[Captain Howdy]

As for the citations..ive already looked through them and they still dont prove anything.

Fair enough . You dont agree to citations when its ksa . I had not agree to hr citations when its New Delhi .

Of course. We may always disagree, the difference is.. im not trying to change the laws in your land or asking you to conform to the way i live

Do you plan to give me a minus 666 in Rating ? Just an inquiry .

 

[Captain Howdy]

Please Explain that

Secularism according to you isnt a corrupt school of thought and it poses a danger to the islamic commitment of the Muslim??? because the secularist is not looking for truth; rather he is looking for whatever is in harmony with his whims and desires. Hence you will find that the secularist is always looking for specious arguments that he can stir up, but at the same time he blocks his ears and averts his eyes from the so called Islamic evidence and the texts of the revelation.

Do you support secularism as long as it allows preaching of deen ?

 

[Search]

:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

>Asks for freedom of religion in KSA
>Gets branded egotistical
Topkek

It is completely irrational of you to reach the conclusion you've reached: Are you a troll? Because if not, there is serious deficiency in your understanding given that anyone with even an average reading comprehension can grasp that what I'm saying is that you're supporting what you yourself consider a wrong position when or if practiced by others but advocate for the reverse as a way to oppress others' freedom with whom you clearly do not share a faith and obviously seem to carry some antipathy. Also, I am not going to even pretend to a politeness I don't feel here in regards to your remarks - personally, I think you're an egotistical jerk (surprise, no surprise) and one at that who believe your posts stands as some type of "gotcha" and that your ignorance is to be rewarded.

Tell you what: How about in U.S., since this was not ever founded as a polytheist land, I and others of Abrahamic faith advocate for any Hindu women who wear bindis, vermilion, black necklaces called mangalsutra, saris, or other traditional Indian wear, etc. here in the West to allow us to preach them the virtues of Abrahamic faith in your temples freely and only then will we ever allow "your" women here to wear their traditional decorative items? Does that sound like you the voice of a reasonable person or an ass? You decide and let me know. Then, rest assured I think of you as the latter.

Peace.

 

[Silas]

I think we need to slow down here ...

While there might have been an isolated incident in which a teacher pulled a hijab off the head of a Muslim girl, I haven't seen any reports of such behavior being widespread, and it is certainly not happening all over the country. The media would jump all over this story and there would be a general outrage.

 

[Captain Howdy]

I think you're an egotistical jerk (surprise, no surprise) and one at that who believe your posts stands as some type of "gotcha" and that your ignorance is to be rewarded.

Nope you are ignoramus. Dont you know there are minor incidents of so called discrimination in non moslems land for majority of liberals , communists and leftists to support your freedom. But that is not the case in Islamic theocratic states . If you complain about rights in non believers land , then you shiould also introspect and raise voice , do something equally constructive in Islamic theocratic states too . THis is called pseudo secularism , the one which you are adept at .

How about in U.S., since this was not ever founded as a polytheist land. and others of Abrahamic faith advocate for any Hindu women who wear bindis, vermilion, black necklaces called mangalsutra, saris, or other traditional Indian wear, etc. here in the West to allow us to preach them the virtues of Abrahamic faith in your temples freely and only then will we ever allow "your" women here to wear their traditional decorative items?

Christopher Columbus for your gk , discovered that land . He was not moslem . Secondly , The Real American Revolution lets see what founding fathers have to say about abrahamic faiths
Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
-Benajmin Franklin

"In the affairs of the world, men are saved, not by faith, but by the lack of it." -Benjamin
Franklin

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been
burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What
has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites.
To support roguery and error all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson
The largest group consisted of founders who retained Christian loyalties and practice but were influenced by Deism to great deal of extent . I have obnly give a breif insight .
Declaration of Independence (1776)
The most important assertion in this document is that “to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”
Note that the power of government is derived not from any god but from the people. No appeal is made in this document to a god for authority of any kind. In no case are any powers given to religion in the affairs of man. The native americans were not abrhamic as well .

I can give lectures of multiple pages debunking Abrahamic myth of Murica . Did you bunk your history classes ?

its good you are willing to support hindu women . I give you your due credit . But you do realize mangalsutra , bindi support by you is shirk . Allah wont be happy about that .

 

[AabiruSabeel]

Dont you know there are minor incidents of so called discrimination in non moslems land for majority of liberals , communists and leftists to support your freedom. But that is not the case in Islamic theocratic states . If you complain about rights in non believers land , then you shiould also introspect and raise voice , do something equally constructive in Islamic theocratic states too .

Stop trolling. Nobody is complaining of the lack of rights in non-Muslim lands. They are speaking of harassment. Now you won't find non-Muslims being harassed in Muslim countries (or Islamic theocratic states as you put it) just because they are non-Muslims.

I can give lectures of multiple pages debunking Abrahamic myth of Murica .

You don't have comprehension issues, do you? Where did she say that America was founded on Abrahamic faith. Instead of actually understanding the points raised, you have taken them out of context.

We do not like trolls here. You have been warned.

 

[Futuwwa]

If you complain about rights in non believers land , then you shiould also introspect and raise voice , do something equally constructive in Islamic theocratic states too .

This is called whataboutism. Homework assignment: Figure out why it's a non-argument.

its good you are willing to support hindu women . I give you your due credit . But you do realize mangalsutra , bindi support by you is shirk . Allah wont be happy about that .

Shirk. Kufr. Those seem to be your canned responses whenever someone doesn't fit your particular preconceived idea of what a Muslim is or thinks. Sorry for not being the kind of Muslim your talking points would actually hit home on.

 

[Captain Howdy]

out of context.

I am going thru those links the one that you dropped . I will reply accordingly uwu

whenever someone doesn't fit your particular.

You do understand we are not moslems . Our approach will be not that of one who agrees to surah baqrah verse 3 . Now please excuse me thanks .

 

[Futuwwa]

You do understand we are not moslems . Our approach will be not that of one who agrees to surah baqrah verse 3 . Now please excuse me thanks .

Looks like replying with some random off-topic non sequitur is your standard response when your talking points fail to hit home. By all means, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Singularity]

Excerpt:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/...ng-head-scarf-repeatedly-bullied-by-students/


San Jose: Muslim teacher wearing head scarf repeatedly bullied by students

Maimona Afzal Berta teaches a class of 8th graders at Fischer Middle School in San Jose, California, on Monday, Nov. 20, 2017. Vandals have tagged her room with hateful anti-Muslim graffiti 15 times this year. Berta and the Alum Rock Educators Association have filed a formal complaint against the school district. (Gary Reyes/ Bay Area News Group)
By SHARON NOGUCHI | [email protected] | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: November 24, 2017 at 7:00 am | UPDATED: November 24, 2017 at 9:44 am
SAN JOSE — Eagerly anticipating her English students delving into “Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone,” Maimona Afzal Berta arrived early to school Sept. 11. Her classroom walls at Fischer Middle School depicted a London skyline; soon the room would also include the famous Platform 9¾, a Hogwarts sorting hat and hanging replicas of floating lanterns.


But on walking up she was stunned by a hateful reality. Anti-Muslim slurs and obscenities were scrawled on her classroom’s windows and door. Spray-painted graffiti also defaced other rooms and rooftop air-conditioning units at the San Jose campus.


“It was devastating,” the special-education teacher said. “I felt completely targeted, and not even safe in a place I consider home.”


The attacks came after multiple instances of harassment during spring semester, aimed at her, a classroom aide and an after-school supervisor, all women who wear a hijab, the Muslim head scarf. By Berta’s count, there have been 15 incidents from January to November. The other two women could not be reached for comment.


The district reported the graffiti and another later harassment incident to police. Some students have been disciplined, but no suspects have been arrested for the graffiti. Fischer does not have surveillance cameras.


“At the Alum Rock Union School District, we will never tolerate any behavior that makes either our students or team members feel marginalized,” Superintendent Hilaria Bauer wrote Monday in a statement. She and other officials have expressed sympathy for Berta and outrage at the harassment.


The unceasing bullying reflects the challenge facing campuses, even those run by well-meaning adults. Fischer’s walls feature images and quotes of a panoply of civil-rights leaders, from Filipino founders of the United Farm Workers Union, to Pakistani girls’ advocate Malala Yousafzai to author and activist Maya Angelou. Administrators have spent hours investigating, counseling and discussing standards of behavior.


Yet Berta, who grew up in East San Jose, now feels so insecure that she her husband, also a Fischer teacher, must escort her to class every morning.


Throughout the country, harassment of Muslims, South Asians and Middle Easterners reportedly has been on the rise since the nation’s presidential campaign. Educators and civil rights-advocates say young people take their cue from a president who has been quick to deride critics, ridicule opponents and blame Muslims and immigrants.


Berta, 23, has taught for five years — she graduated from college at age 18 — but the harassment didn’t start until January. The White House example “creates a lot of chaos that is unnecessary,” said Fischer Principal Imee Almazan, “when you have a leader of country who is saying what he is saying.”


Students have kicked Berta’s classroom door and yelled “shoot her,” labeled her a terrorist, accused her of working with ISIS and shouted to others that she was going to “kill us all.” Almazan said that two other victims, who no longer work at Fischer, confirmed they also had been bullied but had not reported it at the time.


In response, Fischer has held assemblies on bullying, workshops on stereotypes and misconceptions about Muslims, and exercises in character-building. The school plans to train teachers next week in an interactive curriculum offered by the Islamic Network Group.


But the school also has lagged in responding to incidents.


Berta was incensed that after an Oct. 2 incident — when she heard banging on her door and windows and someone yelled “shoot her” — one student was given lunch detention, then 10 days later another was suspended for two days. The incident was reported to police and the vice principal spent more than a day investigating, Almazan said.


“Students will get lunch detention for wearing colored shirts or not wearing their lanyard,” Berta said. “To put saying ‘shoot her’ in the same category as a dress code violation didn’t make any sense to me.”