Women's Rights in Islam.

Your video link is terminated, kindly share some new links with authentic references. Islam is the Religion which gave the proper rights of women and told us, women are not burdened on the men. Islam gave them respect in the form of Mother, Sister, Daughter, Wife etc.
 
AntiScimitar said:
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Your argument is a logical fallacy, and is the result of the lack of knowledge you seem to display. Therefore I have concluded that it is of no practical use for me to attempt, and reject your position, because you will fail to acknowledge the situation at hand.

Inshallah one of the more experienced brothers or sisters can reply to this nuisance.


Nevertheless, Islam is the only religion in the world that supply women with the dignity, and the rights they deserve. What does the western world do? Objectifies, and encourages women to dress inappropriately, and show-off their bodies, walking down the street half-naked, like it is nothing. And when someone dresses modestly it is suppressed by society, and look down upon like you've committed a major crime.
The repercussions caused by the influence of the westernized mentality has caused a multitude of predicaments that continue to deteriorate societies at large. Due to the mass hypersexualization of societies, people become so desensitized to attraction of the opposite sex that they fall back to in same sex relations for a source of pleasure, which is one of the main reasons of how AIDS came to spread, and caused around 39 million deaths world wide.
Moreover, you get the production of unwanted babies resulting in 50 million abortions annually as of 2014, which is basically murder of a baby human being. And then you get ------- children, which most of the time, they end up in jail, go look at the statistics for yourself if you think I'm lying. And you're saying Islam oppresses women by claiming women should stay chaste, and modest.

Regarding verse 4:24 quote, I don't see the issue.. You're not allowed to marry a married women, except whom your right hand possess. Obviously a female cannot have more than one husband, because this can cause the spread of many lethal diseases that resulting from excess sexual intimacy.
Men get more inheritance for certain reasons, and it is the responsibility, and duty of men to spend most, if not all. of the inherited wealth on their women.
Men are not allowed to beat their women per say, according to the sahih hadith, you're allowed to merely touch here with something the likes of a miswak.
And you're not allowed to marry a slave women if she doesn't agree, as per the hadeeth you're not allowed to hit them, let alone marrying them...

Reading Quran without hadeeth, and scholarly guidance is like walking amidst the dark.

Please check yourself before you wreck yourself. You're just good at quoting hadeeth, thinking you're forming a constructive argument, but in reality you are only misguiding people from the truth, which seems to be your aim.

Allaho alam
 
AntiScimitar said:

There's also a hadith, narrated by Umar Ibn Al-Kattab,,book 11, Hadith 2142: The Prophet said: "A main will not by asked to why he beat his wife."
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Which hadith collection would that be from? If you knew what you are talking about, you'd know that that citation is incomplete, making it impossible for anyone to verify the matter. But you don't, because you just copypasted that from somewhere.

Troll better next time.
 
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You said "Uh, No. In Islam a man's position is well above that of a woman. Men get more inheritance, they have more rights, and they can beat their wives."Men get more inheritence.The reason is simple.Because men are responsible for running a family.Generally,women spend from what their Husbands earn.So it is logically more sound to give men more inheritence.Moreover,Out of that inheritence,Men have the obligation to spend on his family.But a woman does not!Meaning that a husband has to spend on his family out of the inheritence he gets.But the wife does not.So apparently,women get more inheritence considering that that money is only for themselves and not for others.
As far as wife "beating" is concerned,then read this original post of mine.The last point I make is especially important.
https://www.islamicboard.com/clarif...134346919-wife-beating-islam.html#post2970064

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The wife beating thing is answered here.
https://islamqa.info/en/41199

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You mentioned slave women.
Here is your answer.
Firstly,The rights of slaves.
https://islamqa.info/en/94840
Secondly.After Islam has given slaves all these rights,yet it allows to forcefully marry them?
Be logical and impartial.Forced marriages are not allowed in Islam.Even if the woman is forced to sign the marriage contract against her free will,THE MARRIAGE IS STILL INVALID.
Thirdly.
In ancient times,WOMEN USED TO ADORN THEMSELVES DURING WAR SO THAT THEY MAY BE TAKEN SLAVES BY THE VICTORS!
The slave women had intercourse willingly.
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/does_islam_permit_muslim_men_to_rape_their_slave_girls_
There are also an incident where a Slave woman of the Prophet,peace and blessings be upon him,refused to leave the Prophet,peace and blessings be upon him,when her father came to take her away.If you want to see it for yourselves,I will post it here,Allah willing.The reason I have not posted this here is that it takes time to find that thread.I also forgot the name of the Slave woman,May Allah be pleased with her.

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You said that men can have four wives.
I have explained polygamy in this post of mine.
https://www.islamicboard.com/clarif...34345916-explaining-polygamy.html#post2963096

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YOU QUOTED THAT HADITH AND DID NOT READ WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW IT?
IT IS A WEAK HADITH.
​DA'IF IS WRITTEN BELOW IT.

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You mentioned why women have to cover themselves themselves and men not.
I have explained Hijab in this post of mine.
https://www.islamicboard.com/clarif...s-wear-hijab-detailed-answer.html#post2978011

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The Hadith is weak.
 
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I have told you what that wife "beating' really means.I also proved in my post that a man,who witnesses his wife committing adultery,is more than likely to beat her,but Islam stops from that.
Secondly.When is this "beating going to be done."
It is like tapping.As explained in this video.
Secondly.
The rights of wife are just like rights of any other human.Except that it is the responsibility of the husband to provide for her.
Take an example which may serve as a basis.
If a husband invites her wife to intimacy,according to Islam,she has to agree yes?Firstly,if a womaan invites her husband for intimacy,It is obligatory for him to agree as well did you know that?
Secondly.If the wife is tired,or worn out,and then she refuses,it is no sin upon her.Meaning,if she is unable to do it,she can refuse and there is no sin upon her.Similiar is the case of a Husband who refuses intimacy with his wife.
It only implies when the wife is perfectly able for intimacy,and still she refuses.That is a sin.And this is the same for the husband.It is obligatory upon him to agree to her wife's request.
Thirdly.What are the rights of wives.The best treatment.They cannot be transgressed against.And the Prophet,peace and blessings be upn him,summarized it as follows:
"The best of you are those who are best to your wives..."
I will further give you a real life example.
There was a American MUslim,who had a Christian wife.A wife who used to speak against ISlam.But afterwards,she converted to Islam,just because of the kind treatment by her husband.
That is the right of wife.Best treatment.
Fourthly.
You said that you have explained that Hadith enough.But the Hadith you quoted was a weak hadith.It cannot be accepted.If you want to accept it,and consider yourself more knowledgable that Scholors like Albanee,who classed it as DA'IF,discussing with you further is useless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQahPZmvU0
Fifthly.
You said that women are RULED over by men.
It is called gratitude.A man spends on you out of the money he earns,and you are going to be harsh towards him?
Also.
You said it is built around the "presumption" that women are weak.
Let me explain.
If a woman goes out of her house alone at night,Is there not every chance that she may get raped by another man?
The Western world,which you admire so much,has alot of rape cases.
So I ask you.If that women took her husband with her when she wants to go outside,Will the chances of her being raped not decrease greatly if not finished at all?
I have seen women infront of me getting harrassed.None of them had a male relative with them.
If they had a male releative with them,no one would dare taunt her.
I do not need to tell you why boys are afraid of the father of the girl,they have a crush on.
So yes,women are weak,and they need the protection of men to save them from various evils.Men are physically stronger,and the misuse and abuse of this strength,is a threat to women.And men protect from it.
If every women took a male relative with her outside,will the number of rapes not fall down significantly?

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I have told you what that wife "beating' really means.I also proved in my post that a man,who witnesses his wife committing adultery,is more than likely to beat her,but Islam stops from that.
Secondly.When is this "beating going to be done."
It is like tapping.As explained in this video.
Secondly.
The rights of wife are just like rights of any other human.Except that it is the responsibility of the husband to provide for her.
Take an example which may serve as a basis.
If a husband invites her wife to intimacy,according to Islam,she has to agree yes?Firstly,if a womaan invites her husband for intimacy,It is obligatory for him to agree as well did you know that?
Secondly.If the wife is tired,or worn out,and then she refuses,it is no sin upon her.Meaning,if she is unable to do it,she can refuse and there is no sin upon her.Similiar is the case of a Husband who refuses intimacy with his wife.
It only implies when the wife is perfectly able for intimacy,and still she refuses.That is a sin.And this is the same for the husband.It is obligatory upon him to agree to her wife's request.
Thirdly.What are the rights of wives.The best treatment.They cannot be transgressed against.And the Prophet,peace and blessings be upn him,summarized it as follows:
"The best of you are those who are best to your wives..."
I will further give you a real life example.
There was a American MUslim,who had a Christian wife.A wife who used to speak against ISlam.But afterwards,she converted to Islam,just because of the kind treatment by her husband.
That is the right of wife.Best treatment.
Fourthly.
You said that you have explained that Hadith enough.But the Hadith you quoted was a weak hadith.It cannot be accepted.If you want to accept it,and consider yourself more knowledgable that Scholors like Albanee,who classed it as DA'IF,discussing with you further is useless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQahPZmvU0
Fifthly.
You said that women are RULED over by men.
It is called gratitude.A man spends on you out of the money he earns,and you are going to be harsh towards him?
Also.
You said it is built around the "presumption" that women are weak.
Let me explain.
If a woman goes out of her house alone at night,Is there not every chance that she may get raped by another man?
The Western world,which you admire so much,has alot of rape cases.
So I ask you.If that women took her husband with her when she wants to go outside,Will the chances of her being raped not decrease greatly if not finished at all?
I have seen women infront of me getting harrassed.None of them had a male relative with them.
If they had a male releative with them,no one would dare taunt her.
I do not need to tell you why boys are afraid of the father of the girl,they have a crush on.
So yes,women are weak,and they need the protection of men to save them from various evils.Men are physically stronger,and the misuse and abuse of this strength,is a threat to women.And men protect from it.
If every women took a male relative with her outside,will the number of rapes not fall down significantly?
 
AntiScimitar said:
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Brother to me it seems like you're just attacking Islam with no will to understand or learn, so I will stop responding to your redundant claims, and hope that everyone see's you for your true colors inshallah.
 
ahmed.younes said:
Brother to me it seems like you're just attacking Islam with no will to understand or learn, so I will stop responding to your redundant claims, and hope that everyone see's you for your true colors inshallah.
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Inshallah.
 

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