Did God created Islam?

[Nitro Zeus]

I cannot believe that you read and try to understand the Holy Quraan. It is proved from your posts that you merely read Bible and then bring mockery-making questions from Bible. If you had started understanding the Holy Quraan only from the internet at quran.com or tafheem.net, your posts would change. Then your posts would reflect the fear of All-Mighty God as well as your sincere attempts to understand the Deen. Your posts would show a progress in your understanding and knowledge. You would appear to be a wise, honorable servant of All-Mighty God who would understand the secrets of the universe at large. But we have been trying with you very sincerely and you are not coming out of the stupid questions which clearly show that you are far far away from the Grand Wisdom of the Holy Quraan.

Look, I can prove that step by step you are wrong of what you’re thinking of me. Maybe I don’t know how to respect my promise because sometimes I broke them and sometimes I respect them but I can try more. I’m asking this because I want some evidences that Islam is also God’s creation and it has a beginning and no end, so that I can answer someone who asked this question “who is the founder of Islam” and some says that Islam has no beginning and no end, so that I can prove that this person was wrong and Islam has a beginning and have no end. Do you understand? And sometimes, I’m interested to know things so that in future I will know better.


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[Ümit]

Look, I can prove that step by step you are wrong of what you’re thinking of me. Maybe I don’t know how to respect my promise because sometimes I broke them and sometimes I respect them but I can try more. I’m asking this because I want some evidences that Islam is also God’s creation and it has a beginning and no end, so that I can answer someone who asked this question “who is the founder of Islam” and some says that Islam has no beginning and no end, so that I can prove that this person was wrong and Islam has a beginning and have no end. Do you understand? And sometimes, I’m interested to know things so that in future I will know better.


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I do not think you can find any verse on this. But you can reason about it like this:
Islam simply means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law in Arabic.
We all know Allah has no beginning and no end. You can find lots of verses about this.
We also know that Allah created every living creature. You can find verses about this.
We all know that in thehereafter there will be eternal life in Heaven or Hell. You can find verses about this.

This means Islam has a beginning, because the living creatures cannot obey Allahs will if they do not exist.
This also means that Islam has no end because we will have eternal life in thehereafter, and as long as we exist we will obey Allahs will.

Just simple logic that Islam has a beginning but no end.

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Asalaamualaykum

I have pointed out the identical issue to both the OP and MODERATORS alike. The only thing that comes out from this persons mouth is utter donkey excretion (and that's even a embarrassing to the digestive tract of a donkey to be honest).

You'd be even more surprised that Muslims jumped in his defence and moderators even allow him to infect the very Aqeeda of people in this forum.

Yes I jumped in his defence. I do not know this guy and his real motives, but I usually believe in the good in all people.
Although I do agree that some of his questions are on the edge, I still would ask you not to lose your cool and just try to answer as good as possible.
you will lose nothing with that and besides, it is a great exercise for you.
He does not look like a threat.

 

[Mahir Adnan]

hazrat adam (alaihis salam) is the first Muslim. Allah says, When learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful. S. 2:30, 34-35, 37
I heard qiyamat will fall upon kuffars.
Hadhrat Abdullah bin Umar Al-Farooq (R.A.) narrates that Allah Ta’ala will not lift up the knowledge (of Deen) by removing it from the hearts of people, but instead he will lift up (cause the death) of those possessing Deeni knowledge gradually until no Aalim remains. At such a time people will turn towards the ignorant people in matters pertaining to Deen, seeking verdicts (Fatawa) from them. They will issue verdicts without knowledge. They will be deviated and lead others astray. (Mishkaat)

 

[OmAbdullah]

hazrat adam (alaihis salam) is the first Muslim. Allah says, When learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful. S. 2:30, 34-35, 37
I heard qiyamat will fall upon kuffars.
Hadhrat Abdullah bin Umar Al-Farooq (R.A.) narrates that Allah Ta’ala will not lift up the knowledge (of Deen) by removing it from the hearts of people, but instead he will lift up (cause the death) of those possessing Deeni knowledge gradually until no Aalim remains. At such a time people will turn towards the ignorant people in matters pertaining to Deen, seeking verdicts (Fatawa) from them. They will issue verdicts without knowledge. They will be deviated and lead others astray. (Mishkaat)

Knowledge will be removed by the death of the true scholars and the Muslim Ummah then will have no scholars because the Muslims will not learn and understand the Holy Quraan to become learned Muslims. As long as Muslims try to learn the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah the knowledge will remain and the Muslim Ummah will be strong.


So we must realize that Allah is not depriving us of the scholars and knowledge, rather it is the Muslims themselves who are throwing the Holy Quraan at their backs like the jews did! And the Hadeeth of the Prophet salla Allaho alayhi wa sallam is informing us about this attitude of the Muslims towards the Holy Quraan. I can prove my statement by the verse 30 of the surah Al-Furqaan, its translation is:

[h=2]30. And the Messenger has said, "O my Lord, indeed my people have taken this Qur'an as [a thing] abandoned."[/h] ******************************************************************************************************************


This verse comes in the context of the description about the Day of Judgment. Therefore, it is like the Prophet salla Allaho alayhi wa sallam will complain about the Ummah on the Day of Judgment.

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Look, I can prove that step by step you are wrong of what you’re thinking of me. Maybe I don’t know how to respect my promise because sometimes I broke them and sometimes I respect them but I can try more. I’m asking this because I want some evidences that Islam is also God’s creation and it has a beginning and no end, so that I can answer someone who asked this question “who is the founder of Islam” and some says that Islam has no beginning and no end, so that I can prove that this person was wrong and Islam has a beginning and have no end. Do you understand? And sometimes, I’m interested to know things so that in future I will know better.


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If you write an article, will you say, 'this article is created by me?"

If a king makes some laws and implement them, will you say, "These laws are created by the king?"

I am sure you will not use such strange words about your article or about the king's laws. Then why do you use strange unusual words about Allah and Allah's Deen?


If you claim to be a Muslim then you must seek beneficial knowledge. A Muslim believes in the Day of Judgment, Accounting, Punishment in Hell and Reward in Paradise. Due to his/her belief, he/she is worried about his/her accounting. Therefore, they are always very busy to find and know how to protect themselves from the terrible punishment in Hell, and to be protected from the hard Accounting, so they check their words and conduct. Even in this world, they fear the Anger of Allah and keep their tongue and hands under full control. So they will not utter words or use their hands for doing or writing something to make Allah angry.
Now if you look at your posts, the useless questions that you posted are not to benefit you in the Here-after. You are completely careless and carefree about your Accounting and punishment in the Here-After. You are also fearless from the Anger of Allah in this world. That is a clear proof that you have no faith about the Day of Judgment. You consider yourself as a free person to do whatever you want.

I will be thankful to this forum if you are banned from here.

 

[Nitro Zeus]

Knowledge will be removed by the death of the true scholars and the Muslim Ummah then will have no scholars because the Muslims will not learn and understand the Holy Quraan to become learned Muslims. As long as Muslims try to learn the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah the knowledge will remain and the Muslim Ummah will be strong.


So we must realize that Allah is not depriving us of the scholars and knowledge, rather it is the Muslims themselves who are throwing the Holy Quraan at their backs like the jews did! And the Hadeeth of the Prophet salla Allaho alayhi wa sallam is informing us about this attitude of the Muslims towards the Holy Quraan. I can prove my statement by the verse 30 of the surah Al-Furqaan, its translation is:

[h=2]30. And the Messenger has said, "O my Lord, indeed my people have taken this Qur'an as [a thing] abandoned."[/h] ******************************************************************************************************************


This verse comes in the context of the description about the Day of Judgment. Therefore, it is like the Prophet salla Allaho alayhi wa sallam will complain about the Ummah on the Day of Judgment.

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If you write an article, will you say, 'this article is created by me?"

If a king makes some laws and implement them, will you say, "These laws are created by the king?"

I am sure you will not use such strange words about your article or about the king's laws. Then why do you use strange unusual words about Allah and Allah's Deen?


If you claim to be a Muslim then you must seek beneficial knowledge. A Muslim believes in the Day of Judgment, Accounting, Punishment in Hell and Reward in Paradise. Due to his/her belief, he/she is worried about his/her accounting. Therefore, they are always very busy to find and know how to protect themselves from the terrible punishment in Hell, and to be protected from the hard Accounting, so they check their words and conduct. Even in this world, they fear the Anger of Allah and keep their tongue and hands under full control. So they will not utter words or use their hands for doing or writing something to make Allah angry.
Now if you look at your posts, the useless questions that you posted are not to benefit you in the Here-after. You are completely careless and carefree about your Accounting and punishment in the Here-After. You are also fearless from the Anger of Allah in this world. That is a clear proof that you have no faith about the Day of Judgment. You consider yourself as a free person to do whatever you want.

I will be thankful to this forum if you are banned from here.

You’re right. Sorry brother, I didn’t realized what I did, but now I do, this will be the last mistake and next time I will only ask only beneficial knowledge. Sometimes, I like to ask things so that I can know more or just for me but now I realized that it was bad what I did. And, I don’t consider myself a “free person”. Oh and, next time can you please stop irritating me by saying bad words such as “you’re careless” or “you’re lier” I don’t like that, you could remind me to stop asking nonsense questions and that would be enough. My Christian mother used to say this to me:

“Ce tie nu-ti place, altuia nu-i face”

“What you don’t like, to others don’t do it”

If someone calls you a “lier” or “you’re careless”? I’m pretty sure you don’t like to be called like that.


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[Mahir Adnan]

Knowledge will be removed by the death of the true scholars and the Muslim Ummah then will have no scholars because the Muslims will not learn and understand the Holy Quraan to become learned Muslims. As long as Muslims try to learn the Holy Quraan and the Sunnah the knowledge will remain and the Muslim Ummah will be strong

I guess your view is correct too.but I won't leave my opinion as its the widely accepted explanation

 

[OmAbdullah]

You’re right. Sorry brother, I didn’t realized what I did, but now I do, this will be the last mistake and next time I will only ask only beneficial knowledge. Sometimes, I like to ask things so that I can know more or just for me but now I realized that it was bad what I did. And, I don’t consider myself a “free person”. Oh and, next time can you please stop irritating me by saying bad words such as “you’re careless” or “you’re lier” I don’t like that, you could remind me to stop asking nonsense questions and that would be enough. My Christian mother used to say this to me:

“Ce tie nu-ti place, altuia nu-i face”

“What you don’t like, to others don’t do it”

If someone calls you a “lier” or “you’re careless”? I’m pretty sure you don’t like to be called like that.


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I have never used the words liar for you. If somebody is careless and is going to fall into a river at his back while I am sincerely trying to protect him/her then I must say clearly that you are very careless. This is not an abusing word. I observe that due to your carelessness, you are going to fall into the terrible Fire of Hell. Then I must say clear words to make you awake and alert. Moreover, we human beings are nothing but you as a human being care so much for your respect while your attitude about Allah and His Deen is so much bad and you don't realize it. Allah's Honor is very High. A Muslim doesn't say any words against Allah's Honor. That is also the quality of a Muslim. So you must check yourself for that quality. Even a Christian heart /mind has the fear of God and has respect for God's Deen. But that will be a true Christian.

 

[Nitro Zeus]

I have never used the words liar for you. If somebody is careless and is going to fall into a river at his back while I am sincerely trying to protect him/her then I must say clearly that you are very careless. This is not an abusing word. I observe that due to your carelessness, you are going to fall into the terrible Fire of Hell. Then I must say clear words to make you awake and alert. Moreover, we human beings are nothing but you as a human being care so much for your respect while your attitude about Allah and His Deen is so much bad and you don't realize it. Allah's Honor is very High. A Muslim doesn't say any words against Allah's Honor. That is also the quality of a Muslim. So you must check yourself for that quality. Even a Christian heart /mind has the fear of God and has respect for God's Deen. But that will be a true Christian.

You said it to me in the last post that “I’m a lier”, “I like to deceive Muslims” and “surely you’re troll”. I appreciate what you’re trying to do, but why did you said to me “I’ll be thankful to this forum if you’re banned”? I felt disturbed when I read this. I hope I will not go to that bad place not even for 1 second, my wish is to go the highest level in Heaven and I will start from now to make my baggage so that I will go to the highest level in Heaven. And if I want to ask personal things not necessarily to be about religion only sometimes out of curiosity you know what I mean? and sometimes I ask only what is beneficial. Will that be ok if I do this?


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[OmAbdullah]

You said it to me in the last post that “I’m a lier”, “I like to deceive Muslims” and “surely you’re troll”. I appreciate what you’re trying to do, but why did you said to me “I’ll be thankful to this forum if you’re banned”? I felt disturbed when I read this. I hope I will not go to that bad place not even for 1 second, my wish is to go the highest level in Heaven and I will start from now to make my baggage so that I will go to the highest level in Heaven. And if I want to ask personal things not necessarily to be about religion only sometimes out of curiosity you know what I mean? and sometimes I ask only what is beneficial. Will that be ok if I do this?

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Very good that you start your baggage for Heaven but you must know what should you have in that baggage. In short I tell you only one hadeeth of the Final Prophet Muhammad salla Allaho alayhi wa sallam. He said: "I am leaving among you two things, the Book of Allah and my Sunnah. Whoever holds fast to these two will never go astray". (And Allah knows the best.)


So you will clean your heart /mind and tongue by the Faith and actions of Islam. and thus your preparation will start for making the baggage. Whatever I said to you or about you, was for your benefit. Sometimes a person sleeps so deeply that a destruction is coming upon him/her in the form of a flood or fire, the surrounding people are calling him repeatedly but in vain. Finally one of the people starts beating him hard to wake him/her. That beating is for their benefit.