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Nitro Zeus wants Jupiter to fall lol. He is talking about personal salvation and Allah SWT says "La taqnatu bi rahmatillah". So personal salvation is guaranteed in Quran and ahadiths with some conditions already foretold.
Stay blessed.
Jupiter was only meant ironic...he meant to illustrate that there is no such thing as guarantees (not even about personal salvation) by just saying some sort of prayer. An atheist can make as much as Salaats as he wants...5 times a day, his whole life long...but as long as he does not believe in Allah...he will not benefit from this.
consider these cases:
Case 1: a drunk guy with still a beer in his hand reciting the above prayer and asking Allah to forgive all his sins? Like you said, his dua is not for disturbing the world but it is really something personal. He does not show regret and he doesn’t repent. Just recited the prayer and makes this dua. Will Allah fulfill his dua guaranteed in this case?
Case 2: an atheist who doesn’t even believe in Allah, not a single hair on his head that even considers to believe. Could this person just recite these prayers and ask Allah to forgive all his sins? Would Allah accept it guaranteed?
Case 3: A person reciting this prayer and ask Allah to let him win the lottery so that he can take care of his wife / mother / child or some other relative. Would Allah make this dua come true guaranteed just because this person recited this prayer?
What if a second person did exactly the same dua and they happened to ask to win the same lottery? Which one will be granted? Only one can win the lottery so the other one is then not answered even though he too recited the above prayers?
What I am saying is, intention, faith and hope play a huge role in this.
A farmer cannot plant seeds and then just pray to Allah that he will get good crops this year. He first has to water them regularly, take care of them...do everything he can to get good crops....and then he can pray to Allah.
about our brother Nitro, I like him very much. He is the one that asks "the stupid questions". I mean no question is stupid, but he asks the question that an average muslim would never ask because he never thought about it or because it felt too obvious.
Several times I experienced myself that only by answering his questions, I got forced to think more deeply about certain things, and it was not as easy as I initially thought.
I also experienced a few times that he has been asking questions that were also swerving around in my head, but I never asked anyone, because it was too embarrassing or it sounded too stupid.
So therefore [MENTION=42203]Nitro Zeus[/MENTION]:
Thank you for doing what you are doing and keep asking those questions!!