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Nimrod -
2 + 2 = 4 is a mathmatical fact and so is the tempurature for the boiling point for water. Niether of them are scientific facts. You seem to have a real problem to grasp this idea.
Your post on the context of a "scientific fact" merely confirms what I have been saying all along, interestingly enough:
Evolution has just become a fact and I doubt many in this forum would support that (afterall evolution is just a theory right)! The non-existence of spririts has also just become a fact, along with the theory of general relativity. Of course, scientifically that fact could "change" if we later find out we were wrong......... So what is thje value of a scientific fact if only to disprove differing and often a competing hypothosis.
Facts in science are indeed as I said, best guesses based on the evidence collected to date, the attachment of the most probable.
Sorry for wasting your thread since we gone way OT.
It's not about being truthful, I believe you believe what you seen and others too. However, I would merely point out to you that what you presume to think you saw was not in fact real.
I once as a child on numerous occasions heard my mum shouting me, when I came down stairs and asked my Dad where Mum was he would say she's been out for hours. To me, my mum shouting me was real and i simply explain this rationally by accepting what I heard may have seemed real (in as much as an experience) but it was not real in the real world........
I often think (God forbid) that had my mother had been dead, would it be logical or rational to believe that my mum's spririt was calling me. The world can become prity quickly a magnet of supertitions and false worshipping if it was not for a little bit of good ole rationality. Of course facts are not what they initially seem to be outside of a religous belief.
I was a young Army cadet at the age of 11 (I lied about my age) and I was very much scared of the dark, I was marooned in the middle of nowhere in complete darkness and overcome my fears by rationally understanding that "fear" of the night was nothing more than a left over "evolutionary warning" thrown back to a time when we were very much hunted since as a species we are very vulnerable at night. With this rational thinking and the logical concept that "creatures of the night" were not in fact real allowed me to overcome this fear. Belief, in an unproven beast of the night would have just a belief and verty much unfounded, just like your spirits.
2 + 2 = 4 is a mathmatical fact and so is the tempurature for the boiling point for water. Niether of them are scientific facts. You seem to have a real problem to grasp this idea.
Your post on the context of a "scientific fact" merely confirms what I have been saying all along, interestingly enough:
Evolution has just become a fact and I doubt many in this forum would support that (afterall evolution is just a theory right)! The non-existence of spririts has also just become a fact, along with the theory of general relativity. Of course, scientifically that fact could "change" if we later find out we were wrong......... So what is thje value of a scientific fact if only to disprove differing and often a competing hypothosis.
Facts in science are indeed as I said, best guesses based on the evidence collected to date, the attachment of the most probable.
Sorry for wasting your thread since we gone way OT.
It's not about being truthful, I believe you believe what you seen and others too. However, I would merely point out to you that what you presume to think you saw was not in fact real.
I once as a child on numerous occasions heard my mum shouting me, when I came down stairs and asked my Dad where Mum was he would say she's been out for hours. To me, my mum shouting me was real and i simply explain this rationally by accepting what I heard may have seemed real (in as much as an experience) but it was not real in the real world........
I often think (God forbid) that had my mother had been dead, would it be logical or rational to believe that my mum's spririt was calling me. The world can become prity quickly a magnet of supertitions and false worshipping if it was not for a little bit of good ole rationality. Of course facts are not what they initially seem to be outside of a religous belief.
I was a young Army cadet at the age of 11 (I lied about my age) and I was very much scared of the dark, I was marooned in the middle of nowhere in complete darkness and overcome my fears by rationally understanding that "fear" of the night was nothing more than a left over "evolutionary warning" thrown back to a time when we were very much hunted since as a species we are very vulnerable at night. With this rational thinking and the logical concept that "creatures of the night" were not in fact real allowed me to overcome this fear. Belief, in an unproven beast of the night would have just a belief and verty much unfounded, just like your spirits.
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