Looming Iran-USA War/Tensions

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Sorry missed this.

"certain forces"

The Iranians are not fooled by the "escalating crisis" either:
As Tehran and London trade accusations over the seized tankers, Iran’s ambassador in London warns that certain forces in the UK aim to use the crisis to boost tensions even further. Ramping up pressure would be dangerous and “unwise,” Hamid Hamid Baeidinejad warned in a tweet on his personal account on Sunday.

That’s why it’s key now for the UK government to “contain those domestic political forces who want to escalate existing tension between Iran and the UK well beyond the issue of ships.”

That said, Tehran is “firm and ready for different scenarios,” Baeidinejad said.
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Translation: Iran knows it's the neoclowns trying to draw the USA into war against Iran using the UK. President Trump knows it's the neoclowns trying to draw him into war against Iran using the UK. The admirals and generals of the US military know it's the neoclowns. And they all know this is now happening due to the neoclowns' inability to start a war with Russia in the 2015-2018 period.

No one is fooled in the slightest. Send them back too, Mr. President.

As for the recent troops movements into Saudi Arabia, that probably has far more to do with the fact that the Saudis are losing their war with the Houthis in Yemen than anything to do with Iran.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/07/certain-forces.html


Iran hints at ship swap with UK amid de-escalation efforts

Hassan Rouhani spoke after Iraqi president’s visit to Iran at request of UK defence ministry

Iran has indicated it wants to de-escalate the British-Iranian crisis, hinting at swapping two captured tankers.

“We do not seek the continuation of tension with some European countries,” Iran’s president, Hassan Rouhani, said on Wednesday during a weekly cabinet meeting. “If Britain steps away from the wrong actions in Gibraltar, they will receive an appropriate response from Iran.”

He was speaking after a two-day visit by Iraq’s prime minister, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, who had revealed he went to Tehran this week partly at the request of the UK defence secretary, Penny Mordaunt, to negotiate the release of the captured British-flagged ship Stena Impero seized by Iranian forces in the strait of Hormuz last Friday.

The Iraqi prime minister revealed that on Monday “there was a phone call with the British defence minister to discuss bilateral ties, the regional crisis, and efforts of de-escalation and decreasing tensions in the region, and also the existing crisis covering the confiscated ships”. Iraq is a strong opponent of US sanctions against Iran.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-ship-swap-with-uk-amid-de-escalation-efforts

Silas said:
The American people do not want any kind of conflict with Iran (or anyone else in the Middle-East). This conflict is being pushed by Jewish neocons and Zionists who control our government and own our politicians.
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I partially agree, I think many Americans are getting tired of engaging in endless war, even the usual suspects are speaking out more and more against this.
 
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Ahmed. said:
InshAllah!

It's just common sense what you wrote there bro, I'm surprised that the incredible evil nature of this regime escapes the eyes of any!

But may be not surprised by @CuriousonTruth view as he's always had 'odd' views :)
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Mashallah.
I'm not big on Saudi Arabia either due to their love of America and oil etc. however the Iranian regime is far worse.
 
hamzasyyf said:
Mashallah.
I'm not big on Saudi Arabia either due to their love of America and oil etc. however the Iranian regime is far worse.
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I'm no big fan of Saudi either but Allah has given the middle East oil for a reason. It's what keeps our holy lands safe from invasion in these days when Muslims are powerless and kuffar are the superpower. If it weren't for Saudi oil business with West then Saudi would have been invaded by now

Also Saudi and Arab gulf countries having a strong economy is essential to keeping Iran from grabbing Yemen... and Iran's actions are all calculated to debilitate these Sunni countries to further it's evil machinations
 
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Ahmed. said:
I'm no big fan of Saudi either but Allah has given the middle East oil for a reason. It's what keeps our holy lands safe from invasion in these days when Muslims are powerless and kuffar are the superpower. If it weren't for Saudi oil business with West then Saudi would have been invaded by now

Also Saudi and Arab gulf countries having a strong economy is essential to keeping Iran from grabbing Yemen... and Iran's actions are all calculated to debilitate these Sunni countries to further it's evil machinations
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Yes, while the oil making the holy lands safe from invasion is good, I care a lot about the environment and sadly oil is also doing damage to this world that Allah has given us. I at least hope Iran never get their grubby hands on pure Mecca and Medina like I've heard them talk about.
 
hamzasyyf said:
Yes, while the oil making the holy lands safe from invasion is good, I care a lot about the environment and sadly oil is also doing damage to this world that Allah has given us. I at least hope Iran never get their grubby hands on pure Mecca and Medina like I've heard them talk about.
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This world is temporary brother and not going to last for billions of years more like the kuffar think. We have a few hundred years at the most.... so as long as fracking is avoided, oil production is fine! Let's 'milk' this earth for all its worth!
 
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Another escalation, Israel is now attacks Iranian targets in Iraq.



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Israel reportedly attacked Iranian targets in Iraq on July 19, the London-based Sharq al-Awsat newspaper reported Tuesday morning.

According to the report, the July 19 attack in Iraq was "carried out by an Israeli F-35 aircraft" at a military base in the Diyala province in eastern Iraq, 80 km from the Iranian border, killing some 40 members from the Islamic Republic's Revolutionary Guards, Iraqi sources said.

Western diplomats told the Arabic international newspaper that Israel has expanded its scope of attacks against Iran in Syria and Iraq.

The Israeli Air Force reportedly attacked an Iranian missile plant for the second time this month in a military camp northeast of Baghdad.

The sources said the attack was aimed at a shipment of ballistic missile launchers that were recently transported from Iran to Iraq as well as positions of Revolutionary Guard officers and members of the Iraqi Badr Brigade loyal to Iran.

Camp Ashraf, as it is known, is considered one of the largest military bases in eastern Iraq, with more than 4,000 troops and underground facilities that store rockets, tanks and heavy artillery. The camp is the headquarters of the Badr Brigades, the largest pro-Tehran force in Iraq.

The diplomatic sources also reportedly confirmed that Israel was behind last week's attacks on Dara and Tel al-Khara in Syria that killed at least six Iranians in order to "prevent Iran from taking control of this strategic hill.

 
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Another update

Iran warns Israel against aiding US mission in Strait of Hormuz

Tehran says it will have the right to take action if Israel becomes involved in the US-led naval mission

Iran has warned Israel against aiding a United States-led maritime mission in the Gulf, saying it reserved the right to confront such a "clear threat".

The comments on Friday by foreign ministry spokesman Abbas Mousavi came after Israeli media reported that Israel's Minister of Foreign Affairs Israel Katz had told colleagues in a closed-door meeting on Tuesday that the country was assisting the US-led coalition with intelligence and other unspecified aid.

Israeli officials have declined to confirm or deny the reports about Israel's involvement in the naval mission that the US has said is needed to "combat Iranian aggression" in the strategically important Strait of Hormuz.

In a statement, Mousavi said Iran would view any support offered by Israel as a "clear threat to its security, sovereignty, and territorial integrity, and a crisis-provoking and destabilising element" in the region.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran reserves the right to counter this threat and defend its territory within the framework of the country's deterrence and defensive policy, and will have no hesitation in translating it into action as part of its defensive policies," he added.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...ng-mission-strait-hormuz-190809113216286.html
 
Ahmed. said:
I'm no big fan of Saudi either but Allah has given the middle East oil for a reason. It's what keeps our holy lands safe from invasion in these days when Muslims are powerless and kuffar are the superpower. If it weren't for Saudi oil business with West then Saudi would have been invaded by now

Also Saudi and Arab gulf countries having a strong economy is essential to keeping Iran from grabbing Yemen... and Iran's actions are all calculated to debilitate these Sunni countries to further it's evil machinations
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Allah has given more resources to USA, Russia, Norway, Venezuela, South America, India, South Africa, Australia, Brazil, etc.

Your beliefs are religious superstitions and your general ignorance at its finest. As is your horrible lack of knowledge in Geopolitics. At this point there is no point in trying to correct you. All I can say is do some research before blindly accepting whatever your imam/mufti/whatever tells you.

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hamzasyyf said:
Yes, while the oil making the holy lands safe from invasion is good, I care a lot about the environment and sadly oil is also doing damage to this world that Allah has given us. I at least hope Iran never get their grubby hands on pure Mecca and Medina like I've heard them talk about.
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The oil wealth goes straight to US petrol dollar system. As for keeping holy lands "safe", how is a regime that broke rules of fighting in Makkah, to kill tens of thousands of muslims to capture it, lost it, then negotiated with the British to re-administer it be considered a valid "guardian". 95% of all islamic heritage and historical sites have been destroyed by the barbaric, illiterate, savage bedouins.

I don't think Iran is the right candidate to replace Saudis, but Turkey for sure one day should re-capture Hejaz. If they need an alliance with Iran, Iran can have Eastern portions of Arabian Peninsula.

But KSA and UAE needs to be removed from the map.
 
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Another update

Israel blamed for blast in Iran-backed militia weapons depot in Baghdad

Unnamed security source tells Saudi-owned daily that the war that Israel has been waging against Iran In Syria has now spread to Iraq

A former Iraqi deputy prime minister on Wednesday indicated Israel was responsible for a massive explosion earlier this week in a weapons depot controlled by an Iranian-backed Shiite militia in Baghdad.

“We believe they are weapons we were holding onto for a neighboring state and they were targeted by an oppressive colonial state on the basis of a treasonous Iraqi act,” former deputy prime minister Baha al-Araji wrote on Twitter on Tuesday.

An unnamed security source on Wednesday also told the Asharq al-Awsat, an Arabic-language newspaper published in London, that Israel was behind the strike.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iraqi...r-blast-in-iran-backed-militia-weapons-depot/
 
Salaam

Another update



A powerful bloc in Iraq’s parliament called on Monday for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, following a series of airstrikes targeting Iran-backed Shiite militias in the country that have been blamed on Israel.

The Fatah Coalition said it holds the United States fully responsible for the alleged Israeli aggression, “which we consider to be a declaration of war on Iraq and its people.” The coalition is a parliament bloc representing Iran-backed paramilitary militias known as the Popular Mobilization Forces.

The coalition’s statement came a day after a drone strike in the western Iraqi town of Qaim killed a commander with the forces — the latest in strikes apparently conducted by Israel against the Iranian-backed militias in Iraq. It added that U.S. troops are no longer needed in Iraq.

The Shiite militiamen, meanwhile, held a funeral procession in Baghdad for the commander killed Sunday.
“There is no greater God but God!” the mourners shouted as they marched behind a banner with the words “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.” Some trampled on an American flag as they marched.

Anger is mounting in Iraq following a spate of mysterious airstrikes that have targeted military bases and weapons depot belonging to Iran-backed militias. The drone attacks have not been claimed by any side but U.S. officials have said Israeli was behind at least one of the attacks that killed two Iranian commanders on July 19.

The Shiite militias have blamed the attacks on Israel but hold its ally the United States ultimately responsible. The attacks are threatening to destabilize security in Iraq, which has struggled to remain neutral in the conflict between Washington and Tehran.

“These strikes won’t break us, they’ll make us stronger,” the militias’ Lt. Gen. Hussein Abed Muttar told The Associated Press at the funeral.

Along with the commander, another member of the Shiite militia was also killed in the drone attack on Sunday evening near the Qaim border crossing with Syria. The attack targeted vehicles belonging to the Hezbollah Brigades faction, also known as Brigade 45, which operate under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned Shiite militias.

U.S. forces withdrew from Iraq in 2011, but returned in 2014 at the invitation of the government to help battle the Islamic State group after it seized vast areas in the north and west of the country, including Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul. A U.S.-led coalition provided crucial air support as Iraqi forces regrouped and, together with the PMF, drove IS out in a costly three-year campaign.

The U.S. maintains about 5,000 troops in Iraq, and some groups say there’s no longer a justification for them to be there now that IS has been defeated.

“While we reserve the right to respond to these Zionist attacks, we hold the international coalition, particularly the United States, fully responsible for this aggression which we consider a declaration of war on Iraq and its people,” the statement by the Fatah Coalition said.

Iraqi President Barham Saleh hosted a meeting later Monday that included the prime minister and parliament speaker as well as PMF militia leaders to discuss the recent attacks.

A statement issued after the meeting avoided blaming the drone attacks on any specific country, but described it as a “blatant act of aggression” aimed at dragging the PMF away from its ongoing role of eradicating remnants of the Islamic State group.

Absent from the meeting were the leaders of two of the most powerful factions strongly allied to Iran, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and Qais al-Khazali. An official who attended the meeting said they were in Iran.

https://www.apnews.com/53a6e83ad61740d18efd957d8ccefb4b

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Israel has been blamed for a string of attacks against Iranian-allied forces in three countries over the weekend. That's raised tensions across the Middle East.

Early on Monday, three Israeli air strikes reportedly hit a base belonging to a Palestinian group in Lebanon - in the town of Qusaya near the border with Syria.

Those attacks came a day after two Israeli drones caused damage in Lebanon's capital, Beirut.

One hit a building housing the media office of Iranian-backed Hezbollah in the city's southern suburbs. Another Israeli drone exploded in the air, in the same area.

And on Saturday, Israeli forces carried out drone attacks in Iraq and Syria. One is reported to have killed a fighter from Iraq's Popular Mobilisation Forces. Israel did not respond to accusations that its assault killed at least one fighter from Iraq's Popular Mobilisation Forces.

But Benjamin Netanyahu says an operation in Damascus which triggered Syrian anti-aircraft fire, was to prevent a drone attack on Israel by Iran. So, why is Benjamin Netanyahu escalating tension with Tehran?

 
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Another update

Iran sets 2 conditions for talks with US

Trump: We are not looking for leadership change in Iran



Chief of Staff of the President of Iran Mahmoud Vaezi has said that Washington “must build confidence and lift sanctions” imposed on the country before starting dialogue with Tehran, the New Khaleej reported yesterday.

Vaezi denied reports that a meeting was to be held between Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and his American counterpart Donald Trump.

“We, the Iranian government and the foreign ministry, are exploiting all efforts to lift the sanctions imposed on Tehran,” Vaezi said, adding: “Holding a meeting just for a meeting does not solve the problem.”

The US should correct its “mistakes” with regards imposing sanctions on Iran if it wants to resume relations with the Islamic Republic, Vaezi said.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190829-iran-sets-2-conditions-for-talks-with-us/
 
Salaam

Its looks likely that Iran played a role in attacking the Saudi oil installations so Ill post this here.

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#Houthi rebels in #Yemen took credit for the #SaudiOilAttacks, but an in-depth look reveals the making of an alarming new pattern.

A barrage of projectiles and drone strikes damaged two separate crude oil processing and stabilisation facilities belonging to Saudi Aramco in the east of Saudi Arabia. The resulting destruction of the infrastructure cut daily oil production by 5.7 million barrels, amounting to 5 percent of the global daily output.

Houthi rebels in Yemen took credit for the attacks, but a more in-depth look at the motive and capacity reveals that this is, in fact, the third such assault against Saudi Arabia’s energy infrastructure, which shows that an alarming new pattern is taking shape.


More comment.

4GW goes geo-strategic

I'm not the only one who has noticed that the Yemeni drone attacks on Saudi Arabia have significantly changed the geo-strategic situation as well as the prospects for future war:

The devastating attack on Saudi oil facilities by drones and missiles not only transforms the balance of military power in the Middle East, but marks a change in the nature of warfare globally.

On the morning of 14 September, 18 drones and seven cruise missiles – all cheap and unsophisticated compared to modern military aircraft – disabled half of Saudi Arabia’s crude oil production and raised the world price of oil by 20 per cent.

This happened despite the Saudis spending $67.6bn (£54bn) on their defence budget last year, much of it on vastly expensive aircraft and air defence systems, which notably failed to stop the attack. The US defence budget stands at $750bn (£600.2bn), and its intelligence budget at $85bn (£68bn), but the US forces in the Gulf did not know what was happening until it was all over.

Excuses advanced for this failure include the drones flying too low to be detected and unfairly coming from a direction different from the one that might have been expected. Such explanations sound pathetic when set against the proud boasts of the arms manufacturers and military commanders about the effectiveness of their weapons systems.

Debate is ongoing about whether it was the Iranians or the Houthis who carried out the attack, the likely answer being a combination of the two, but perhaps with Iran orchestrating the operation and supplying the equipment. But over-focus on responsibility diverts attention from a much more important development: a middle ranking power like Iran, under sanctions and with limited resources and expertise, acting alone or through allies, has inflicted crippling damage on theoretically much better-armed Saudi Arabia which is supposedly defended by the US, the world’s greatest military super-power.
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This is potentially very good news for humanity, in much the same way and for much the same reason that Minutemen defeating British regulars with cheap, readily-available musketry was good news. Historian Carroll Quigley observed that the democratization of weaponry tended to expand human freedom, while the monopolization of it tended to reduce it.

Today, it is the common man who has to fear the SWAT raid or the drone strike ordered by the rich and powerful. Tomorrow, the rich and the powerful will be every bit as vulnerable to the common man who is wronged by their actions.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/09/4gw-goes-geo-strategic.html
 
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Another update.

Israel and the West Do Not Have the Means to Counter Iranian Technology

The following is a translation of today’s Israel’s News 12 headline article. The article explores the lessons delivered by the recent attack on Saudi oil facilities. Though I, like many other commentators, am not convinced that the attack had anything to do with Iran, the attack showed that Iran’s weaponry is likely superior to the West’s ability to mount an effective defence.

Israeli writer Nir Dvori points out that the attack took place 650 km inside Saudi territory. “It proved measured Power Utilization - Sending two types of weapons that achieved accurate hits.” It also demonstrated superb intelligence capability – “both in identifying and selecting targets and in selecting the attack route and the military.” Apparently, neither the cruise missiles nor the drones were detected and no attempt was made to intercept them before the attack. Which really means that despite the Saudis’ multi- billion dollar investment in Western weaponry and air defense systems, their sky is far from protected.

In the last few years Israel has prioritized its efforts to counter Iran’s ballistic and drone projects. It seems Israel knew what it had to dread. The recent attack on the Saudi oil industry proved that the West has not developed an adequate response to Iranian precision missiles, slow moving cruise missiles or drone technology. This alone explains why, despite Israel’s persistent threats to attack Iran directly, it has been reluctant to do so. Israel knows how vulnerable it is and well understands the possible dramatic consequences of such an attack. Israel knows that although its anti missile system, which cost the American taxpayers billions of dollars, may be somewhat effective against German V2 ballistic technology, its system is ineffective against what Iran has at their disposal.

This helps explain why Israel wants America and NATO to attack Iran on its behalf. It may explain why Israel might consider doing whatever it can to provoke such a conflict- everything from intensive Lobby pressure to possible false flag operations.

Donald Trump seems miraculously to have gathered how volatile the situation is. As a consequence, he exited his prime hawk, John Bolton. Might Trump find himself booted out of his 1600 Pennsylvania Ave as a result of his reluctance to fight Israel’s war against Iran?

The character, uniqueness and success of the Iranian attack - worries Israel and the world

By Nir Dvori

https://www.mako.co.il/

The Iranian attack on Saudi oil facilities was of great significance and is of particular concern [to Israel]. The attack was [the first of its kind] and proved that the Iranians are capable and possess both the knowledge and the ability to hurt and cut [Saudi] oil production by nearly fifty percent. At the same time, the Saudis have already begun to rebuild the buildings damaged by the Iranian bombing

The attack on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia has been a warning for the West and Israel - the effects of this attack are extremely concerning. This [technological] ability that can be used against Israel requires that [Israel] prepare its security system to respond to such a threat. Israeli officials analyzed the outcome of the attack and reached several conclusions : The attack demonstrated both impressive design and execution, the results were painful and cut Saudi oil production by 50%, and likely affected gas production as well.

The attacks were carried out with only two weapon types :The first were 7 Quds cruise missiles driven by a Czech jet engine, 3 of which fell before they reached their target; the second weapons were 18 suicide drones, an Iranian replica of the "Rafi" – an Israeli suicide drone.

The attack was significant on a few levels:

The attack was carried out at a relatively long range - at a distance of 650 km.????

It proved measured Power Utilization - Sending two types of weapons that each achieved accurate hits.

Iran has also demonstrated its intelligence capability - both in identifying and selecting targets and in selecting the attack route and its execution.

Apparently neither the cruise missiles nor the drones were detected and no attempt was made to intercept them before the attack.

Iran’s ability to penetrate the Saudi air defense system, despite the billions of dollars spent and deployed to defend the area, was shown by its failure against the small, slow-moving assault weapons.

Impressive and unprecedented impact accuracy of less than 3 meters. The fragments of the Iranian cruise missiles have been identified as among the derivatives of the 55-KH missiles that Ukraine delivered to Iran in 2001.

The nature of the Iranian attack has embarrassed the Western intelligence community. It turned out that Iran, a country with average technological capabilities, has developed medium and long range missiles that are accurate and effective. This basically undermines the very existence of the regulatory bodies which assumes that denying access to technology can impede, or prevent such technologies being obtained.

The attack is proof of Iran’s operational potential that relies on technological capabilities, intelligence infrastructure and coordination, leading to the conclusion that the Western monopoly on precision-guided armaments has evaporated. The countries of the entire region and Israel have learned a lesson: Discovery and interception systems do not provide a proper countermeasure to new regional threats.

It is necessary to deal with cruise missiles, slow drones and hovercraft. The ranges reached by Iran this time - 650 km - would allow damage to any point in Israel from western Iraq.

https://gilad.online/writings/2019/...-have-the-means-to-counter-iranian-technology

 
Salaam

Another update

Saudi Arabia gives 'green light' for talks with Iran

Official in Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi's office confirms Baghdad has channels with both sides and is seeking to arrange meeting

Saudi Arabia has given a green light to Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi to arrange a meeting with Iran as a first step towards de-escalating tensions in the region, Middle East Eye can reveal.

Abbas al-Hasnawi, an official in the prime minister's office, told MEE on Tuesday that Abdul Mahdi was mediating between the leaderships in Riyadh and Tehran and had communicated each side's conditions for talks to the other.

Hasnawi was speaking after a spokesperson for the Iranian government said on Monday that Saudi Arabia had sent messages to Iranian President Hassan Rouhani via “the leaders of some countries”.

Hasnawi confirmed to MEE that Abdul Mahdi was acting as an intermediary with the aim of easing tensions since attacks on Saudi oil facilities blamed on Iran earlier this month appeared to have tilted the Gulf rivals closer to open conflict.

'Channels with both sides'

"The Iraqi leadership has channels with both sides. Our Sunni brothers [in the government] liaise with the Saudis and our Shia brothers with the Iranians," he said.

"The Saudis have conditions before the negotiations process starts and the same with Iranians. We have liaised these conditions to each side. It is not an easy task to get together two opposite sides in terms of their ideology, sect and their alliances in the region."

Hasnawi said Abdul Mahdi had called for a meeting between Saudi Arabia and Iran which the Iraqi government would supervise and mediate, with Baghdad as its preferred venue.

"The Saudis have given the green light in this matter, and Mr Abdul Mahdi is working on it," said Hasnawi, adding that Saudi Arabia, including Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, had "calmed their rhetoric" in recent days.

Hasnawi said that the US government had also approved negotiations between the two sides. Falih Alfayyadh, Iraq's advisor for national security, is currently in Washington to discuss a timeline for the meetings, he added.

"If there will be a potential deal in the region that includes Yemen, Syria and Iraq, the Americans have no problem with that," Hasnawi said.

Abdul Mahdi was last week in Jeddah for talks with the Saudi crown prince.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-saudi-arabia-gives-green-light-for-talks-with-Iran
 

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