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Is there evidence for the existence of God?

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HeiGou said:
That because you all evolved from monkeys. I evolved from horseshoe crabs. Tough shells you know. If you weren't so squishy on the outside, you'd be tough too.

Power to Arthropods! Death to Invertebrates! Boil anyone with a backbone - see if they like it!
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lol wat the? no more redbull 4 u!!!
 
http://www.thestoneage.org/

His pen-name, Harun Yahya, is formed from the names "Harun" (Aaron) and "Yahya" (John) in the esteemed memory of the two Prophets who struggled against infidelity.

Many works of Harun Yahya are being currently translated into English, French, German, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Arabic, Portuguese, Albanian, Serbo-Croat (Bosnian), Polish, Urdu, Indonesian, Kazakh, Azeri, Malay and Malayalam. The target is to translate all books into English and many other languages in the near future, and thus to make them available for the benefit of all people.

The common point in all the writer's works is that all the topics covered by his works are in full agreement with the Qur'an, and strongly affirmed by Qur'anic understanding. Even the topics addressed by science and mostly considered complicated and confusing are narrated very lucidly and explicitly in the books of Harun Yahya. For this reason, these books appeal to everyone, from every age and social group.
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HeiGou said:
Isn't it interesting that Muslims rely so heavily on Christians to "refute" Darwinism? It really brings home to me how knowledge-poor the Muslim world is. I was expecting an Islam-based school of anti-science, but instead all I find is recycled Christian apologetics. It is not just that there are almost no Muslim scientists of note, and unfortunately there are so very few, it is that there are no Muslims who reject science who are capable of doing so in an informed and knowledgeable way. It is an amazing indictment of the Muslim education systems of the world.
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Have you checked out the website Marge1 put up?
We have loads of people to rely on and Harun Yahya is one of them. Just cos someone gives an example of a Christian it doesn't mean we can't live without him/her, it just backs up our claim by using another religion so you know that muslims arn't the only ones who Disagree with Darwin in that way. There is no reason why we shouldn't respect and accept the opinion of a Christian after all it is the closest religion to Islam.
 
To all the atheist on this forum

Does Science disprove the existance of God?
 
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Ayesha Rana said:
Have you checked out the website Marge1 put up?
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I have some experience of HY's works although I can't claim to have read them all. Or even that many.

We have loads of people to rely on and Harun Yahya is one of them. Just cos someone gives an example of a Christian it doesn't mean we can't live without him/her, it just backs up our claim by using another religion so you know that muslims arn't the only ones who Disagree with Darwin in that way. There is no reason why we shouldn't respect and accept the opinion of a Christian after all it is the closest religion to Islam.
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I suspect Judaism is a lot closer to Islam than Christianity. But it is not important. The question is whether HY is relying on re-hashed Christian apologetics or whether he has done his own research. It is an interesting question because you would expect science and Islam to clash in other places as well. Does anyone know of any other issue where Islam and scientists have profound disagreements? Evolution is almost the last issue Christians are willing to fight on. So does Islam have its own tradition of disagreement? Presumably a lot of historical and archaeology so let's not count those.
 
Not that I know of. Do many scientists argue that science can remove the need to rely on God for explanations about the natural world?
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then how can you be so sure that God does not exist?
 
does science disprove the existance of God?
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The scientific data does not support the existence of God.

then how can you be so sure that God does not exist?
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Only religion offers absolute proof which is not supported by mainstream scientific data.
 
HeiGou said:
Not that I know of. Do many scientists argue that science can remove the need to rely on God for explanations about the natural world?
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Well, many scientists start believing in God when they realize how complex and detailed everything is so at first probably but when they start reasearching more deeply they change their minds.
By the way are you an Atheist? cos that post was addressed to atheists.
 
Ayesha Rana said:
Well, many scientists start believing in God when they realize how complex and detailed everything is so at first probably but when they start reasearching more deeply they change their minds.
By the way are you an Atheist? cos that post was addressed to atheists.
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Hei-gou is an atheist but mashAllah he seems so openminded.I've started making dua that he actually enters islam one day, i think its more then possible :). May Allah give hei-gou hidayyat inshaAllah!!! ameen.

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Abd'Majid said:
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Hei-gou is an atheist but mashAllah he seems so openminded.I've started making dua that he actually enters islam one day, i think its more then possible :). May Allah give hei-gou hidayyat inshaAllah!!! ameen.

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Ameen
 
HeiGou said:
Not that I know of. Do many scientists argue that science can remove the need to rely on God for explanations about the natural world?
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Actually, how many times have u noticed that scientists are WRONG, and that they keep changing their opinions, whereas the Quran is fixed and is always right.:)
 
Actually, how many times have u noticed that scientists are WRONG, and that they keep changing their opinions, whereas the Quran is fixed and is always right.
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That's because religion tries to offer absolute proof and science can never give an absolute proof. take gravity for example, being falsifiable and subject to change as we disover more about the natural world, theory of gravity is subject to change.
 
root said:
That's because religion tries to offer absolute proof and science can never give an absolute proof. take gravity for example, being falsifiable and subject to change as we disover more about the natural world, theory of gravity is subject to change.
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:peace: peace

That is quite interesting. So your saying you think people have not fully understood the law of gravity yet?

:peace: peace :)​
 
Greetings,

Muhammad Waqqas said:
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Now if you JUST ONCE read the lame logics he has provided, you'll realize theses people are not worth debating with. Even if my grandma would have read, even she would have realized it.
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Here's just a small sample of the insults this new member has decided to fling in the general direction of atheists.

Does anyone think he's doing his cause any favours with this debating style of denial and aggression?

Peace
 
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Asma1 said:
Actually, how many times have u noticed that scientists are WRONG, and that they keep changing their opinions, whereas the Quran is fixed and is always right.:)
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How many times have you noticed that scientists are right and they have solved problems? Science is not infallible and does not always get things right, but it moves in the general direction of "more rightness" all the time. Look at medicine and airplanes for example. How many lives have scientists saved with modern medicine? A colleague of mine over the weekend had to go to hospital with blood poisoning from an infected wound. 50 years ago she would have died. Whatever cheap shots you make at scientists for being wrong from time to time, the fact is science works and it works reliably. So when you're sick are you going to trust your doctors?
 
Abd'Majid said:
That is quite interesting. So your saying you think people have not fully understood the law of gravity yet?
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I am not Root, but yes. People have not yet understood gravity yet. Gravity is one of the four fundamental forces in physics. There are questions about how they arise, how they work, and how they are related to each other. Quantum physics, for instance, proposes a "graviton" like a photon but for gravity. WE know next to nothing about gravitation radiation for instance. A lot of work needs to be done yet.
 
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