You, on the other hand spend your days praying 5 times, obeying rules about what to eat, what to wear, what to do when you go to the bathroom and how to behave in general.
If Allah exists then you are doing exactly what he required you to do and you should be proud.
If Allah exists I have nothing to fear because I was not convinced of it but I have done nothing wrong as a human to feel guilty.
My morals don't come from Allah but I can guarantee you any God would be proud of what I've done.
You're starting to freak me out, you're saying the world is not just but this world (according to your beliefs) was created by Allah.
Did Allah made it imperfect on purpose?
Is it a test?
Am I missing something?
Is it all a preparation for the afterlife?
You seem to carry a lot of hate in you, do you think that gives you extra points towards the after life?
I'm a westerner who doesn't know about living in poverty, or living with disabilities or living under an oppressive regime. Trying to find if God exists has no relation with any discontent about my personal life.
Being an atheist (unlike what you might think) doesn't make your life meaningless nor makes your morals weaker than the morals of a theist.
My quest to find God will continue, in the meantime I'll keep enjoying all that life has to offer.
If you spent already years, I don’t understand why your saying the basic stuff – like post 20, is it a test, and saying your morals don’t need to come from Allah and post 13 where you said I’ll keep enjoying life. I like to cover some points:
Lying about life:
1. Majority of people in this world don’t get to choose how they live-they don’t have careers, but jobs that they have to do (not career in terms of what profession they would like to go into).
2. All the economists are already pointing to a huge crash-people are already planning to survive that by hoarding gold -so you need to quite lying to yourself. Whatever is going to happen no Muslim wants to see, but it is going to happen, all Muslims or non-Muslims countries will be affected
3. This is also evidence by what has been written about the Muslims living in the aftermath-there will be conflict (people won’t be using passports, or border control), this is where at this time a group of people will be told that the Dajjal is here -the flee back thinking he has truly arrived (but then realise he hasn’t, but then he really does arrive (the Anti-Christ) -here think for a moment, if you told anyone now the Dajjal is here, they wouldn’t flee and take it seriously -but this is the reality of the situation-they understand where they are
4. What is happening, whilst you waste time, is that (not by the hands of Muslims), these countries around the world will finish -there won’t be TV’s, internet (the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him and the Dajjal won’t be giving interviews), so people if they chose to listen before the Major Signs of the Day of Judgement start, will accept the coming of the Dajjal and the return of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him -so no matter where you are in this world, you know and accept where you are at this point in time.
5. Living through the Major Signs of the Day of Judgement is no picnic-people will have respite after the Dajjal, but no Prophet would ever tell people to build a state and look for the life of this world -as the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as stated the signs will follow after the other -when you know the Dajjal is here, the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him is returning and when he arrives back, you know that the Gog and Magog will be coming etc.
6. If people don’t repent now, they will find it harder to do so afterwards, as they will get caught up in events and with the lack of discipline -will fight and loot each other-just as criminals don’t think of others.
Test
1. When all the Prophets came, they told people to repent straightaway -it is actually the media (and I do accept that the way some Muslims have been trying to explain things to Atheists), make it look like it is something that no one can believe. No Prophet ever told people we are going to have a conference and I’ll get back to you-no as soon as they were told of their Prophet status-they told people to repent straightaway. You don’t know when you are going to die and you don’t require a particular education to understand-even old, children (as long as not disabled in away that stops their understanding). It is only now -which I 100% disagree with, making it look like Atheists think more-which they do not-majority of them don’t have an education -I remember where they were in agreement with Stepben Hawking-but when he said the Universe was always around =-the Atheists wish to disagree, also majority have not read the paperwork on evolution etc-so how can they understand the science-they are just joining with anyone who says anything that goes along with what they want to say-here they are wrongdoers-sinful people, as they already elevated their own vain desires and it is only what how people have been talking-essentially fooling themselves, into thinking they are something different, complicated people. When are not, we are simple people, living simple lives, we don’t do much in this world, but try to help others.
2. The West has demonstrated on what they would do without Islam. Allah in his infinite wisdom has shown how far removed they are-look at even transgender-clearly telling Muslims they only accept things that make sense-but clearly being told to accept transgender-giving drugs to children. What they want is to say that everyone was assigned their “sex” by a Doctor, and that genitals doesn’t tell you if you’re a male or female. Here -how an earth does this make any sense-and you say people only accept what they understand to be true. I understand that a lot of people don’t agree-but I also wish to show this as like atheism you are being led astray-you are not independent. You have been fooled and always have been.
3. Just as the Governments don’t make enough money, they have fooled people in making money, by sending old people to care homes and childcare etc. They have turned what is essentially a family matter to a money making issue.
4. Satan does exist and he has done a good job on you and others. They say they are free-but free to do what-what have you done which is so free-what does free mean?? You claim that Muslims are required to follow specific rules-failing to accept that this is the way of life-nothing oppressive about this. Muslims wash the deceased bodies-what to you do personally?? A Muslim Man has more responsibilities on average-taking care of sisters, wife, children etc.
5. It is shown by how many studies that Atheists are less likely to give to charity-why is this? As they are selfish.
Conceited self
1. You think you are more compassionate than God, do you think you treat people better-when you lie to them -as you lie here, I think your true purpose is coming here thinking of saying things and causing people to have doubts-well that ain’t going to happen.
2. Evolution is a lie- all the cells can’t organise themselves and say you be the brain, you be the eye-they are fashioned by Allah in the womb and they grow. How can evolution explain a perfectly formed human male and female?? Some Atheists have actually said they don’t agree with Islam as they don’t believe brothers and sisters get married (but that was at the start and they didn’t live as people live like today-be a bit more respectful to each other), but there is no other way, a male couldn’t have been created in another part of the world and a perfectly formed female in the other and just happen to have the right genital parts that fit to procreate-that is foolish to think otherwise-anyway Scientists have already said evolution doesn’t explain everything (that is non-Muslims saying that)
3. You think the signs that you see are not important-then you are arrogant, where you trivialise things, just like people when they say, it’s only rain. Who on earth do you think you are to say that with Earth -of all the abundance of food an life that Allah doesn’t exist. You live like in a swampy area- and you tell people to go along with you to keep you company-typical atheist-which is akin to teenage thinking-that they say people will understand who they are and they deem themselves to be complicated people when they are nothing of the sort. Atheists then spend more time learning facts (even though majority don’t have education formally) to try and appear sophisticated. Even a puddle has more depth than you.
4. People have plenty-you don’t need anymore signs. As Allah has also stated in the past, when the people received the table spreadth at the time of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him, he said if any of these people turned away, he would punish them like he has never punished anyone before. When Prophet Moses peace be upon him killed someone, Allah said to him he would have been in big trouble if he worshipped Allah once. Here I am saying the more stuff that you have, the worser your punishment will be. You don’t have to face things directly (just as we heed the warnings like the flood, the people of Aad and Thamud-it will be written on our records, we have heard of these things but didn’t heed the message), therefore every natural disaster that you see or hear around the world is written on your record.
5. Pharoah even rejected the signs and only repented when he was drowning-no Allah doesn’t have to bring another but an even massive star to earth and take it back for show-your pride is that important. Just as Satan, nothing he needs to be shown or hear to overcome his pride-his pride is not deserving that he needs to know more or see more.
6. This is where apostasy is applicable in Islam -I wouldn’t say today as people don’t learn enough about Islam-so you quote people leaving Islam-well everything they say is similar to basic stuff-we have refuted everything that they said and they are lying. But apostasy is for those that believed and those people who are saying childish levels like your points, don’t qualify -here Satan can’t say he doesn’t understand, this is where this is Allah’s world, and he has created the laws and allows us to kill those who murder, and those who turn away from religion, don’t need to hear anymore, and as the whole purpose of being in this world in to heed the signs and they have already done that. I have not come across any ex-Muslim as you call it who were true believers. Believers is a word that changes meaning, but it is about someone who accepts Allah has fact, just as the people turned away from the evil doers, and no matter their hardship, stood fast to Allah’s word at the time of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
7. You are not important in the hereafter when you go to hell, you don’t’ have any privacy-people like to quote, only God can judge me, Allah has given the rules, how can we forbid evil and enjoin what is good if we can’t say such and such if they do this is in error (this is what the Christians failed to do as well-as they wanted to be loved by each other).
8. This is where we have ample proof in this world and it is not hard for people to see either, the Atheist like to say they are kinder, but they have a problem with someone just saying they accept the One God, Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell. Even the Prophets in the past-they didn’t do anything else, people knew who they were and as soon as they said it they were opposed. This is as their own hatred towards good, even the homosexuals at the time of Prophet Lut peace be upon him said he is telling us to be pure. In today’s world they don’t speak directly and hide behind lies after lies and they fool themselves.
9. This is what people are trying to do though, they are trying to get something that even prositututes were not able to get -being accepted in society. Homosezuals, transgender etc, are lying, they have in the west able to do what they want- but they are not happy as when they walk down the street, they want people to mentally see them no different to straight people. Here they want you to change how you think. The fact is that even if everyone in the world accepted them, it would only take one Man to stand up and say they don’t agree, and they will be upset and complaining. They can’t have this anyway, as our test in this world is fair. If we believed in this -then we wouldn’t be tested in this world.
10. People think they are good, because they don’t commit major sins like murder, rape etc, but a lot of people are going to Hell, not because they done these things. Even if you have been murdered-you need to make sure that you accepted Allah -as why should Allah reward you for your pain, when you did not seek it from him??
11. Majority of problems in this world is that people are disrespectful -they got no discipline, this is the issue with bad behaviour, crime etc. It starts off simple as someone having anice object and you can’t keep your hands off it, you see people not wash their hands before eating. Manners is extremely important and need to be respectful. This actually why people fail-so simple, they don’t care like children at school, can’t be thothered wanted to have fun. Then only when it gets serious do they take it seriously – but what do you expect Allah to do, to keep putting you in life threatening situation?? People will complain the same on the last day, they wish they were told-they were told, but they didn’t listen. No one needs to come and shake you.
Allah and his rules
1. What you have to consider is that everyone has their place-it is easier to use Heaven as an example, no one in Heaven is in the same position as Allah. You can’t speak to Allah as he is one of you. He is All-knowing and All-Seeing – of course he knows everything he is God. Just because he knows everything, that doesn’t undermine our test as we work to our level.
2. Even a non-Muslim said this after look at Mecca-if there is a God, this is how he should be treated.
3. In heaven there is a similar structure as the Kaaba that angels go around. If they could they would go around Allah’s throne-but it is too big-this is a representative of Allah’s throne that we go around the Kaaba. Everyone is looking towards one direction -just as in Heaven they look towards Allah and on the Day of Judgement (not someone facing you, but forwards.
4. When you die, there is not freedom of thought or movement, as you only will be thinking of going to Hell if you don’t repent.
5. The Day of Judgement is where people will only care about their own record-your own parents won’t care about you, as everyone belongs to Allah-nothing to do with anyone else of where you go.
6. Even your parents would be siding with the Prophets on that Day even if they go to Hellfire -as the disbelievers follow the other, they will be blaming their leaders and asking for them to take a portion of their punishment-but they will not be helped.
7. Allah has taught us how to be with him -that is to pray to him- if he didn’t we would be confused of how to approach and speak to him, this worship is befitting to Allah and all the angels bow down to him.
8. All the beings know of his existence—where even in the Quran it is written that the ant spoke to tell the others to get out of the way, for Prophet Solomon peace be upon him was arriving. All the pets that people keep, will disown them, no animal is going to choose you -it is with Allah, then the Prophets, companions of the Prophets and the rest of the good people. No one is equal-you are not the same as the Prophets or other righteous people.
9. In heaven there is no democracy=Allah is in charge-just as with Prophets they are in charge, and when the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him comes back, we won’t be voting for him to be in charge-he is in charge. We will have the benefit of the Mahdi- but we don’t need to be taught about Islam all over again -as the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him has already taught us.
Differences between Islam, Christianity and Judaism
1. Muslims say we are servants of Allah, the Christians say they are children of God (but as Allah stated-why would he punish them if they are his children?) and the Jews say they are the chosen people (but Allah has provided the message for all-anyone can be believers)
2. The Christians and the Jews did not listen to their Prophets -this is why the Muslims are doing better, as we listened to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him (the Christians were still more fearful of the authorities than with Allah-regardless of the signs that were shown by Prophet Jesus peace be upon him-if the Muslims were there-we would have stood by him) and the Jews even said to the Prophet Moses peace be upon him we won’t do anything like fight when need to-and so they were left wandering around the desert.
3. The mark of a believer is a that they respect anyone who accepts Allah, the Day of Judgment, Paradise and Hell -the Muslims are I’m pleased to say hold people up in higher esteem when they agree that they believe in God. The Jews and the Christians don’t -this is where they do not worship God as he should. It is the same test that was failed by Satan. He prayed to Allah so many times, but as soon as he heard that Prophet Adam peace be upon him was to be created -he didn’t want him to do well. No believer should ever go against another when we as Muslims have clearly stated that we accepted all the Prophets, believe in the Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell.
4. The Christians as Prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him as stated in the Quran said of the idol worshippers it is of their love for each other. This is where the Christians hope that by asking people to look at them-being kind, then people would look at them more and be sucked in-this is also distorted as you see extreme examples of people helping someone and looking a their reaction-is is more on social media, but also by television programmes, you help do up someone’s house and then look at heir reaction and want them to say how kind you have been. Muslims when we give to charity aren’t asking for anyone to look at us-but to Allah. We say this is our duty, not to get people to like us or be our friend—we are formal in this regard, as we tell people we won’t be there for you on the Day of Judgement .
5. We have had a lot of Christians say to Muslims, that they were created more than to pray-but to do what?? Even the Jehovah witnesses believer that a select number will be I n Heaven ruling over people-this is bizarre and clearly self-serving. We are not running anything, we don’t run the planets the winds and people’s lives.
6. The jews used to treat Prophets badly-they even go so far as saying they need to test if someone is really a Prophet-how are they going to test one?? Here they don’t accept on average anyone who accepts God. If anyone says they believer in Allah, the Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell -then they have my respect-but here even though people knew the Prophets were the best of the people -they still didn’t want to accept Prophets as they were telling everyone else to repent-just as Prophet Jesus peace be upon him and Prophet Moses peace be upon him-Allah sent the signs even to tell Pharoah to repent. The other religions are made up by the help of Satan.
7. The Christians say we don’t believe in the same God, so what are they saying that the Prophet Moses peace be upon him isn’t the same as their Prophet who spoke to Phaorah?? The Prophet Noah pace be upon him is a different one to their Prophet who build the ark?? No Prophet ever said that Allah was a trinity or one of two etc-if it was that important, he would have said so. All the Prophets have warned of the coming of the Dajjal (the anti-christ)
8. Allah cannot have any children-how can they keep their own thoughts hidden?? How can there be truly another God if he needs to be created?? Allah is the Creator, the All-Knowing and All-Hearing, All-Seeing. He cannot die as there is nothing that can consume him. He didn’t have a son and to say he did is utter idolatry. Where people wish to worship just as Christians and Atheists do (to look at Buddhism etc) -when it is about them, instead of worshipping Allah.
9. As the Muslims did what the Christians and the Jews didn’t do, listen to the Prophets and we did that with Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him -this is also where people gave up alcohol and Muslims sorted out their behaviour (something that the Christians and the Jews at the time couldn’t do), ours has been perfected as we took heed. This is also a huge thing of what is happening today-people learnt of Allah, the Day of Judgement and Paradise and Hell (were even Jews are now wishing to say that Hell may not be real and that suicide is not a sin atimes -unless someone is mentally deficient-but suicide is a huge sin as that is arrogance as your saying that the value of your life is based on something bad happening to you-you gave up everything that Allah has given you because something or someone has committed evil-no one’s sins is huge enough to blot out the sun, it doesn’t define your life). This is where if you wished to live for 50, 100, 200 years etc, the only way you can live is by hearing the message of Islam-as Allah provides a fair test. Nothing can change that. The issue today is whilst they were told, they were increasing their sins, passing marriage laws for homosexuality, transgender etc- you are not that important that you think you can continue. People say they will recover like those in the Great depression and the World wars-I don’t know why they keep going back to that, as they didn’t openly accept bad things. Even you lie about living as you want-when research has already indicated, high mental health issues and youth problems-it hasn’t been better for females when they are still doing a lot of the work and more to get a job as well as raising children -they are not all doing that by choice. Suicide happening even on occasions that someone was bullying them over social media, people having sexual transmitted diseases -here you still going on about doing what you want -when even Science to understand sexually transmitted diseases have to compare groups of people who don’t have more than one partner -so they compare health around the world.
10. Anything goes attitude -anything that makes people happy, leave them to it. Does that mean no ones values is important that they should for example accept transgender?? There emotions are not important, just as those who identify with being an animal, or want to go through plastic surgery to have large backsides. You keep on teaching children It is important to do whatever makes you happy -this is not making people more happy. They are not more important to the Prophets, we would never take their word over the Prophets. How are you better than Prophet Jesus, Muhammad, Ibrahim, Moses, David, Solomon peace be upon them etc??
11. The atheists are fools, they are led to believe that they are “cultured” by just going around the world and trying anything, that not taking a side makes them be deemed as more better, that they are intelligent or nicer people -far from it. Please think that a lot of people are uncomfortable of standing up to help someone in the workplace-you are scared, and not willing to help as much people as you think you would in general. You lie to the Muslims that you are more free, but are far from it. Now you have cancel culture and more restricted.
12. This is where when the Atheists dies and the 2 angels come to question him, he will not know how to answer-all of his arrogance of thinking he doesn’t need to stand up for anything, agree with whatever make you happy, your own soul is stupid. That your own wouldn’t even agree with Allah.
13. You claim that you have done things that would make Allah agree with you -arrogance as doesn’t matter what good deeds people do, they will go to Hell if they didn’t accept Allah. Here, they do good deeds to be loved by people, so why would Allah reward you? As you didn’t’ look towards his reward in the first place, you wanted to make a big deal of yourself or of others then go and seek their help on the Day of Judgement-but you will get none and no one can help you. This is where care and love is not the same as a believer, were we accept that we are entrusted with children and providing to charity solely looking towards Allah to be pleased with us. This is again why the Muslims seem more formal, as we are not wasting people’s time, just as you would do if you were just telling people to sit and talk and have whatever good time you deem fit-people are not here to entertain you. This is why Muslims frown on those wasting people’s time, no actor or singer of yours etc, is gong to care about what they did in this world. It is not boring to pray to Allah -for people to say it is restrictive, more than ever just shows how childish level they are, thinking everything is about their vain desires. What are you left to teach your children?? What your favourite sone or movie used to be??
14. How can the Christians say Prophet Jesus peace be upon him is their saviour-he did not create the worlds, is not All-Hearing, All-Seeing. Allah is the Creator of the Worlds, Master of the Day of Judgement -he is not just a stage builder and behind-how on earth you can tell people to ignore the Lord who created everything and worship a Prophet who was born in this world instead? Are we Muslims being criticised for worshipping the Creator?? Islam has done what the Christians and Jews couldn’t do pass the message to the rest of the world-that started more after the wars-here Allah is Wise. Your not going to get another Prophet-Prophet Jesus peace be upon him will be coming back when all these countries are down-only remnants remaining. This is your best shot to repent if you don’t, there isn’t anything else That’s were all the laws and people increasing new ways of being wrongdoers-you are not that important that Allah needs to keep on giving you more time-climate change issues is actually Allah warning people. You are not in a comfortable position, if we Muslims are concerned, who the hell are you not to be??
There are plenty that I can go over, but I hope that it will be of benefit to anyone who reads this. I don’t always go online. I do re-iterate though, if you don’t accept God, wonder why your lying and portraying a carefree attitude when people are generally worried about the future, so why aren’t you teaching stuff of the economy and what people should be doing to help themselves immediately. We as Muslims now where we stand, whatever happens is a test, but if you don’t accept it, than your going to find it even more difficult with what -as far as I’m aware from a lot of economist-if there is an optimistic outlook please note it down. Wrongdoers always believer that things are going to continue anyway-and I think the only confidence that anyone has is this-that they think things will always continue. You don’t have to worry about space exploration-we humans ain’t going to be colonising and moving to other planets. But again, if you were so concerned, wouldn’t you be concentrating on helping your local community and the poor-this are serious difficult times, that Muslims have not asked for either -we do not wish for the Major signs of the Day of Judgement-only a fool would pray for such a thing, it is the toughest test. You are already full of indignation of accepting Allah, how are you going to accept was will be happening?? The Governments are just judging things by if anyone will stop them-but no one needs to do anything, as our tests will change to the Major Signs of the Day of Judgement -no one can change that. Whatever happens, is out of our hands. We are also worried as Muslims, if you don’t believer in Allah, then surely though you don’t have to lie and just say you going to live a good life be honest with yourself and other people-if your denying where countries are at (doesn’t matter which), and your denying these facts as well. The problems are much (regardless if someone wanted to build their version of utopia (regardless of conspiracy theories etc), you can’t move away from Islam and being taught. You will come to realise either in this world or the next, that you only had the benefit of this internet technology as the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him arrived in this world and Islam message spread-it wouldn’t be a fair test without it.
