Refuting the Jesus-worshipping Christians

[Marwan-Maroc]

I testify that God is the Most Great, there is no god but Him, The One without a second, He begets not nor was He begotten, and there are none comparable to Him.
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God Himself Witnesses that He is not Jesus nor is Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon) Him.

The Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran, clearly states that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God, and you have God questioning Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon) if he claimed he was god besides God while on earth (Quran), where Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon) answered, “Exalted are You!” (Quran).

So we have God in the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran questioning Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) if he claimed to be a god besides Him while on earth, clearly showing that, Jesus is not God and God is not Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him). And you have the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran asking, who could save Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) if God wanted to destroy him? None. God is the Best Protector, besides Him, there is no Protector nor Helper (Quran).

So, the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran clearly states that Jesus (Peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God. You have God in the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran making it crystal clear that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God.

P1:The Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran is from God.
P2: What the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran says, is True, since it’s from God.
P3: The Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran states that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God.
Conclusion: Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God.

Anyone saying that the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran is not from God (I seek refuge in God from the accursed devil) is an ignorant.

I know a thing is the case, a fact, a Truth, simply if the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran says so.

Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran is the Truth.

EVERYTHING it says, every single word, claim, event, anything it says, is True. And NOTHING in the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran is false, not a single letter.

So, the fact that the Quran says that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God, is enough to know that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is not God, and anyone who says that it isn’t enough that the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran alone says so, is not sure about the fact that Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran is from God, and he doubts it, thus, he is a disbeliever and not a believer, anyone doubting the fact that the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran is form God or isn’t 100% sure about it, is a kaffir.
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So what to do with these Jesus-worshippers, claiming to have visions of Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) and seeing him in their dreams or having him in them or in their life or whatever?

I’m not yet 100% sure but I will be one day.

It can be that these visions and experiences by these human-worshippers comes from Satan himself (I seek refuge in God from him and all his followers) or that they are from Jinns (dark-spirits) or other such entities.

One thing is for sure, it’s not God.

God wouldn’t ever come down to a human telling him “I am Jesus”. If you have a Jesus figure coming to you saying “I am God”, this is NOT God, this is something else, God would never take a human figure and come to you in a vision or dream as this human form saying this is Me, God.

Jesus is NOT God and God is NOT Jesus.

And this, God Witnesses to.

God is Aware.

 

[Marwan-Maroc]

God is the Greatest, God Alone and Only is worthy of worship, the Absolutely Existing, the Eternally Living, Who will never die, the Aware, The Truth, The Absolute Truth, there is no god but God, all praise is due to God, all thanks is due to God, all glory belongs to God, all honour belongs to God, God is the Most Glorious, God is the Most Good, God is the Most Wise, the Omnipotent, the Divine, the Holy, the Creator of all, God is the Greatest, God is the Greatest, God is the Greatest, God is the Greatest, God is the Greatest!!
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The Jesus-worshippers are disbelievers since they commit shirk (associating partners with God).

The Christians are pagans and disbelievers, except a few of them. Like the Hindus.

1. God is three in one.
2. Jesus is God.
3. God has a son (Jesus).
What is this?

Are these believers?

No.

And again, no!

Can these Christians who believe these falsehoods be compared to believing Muslims or be their equal? Not in the slightest. A Muslim is the highest and possibly the only Believer on the face of the earth, believing in the last final prophet and revelation of God and also confirming and believing in all the previous prophets and revelations of God, the other is a disbeliever aka the Christians.

“Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.” (The Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran)

Aka the Christians.

“Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah—my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.” (The Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran)

Aka the Christians.

By what the Christians themselves, most of them, believe, and what the Holy Glorious Magnificent Quran says about it, we Muslims must declare the Christians disbelievers.

God is the Greatest, there no god but God.

 

[Marwan-Maroc]

Only a dummy would believe the Christian nonsense.

How can Jesus (Peace and blessing of God be upon him) be God and be God's son simultaneously?

Lunatics. Human worshippers. Slanderers of God (by saying God has a son). Liars.

And who is more unjust than the one who invents a lie against God? (Quran).

Pastor Cliff, himself stated to that he worships a Jew aka Jesus (Peace and blessings of God be upon him). The Christan pig who said that Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings of God be upon him) himself wrote the Quran (I seek refuge in God from the accursed Satan).

The hellfire awaits him and his fellow Christian human worshippers.

To God is my Certain return, in God, I fear.

God is Aware.

There is no god but God.

 

[MaskedMufti]

This is a most interesting topic.

To add in the understanding of this, I think it is important to note that, in Rome at the time of Jesus, the term "son of a God" was used among the Romans. Some politiican would claim he was son of some God that they believed in as a political thing. I think it is very imporant to consider this sort of thing.

I am only trying to foster healthy dialog and of course I know I must be humble and know that I might be wrong. We should all be that way.

 

[Marwan-Maroc]

Praise be to God.

The Christians do not believe that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is the son of God in a political sense but in a literal sense, Exalted be God far above what they say.

And they say the gospels says so, but that doesn't mean anything, since the gospels have been changed and fabricated and corrupted, and none of the original gospel given to Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) exists today.

The entire Bible has been changed and corrupted, it is not valid today in any way form or shape, and forbidden it is to read it, and it ought to be burned or buried under the ground, if found, so it doesn't misguide others, since it contains falsehood, a lot of it.

 

[MaskedMufti]

Praise be to God.

The Christians do not believe that Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) is the son of God in a political sense but in a literal sense, Exalted be God far above what they say.

And they say the gospels says so, but that doesn't mean anything, since the gospels have been changed and fabricated and corrupted, and none of the original gospel given to Jesus (peace and blessings of God be upon him) exists today.

The entire Bible has been changed and corrupted, it is not valid today in any way form or shape, and forbidden it is to read it, and it ought to be burned or buried under the ground, if found, so it doesn't misguide others, since it contains falsehood, a lot of it.

There are many reasons why Christainity is not true.

The reasons, I think, Christains are in awe of Jesus is because of his profound moral lessons. And whenever greatness confronts a primative people, the primative people can often conclude they are in the presense of a God. This has happened in many cases. Native people in California thought the Spanish were from heaven.

Marwan-Maroc, you are repeating many things that our Muslim clerics and authority figures have said. I have heard all of what you are saying many times before.

Can we discuss something new?

What do you think of the Founding Fathers of the USA and their belief in Deism?

To them, the realization that Christianity was untrue led them to Deism, not Islam. What are your thoughts?

I have noticed that my posts have to be approved before made public. This makes me sad. I think honest and respectful conversation is alway good even if you disgaree. I am wanting to start my own platform albeit a slightly different design. There, no post will be censored. Instead, there will have to be some sort of tier system based on votes from the members.

 

[Marwan-Maroc]

Deism is falsehood and all it's followers are disbelievers, worse than even the people of the book, since they deny to that God sent any Messengers or any Revelations, and that God did not make any Religion (I seek refuge in God from the accursed Satan).

They believe God exists, which is Absolutely True, but that Religion is falsehood, which is Absolute false, rather, Religion is Absolutely True, and Islam is the Religion with God (Quran), and the Religion choosen by God (Quran), and no other religion is accepted by God (Quran).

Thus, Deism is Absolutely wrong and a falsehood.

Since God didn't choosen Deism nor did He taught Deism to anyone, but He choose Islam and that is what God Guides humans to (in reality, in direct personal experiences, and by the Truth).

God and Religion are Truth.

God without Religion is utter falsehood

A Believer is Only and Alone he who says and believes in God and that there is no god but God and that Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings of God be upon him) is God's Messenger and slave and that the Glory Quran is from God.

Anyone else is a disbeliever and will get thrown to the hellfire.

And God knows best.

And to Him is our certain return.