Hadith 2569 vs Mathew 25:31-46 and Hadith 7498 vs 1 Corinthians 2:9

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I am a Christian and in Hadith 2569 Allah says exactly the same as what Jesus says in Mathew 25:31-46 and in Hadith 7498 Allah says the same as Paul says in 1 Corinthians 2:9(This is nowhere in the Old Testament said exactly like this.....Its a paraphrase using Paul's words)
How do you explain God says the same Jesus said and exactly the same Paul said?
 
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i fail to see the problem. We never said "everything in Christianity is false"
We just say that the Bible is corrupted and therefore we cannot be sure which part is true and which part not.

Which doesn't mean that we cannot agree on anything.
 
Wait...I am waking up now hehe...
Are you insinuating that therefore the Quraan must be copied from the Bible?
In that case I must disappoint you because we as muslims believe that both Books have the same source...which is God (the same God).

Unfortunately, the Injil became corrupted...but that doesn't mean that everything in the Injil is untrue.
Therefore we are not suprised when we find exact the same in the Bible here and there.
We believe that Jesus (as) was also a true prophet, and we totally respect him like all the prophets.
And about Paul...which we do not acknowledge at all...he simply could have memorized parts and pieces he heard from Jesus (as) and used those.
 
Yes but Mohammed said God said something that Jesus said....and said that God said something that Paul said
 
Ümit said:
Wait...I am waking up now hehe...
Are you insinuating that therefore the Quraan must be copied from the Bible?
In that case I must disappoint you because we as muslims believe that both Books have the same source...which is God (the same God).

Unfortunately, the Injil became corrupted...but that doesn't mean that everything in the Injil is untrue.
Therefore we are not suprised when we find exact the same in the Bible here and there.
We believe that Jesus (as) was also a true prophet, and we totally respect him like all the prophets.
And about Paul...which we do not acknowledge at all...he simply could have memorized parts and pieces he heard from Jesus (as) and used those.
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How did Paul hear from Jesus things if he never met Jesus
 
God says as He says in the Glorious Quran; there is no deity except Me.

And Jesus (sa) said exactly what the Great Quran says: I told them only to worship my Lord and your Lord.

God is the Greatest.
 
The Certain Absolute identitet of Jesus (sa) is that he was a Prophet of God. This is the Truth. This is the case.

He performed miracles by the Permission of God.

And he was never killed.

He never claimed to be god.

He was and is not god.

He was and is forever the slave and servant of God.

God is the Most Just.
 
Michael22 said:
Yes but Mohammed said God said something that Jesus said....and said that God said something that Paul said
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I would love to give you answers but could you please be a little clearer on what you mean?
Muhammed (sas) said Allah said something Jesus (as) said? Why is that suprising? Jesus (as) was send by God too.
of course they gonna say lots of things exactly the same or at least similar.

Allah said something that Paul said?
Don't know...Some cathy phrases of Jesus (as) must have circled around among the people which in turn were picked up by Paul or something.
Michael22 said:
How did Paul hear from Jesus things if he never met Jesus
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How can you be sure of anything written in the Bible is true? You have nothing to rely on scientifically.
All disciples of Jesus (as) were common fishermen who could not read or write.
all the manuscripts which make up the Bible today are written by anonymous people dedicated to the disciples a few cenuries later.

The part we believe in and call "the Injil" is the part Allah revealed to Jesus (as)...the part he preached during his lifetime on Earth.
That part is now scattered in small bits and pieces in the Bible today, wo we have no possibilities to separate the Injil (true words of God) from the Bible.

So, in short...you unfortunately cannot trust anything in the Bible to be 100% from God guaranteed.

And on top of that you have Paul, which is a problem of his own.
Here you have this common man who used to hate Christians to the level he even persecuted them coming with a story all of a sudden that he has seen Jesus (as) in a dream and spoke to him.
Everything he says is 100% contrary to what Jesus (as) said which is highly suspicious and yet you believe him on his words just because he says so.

Jesus (as) preached something similar as Judaism and Islaam, came with the same message if it wern't for Paul to change all of that.
Now, Christianity is the only odd one out.
You guys have to struggle to explain the trinity and all the other problems that come with it just because Paul introduced you to a false basis.
Christian Jesus has a switch which switches between a God and a human randomly...he can be a man or a God depending on how someone wants to explain something. and when cornered, he simply states that no one can truly understand the trinity.

Please stop this and come to the real monotheism.
 

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