Afraid of war?

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can i ask one thing about the hadith...isnt suicide haraam in islam?


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Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 445:
Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak:


The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, "Whoever intentionally swears falsely by a religion other than Islam, then he is what he has said, (e.g. if he says, 'If such thing is not true then I am a Jew,' he is really a Jew). And whoever commits suicide with piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire." Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, "A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him."




Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 446:
Narrated Abu Huraira-:


The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."


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root i dont know much about war so i wont even pretend i do. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on what its like to be shot. i would prefer a further explenation of:

"just what can getting shot/bombed/gassed etc can do to you" if you dont mind.

Perhaps you should ask a kurd!

i will fight against israelli's or american soldiers in afghanistan or those janjaweed in africa or anywhere else where muslims are oppressed. But i will never ever shoot anyone who seeks refuge in islam! thats a promise

That would make you Militia. I hope you have an honourable death if that is what you want, remember thier is an "unwritten" law in combat regarding militia forces.

Expect no quarter and give no quarter
 
"just what can getting shot/bombed/gassed etc can do to you" if you dont mind.

OK, if you really want to know. It can increase your stress levels which could cause battle shock or kill you. The good news is that you can't become pregnant. :giggling:
 
OK, if you really want to know. It can increase your stress levels which could cause battle shock or kill you. The good news is that you can't become pregnant. :giggling:

i was actually wondering, just how long can you linger till death once wounded?
btw thank you for answering :)
 
i was actually wondering, just how long can you linger till death once wounded?

that is a nonsensical question and of course depends on your wounds.
 
that is a nonsensical question and of course depends on your wounds.


"just how long", this simply meant what is the extent, whats the shortest wound you can get which would eventually lead to death.

i know a lot of people commit suicide due to the pain which is caused by some wounds and this is the one thing i fear about battle...
 
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Allah has said two things wash away the sins of a human. They are the tears of a person out of fear of Allah, and the blood that gushes out of person during jihad.

I have thought about it too, but I guess after some sincere thinking and worship towards Allah, it is very much possible one gets over this fear. I hope one day Allah enables me and all other soldiers who fight in the name of Allah to conquer the fears of the battlefield.

Also keep in mind that there will be no regrets for anybody in paradise- except for the martyr killed in the path of Islam. He will want to come back to the earth to fight and be killed in the name of Islam many more times, just because of the rewards he witnessed for the martyr while he was in paradise.
 
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Akhee, i've heard (i'm not sure) that it is stated in a hadith that the pain of death to a Martyr is as if he is bitten by an ant...subhanallah....just imagine!....Thats's absolutely nothing!

Allahu Akbar!

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Also keep in mind that there will be no regrets for anybody in paradise- except for the martyr killed in the path of Islam.

So true!!
 
Akhee, i've heard (i'm not sure) that it is stated in a hadith that the pain of death to a Martyr is as if he is bitten by an ant...subhanallah....just imagine!....Thats's absolutely nothing!

Yes but how would you test that claim? Whatever exists after death must be great because no one ever comes back Not even to chat about it. Not even if they are a martyr.
 
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Akhee, i've heard (i'm not sure) that it is stated in a hadith that the pain of death to a Martyr is as if he is bitten by an ant...subhanallah....just imagine!....Thats's absolutely nothing!

Allahu Akbar!

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in another narration its like a mosquito bite ALlahu Allam sis i understand this but that doesnt take away the pain leading to the death, and sometimes it lasts so long that people commit suicide... Naudhubillah min fadlik!
 
Yes but how would you test that claim? Whatever exists after death must be great because no one ever comes back Not even to chat about it. Not even if they are a martyr.

We don't need to test the claim, we have something called FAITH.
 
"just how long", this simply meant what is the extent, whats the shortest wound you can get which would eventually lead to death.

It's still non-sensical.

i know a lot of people commit suicide due to the pain which is caused by some wounds and this is the one thing i fear about battle...

Having fear is a good thing, it stimulates your fight and flight instincts I know myself and many other soldiers and all claim fear but recognise it as such and thus live with it as your senses are certainly hightened (sense of hearing, sight rection times etc etc). Not having fear one could argue would place you at a disadvantage. Death from wounds can take seconds minutes hours or days. Your inexperience is so abound why don't you forget about being on a battlefield and go do something good with your life!
 
im only 18, i have plenty of time for experience. If i fight i'll fight to die, if i live i'll live to teach.


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We don't need to test the claim, we have something called FAITH.

thats the beauty of it, what others see as a loss we see as a win, what they see as a win we see as a loss. Its two sides of a coin, none can see the other side...
 
im only 18, i have plenty of time for experience. If i fight i'll fight to die, if i live i'll live to teach.

The latter sounds good to me.
 
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These threads have been over-done.

Once again .. :rollseyes .. A message to the Pro-Jihadists,..don't talk about it,Talk is cheap.

Go out there and Do It.

With all due respect,..Please,get it over and done with,rather than continously going on and on about it.

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* Note = IF the FBI or the CIA are reading this,i am NOT encouraging anyone to go blow themselves up,i promise.. :grumbling
 
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