Lebanon Reels Under Fresh Strikes, 19 Killed

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sameer said:
ok so according to you - u do exist and have not suffered and ure ppl deseved it.

Thanks...at least i heard it form a native american's mouth.
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We do exist, we have suffered, and in most instances we didn't deserve it. What I'm trying to say is that war is never black and white, and most of the U.S. was gained through treaty negotation and not endless bloodshed. A tribe of 500 cannot stand up against an endless flood of millions of Europeans sailing to America. You make a choice, live or die.
 
Keltoi said:
We do exist, we have suffered, and in most instances we didn't deserve it. What I'm trying to say is that war is never black and white, and most of the U.S. was gained through treaty negotation and not endless bloodshed. A tribe of 500 cannot stand up against an endless flood of millions of Europeans sailing to America. You make a choice, live or die.
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ok i understand ure point........lets say its the 20th century this was happening ...who side would u be on and what will u speka up against? would u speak out against the invader or the invadee?
 
sameer said:
it seems to me that u value humiliation and being donimated.
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I'm actually quite happy here in the United States. I don't feel dominated or humiliated. I'm sure my ancestors did feel humiliated and dominated, but what is the other option? Yes, they could have all rode to their death against the U.S. Army, how poetic that could have been...but of course then I wouldn't exist.
 
sameer said:
ok i understand ure point........lets say its the 20th century this was happening ...who side would u be on and what will u speka up against? would u speak out against the invader or the invadee?
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I assume you are referring to the creation of Israel? If I would have lived at the time of its creation and understood the dynamics of the problem, I would have voiced my objection to so many people being displaced. If I was a Palestinian I would have felt humiliated and dominated, of course. Now it is 2006, and the only option for peace is a two-state solution with Israel's neighbors aknowledging its right to exist, otherwise, endless war. That is a choice the Palestinians have to make.
 
Keltoi said:
I assume you are referring to the creation of Israel? If I would have lived at the time of its creation and understood the dynamics of the problem, I would have voiced my objection to so many people being displaced. If I was a Palestinian I would have felt humiliated and dominated, of course. Now it is 2006, and the only option for peace is a two-state solution with Israel's neighbors aknowledging its right to exist, otherwise, endless war. That is a choice the Palestinians have to make.
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i was refering to if it was ure people being invaded today.

ANyhow....u said u would accept the state of israel....so how com eu didnt say u would support a state of palestine? u knwo israel dosent support this right?
 
sameer said:
i was refering to if it was ure people being invaded today.

ANyhow....u said u would accept the state of israel....so how com eu didnt say u would support a state of palestine? u knwo israel dosent support this right?
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I did say I would support a Palestinian state, that is what a two-state solution is all about.
 
also u know that everytime israel extend its boarders or invades and sets up settlements....they are displacing ppl.....and this is a continuious thing.....are u willing to voice ure opinion against it?
 
sameer said:
i was refering to if it was ure people being invaded today.

ANyhow....u said u would accept the state of israel....so how com eu didnt say u would support a state of palestine? u knwo israel dosent support this right?
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You must have missed the part where he mentioned 2 states:rollseyes
 
Geronimo said:
What does carrying that hate gain you?
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nice......i'm glad u said that...so y not israel forget an forgive hezbollah and hamas and move on? istead of killing ppl who probally dont support these two groups? how about releasing the captive palestinans and forget and accept and move on?
 
sameer said:
also u know that everytime israel extend its boarders or invades and sets up settlements....they are displacing ppl.....and this is a continuious thing.....are u willing to voice ure opinion against it?
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Yes, creating settlements in occupied land is displacing people. However, Israel has dismantled some of those settlements and had left Gaza before this recent outbreak of violence. I believe Ariel Sharon was willing to accept the two-state solution, but unfortunately Olmert doesn't carry as much weight as Sharon, figuratively and literally(joke), and the election of Hamas as the Palestinian government didn't sit well with Israel, since Hamas refuses the right of Israel to exist. The solution broke down, and now we have violence. I'm not calling Israel a victim, they have created this problem from the way the state was created and the people displaced because of it. However, I would assume the majority of Palestinians as well as the majority of Israelis want peace, and that should be what people work for, not how to kill each other.
 
sameer said:
nice......i'm glad u said that...so y not israel forget an forgive hezbollah and hamas and move on? istead of killing ppl who probally dont support these two groups? how about releasing the captive palestinans and forget and accept and move on?
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non sequitur. Not worth reply
 
i think the cat may have caught his tongue. Worth not rplying or cant reply?;D
 
Keltoi said:
Yes, creating settlements in occupied land is displacing people. However, Israel has dismantled some of those settlements and had left Gaza before this recent outbreak of violence. I believe Ariel Sharon was willing to accept the two-state solution, but unfortunately Olmert doesn't carry as much weight as Sharon, figuratively and literally(joke), and the election of Hamas as the Palestinian government didn't sit well with Israel, since Hamas refuses the right of Israel to exist. The solution broke down, and now we have violence. I'm not calling Israel a victim, they have created this problem from the way the state was created and the people displaced because of it. However, I would assume the majority of Palestinians as well as the majority of Israelis want peace, and that should be what people work for, not how to kill each other.
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but yet it seems to me that somehow ure posts are slanted more on the israeli side.? Ariel sharon moved into a refugee settlement and literally bulldozed muslim tents with ppl in it he shuld be tried for war crimes...and actaully it has been raised...but offcourse the US dosent support it. How come they didnt pull out of all the settlements? only the ones that they werent really interested in...or maybe they knwo that they will be reoccupying them soon again.
 
i think like you said only when it involves israel, usa or uk can you forgive and forget. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
Isaac said:
i think the cat may have caught his tongue. Worth not rplying or cant reply?;D
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who me?

hmmm 3 agsint one? nothing new....US , UK , Israel...against muslims?. U just need a couple of more of ure friends to jump in and it will be a big party right?
 

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