Lebanon Reels Under Fresh Strikes, 19 Killed

[sameer]

^^ ok HEHEAHAEHAEHEHEHehaehaeheah

lol ok
but nice change of topic to give ureself more time to get/ask ...errrr... i mean come up with a reply to my post.:rollseyes

 

[Geronimo]

^^ ok HEHEAHAEHAEHEHEHehaehaeheah

lol ok
but nice change of topic to give ureself more time to get/ask ...errrr... i mean come up with a reply to my post.:rollseyes

You said they lived in peace and I gave examples of where they don't. Your example is false anyway. It's like if someone buys the house next door and as soon as they move in I start throwing rocks and breaking windows. I can't complain if he comes over kicks the crap outta me and put up a fense.

 

[Keltoi]

they rather embarass their ppl beliefs an battles than see my point and side with palestine or lebanon. If they cant stand up for their own ppl..then i shouldnt really expect them to understand how to stand up for someone else or to stand up for my people

Standing up for my people? I didn't exist when my people had their struggle. Yes, I'm a Kiowa, but I am also an American, and proud of that fact. My people also have a long tradition of service in the U.S. military. Life didn't stand still for us 100 years ago. I suppose I could moan and cry about what happened long ago and hate white people that had nothing to do with it, but what would that gain? Finding common ground and struggling for common goals serves a much better purpose than hate.

 

[sameer]

They did not live in peace. Dhimmitude is not peace. Al-Husayni lead attacks against Jews all the time.

hmm dhimmitude???? isnt that a similar thing that u and ure fellow native american poster was gracious/thankful for when it concerned ure ancestors and europeans overlords?

 

[Geronimo]

hmm dhimmitude???? isnt that a similar thing that u and ure fellow native american poster was gracious/thankful for when it concerned ure ancestors and europeans overlords?

We have every right every other American does. In fact when on Tribal land we are governed by Tribal rules. The US government has no juridiction on our lands unless a crime is commited by someone in our tribe outside of the reservation.

 

[sameer]

hmm dhimmitude???? isnt that a similar thing that u and ure fellow native american poster was gracious/thankful for when it concerned ure ancestors and europeans overlords?

how come u didnt make it look like a bad thing when u and ure friend (against islam) were saying thats how they survived. U're friend said he was proud....-..if i remember correctly- that his ppl chose that and choose not to fight. In fact he said thats probaly how he exists today...i guess its the same with u rite?

 

[Keltoi]

I'm not against Islam, that is a pointless accusation to make.

*and by the way, I am proud of their sense of humanity, their willingness to accept defeat to save the lives of children, women, and old people.

 

[sameer]

We have every right every other American does. In fact when on Tribal land we are governed by Tribal rules. The US government has no juridiction on our lands unless a crime is commited by someone in our tribe outside of the reservation.

has this always been so?
besides....u think they care if u kill/ murder out each other?

on another note....does itreally have crime on ure resavations?

 

[sameer]

I'm not against Islam, that is a pointless accusation to make.

*and by the way, I am proud of their sense of humanity, their willingness to accept defeat to save the lives of children, women, and old people.

well i cant know whats in ure heart..but forgive me if i come up with that opinion from reading ure posts.

 

[Geronimo]

has this always been so?
besides....u think they care if u kill/ murder out each other?

on another note....does itreally have crime on ure resavations?

No it wasn't always so 60 years ago no one had rights unless you were a white male. Things are different here now while in some countries in the ME they still practice Dhimmitude.

 

[Rou]

On both sides of the border im sure there are civilian casualties...

but when one is caused by so called terrorists...

the other is caused by a so called democratic goverment...

within there lies a message of why many become angry...

And others cry that they have the RIGHT to do what they are doing..

I say that is the ultimate insult to a people already suffering...

No one has the right to kill the innocent...

Israel is clearly punishing those that hezbollah cares for...the people...

wether fact or not the ideal of hezzbollah is to fight for the people and israel knows this will anger them...

Terrorisem is born of those who suffer and will not be heard in some cases anyhow...

however to make more people suffer does nothing but create more terrorists...

more will rise in anger and more will join hezzbollah...

is there a point in telling anyone this!? probably not as the muslims are so confused that they wouldnt hear a cry for battle if it slapped them in the face and others will type away another useless bantter about israel and its reasons...

have you seen the power israel has have you seen what it has done to lebbanon?

And more important have you seen the reactions of the those who control the west? bush and blair mock and make excuses while innocents die...

This just seems to be a smart way of fighting a war and causing not for the enemy to unite...

israel,uk and US attack and blame eachother as if they knew not what the other was going to do..while muslims die...

its nothing but a smart way of fighting a war... if they showed there true colors and all attacked they know muslims will unite and that will be trouble...

god some one wake these people up...:heated:

 

[Geronimo]

On both sides of the border im sure there are civilian casualties...

but when one is caused by so called terrorists...

the other is caused by a so called democratic goverment...

within there lies a message of why many become angry...

And others cry that they have the RIGHT to do what they are doing..

I say that is the ultimate insult to a people already suffering...

No one has the right to kill the innocent...

Israel is clearly punishing those that hezbollah cares for...the people...

wether fact or not the ideal of hezzbollah is to fight for the people and israel knows this will anger them...

Terrorisem is born of those who suffer and will not be heard in some cases anyhow...

however to make more people suffer does nothing but create more terrorists...

more will rise in anger and more will join hezzbollah...

is there a point in telling anyone this!? probably not as the muslims are so confused that they wouldnt hear a cry for battle if it slapped them in the face and others will type away another useless bantter about israel and its reasons...

have you seen the power israel has have you seen what it has done to lebbanon?

And more important have you seen the reactions of the those who control the west? bush and blair mock and make excuses while innocents die...

This just seems to be a smart way of fighting a war and causing not for the enemy to unite...

israel,uk and US attack and blame eachother as if they knew not what the other was going to do..while muslims die...

its nothing but a smart way of fighting a war... if they showed there true colors and all attacked they know muslims will unite and that will be trouble...

god some one wake these people up...:heated:

Hezbollah don't care about the people if they did they never would have excuted that raid to capture those soldiers. Israel wasn't threatening Lebanon. Also the Israeli's are targeting bridges and power grids. Hezbollah are targeting apartment complexes and bus depots.

 

[Keltoi]

Plus, as much as people on here like to pretend this doesn't happen, Israeli warplanes lock on to locations from where Hezbollah attacks originate...and where do these attacks orginate...apartments complexes and civilian neighborhoods of course. That doesn't mean I rejoice in the death of civilians(before i'm accused of that), but that Hezbollah is responsible for as many civilian deaths as Israelis.

 

[Rou]

Hezbollah don't care about the people if they did they never would have excuted that raid to capture those soldiers. Israel wasn't threatening Lebanon. Also the Israeli's are targeting bridges and power grids. Hezbollah are targeting apartment complexes and bus depots.

A raid not what i heard as far as i know it was an advance by isralel against hezbollah fighters in which isralei soilders were killed and two captured your saying it as if hezbollah went in to israel and captured the two soilders1?

any links?

 

[Keltoi]

A raid not what i heard as far as i know it was an advance by isralel against hezbollah fighters in which isralei soilders were killed and two captured your saying it as if hezbollah went in to israel and captured the two soilders1?

any links?

First of all, any "advance" into Lebanese territory wouldn't be a handful of soliders. Secondly, is this going to be the next propoganda lie embraced in this forum? That 10 Israeli soldiers were "advancing" on Lebanon and were defeated by the heroic Hezbollah forces who are doing it all for the Palestinians? Sounds very poetic, dumb, but poetic.

here is a link by the way http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/12/mideast/

Notice the magical words..."cross-border raid?"

 

[sameer]

Hezbollah don't care about the people if they did they never would have excuted that raid to capture those soldiers. Israel wasn't threatening Lebanon. Also the Israeli's are targeting bridges and power grids. Hezbollah are targeting apartment complexes and bus depots.

no powergrids = no electricity
no electricty = no water pumps
no electricty = no waste treatment
no electricity = no hospital and ICU
no bridges = no food
no bridges = no way out for civilians wheather they support hezbollah or not
no bridges = no aid
no sea ports = no chance to get gasolene to power generators
no genertors = no electricity
no eletricty = no telephones
no telephones = no cries for help

still i dont hear u speakng about the Gaza strip.....israel are acheiving their odjective apart from killing muslims in lebanon, whch is to divert attention from Gaza. again u might say that they are trying to bring down the government which they say is a threat...well palestinians can say the same about the israeli government.

 

[sameer]

also.. ure zionist heroes boast of the bogus equipment and non guided missles that Hezbolah has.......then u cant be angry if their rockets skew wide and miss what ever targets they are intended for... israel have no excuse for hitting civilians...and actually they dont really make excuses....they admit it and dares the world to challenge them.

 

[MRR]

also.. ure zionist heroes boast of the bogus equipment and non guided missles that Hezbolah has.......then u cant be angry if their rockets skew wide and miss what ever targets they are intended for... israel have no excuse for hitting civilians...and actually they dont really make excuses....they admit it and dares the world to challenge them.

LOL! As if hezbollah avoids civilians. They don't care about lebanese civilians, why would they care about Isreals civilians?

A raid not what i heard as far as i know it was an advance by isralel against hezbollah fighters in which isralei soilders were killed and two captured your saying it as if hezbollah went in to israel and captured the two soilders1?

any links?

LOL!! Hey MJF, try and keep up will ya? Everybody knows this already. Besides, it's a no brainer that if Israel was going to advance across the border that they would be smarter than to send jut 10 soldiers! LOL!

 

[Lamaggad]

Hezbollah don't care about the people if they did they never would have excuted that raid to capture those soldiers.

The only reason why Hezb Allah have ARRESTED tow soldiers is bcz they care about the Palestinians and Lebanese people who was KIDNAPPED from their houses by the zionist forces... they basically want them to be freed.
Hezb Allah have the right 100% to do what they have done... they never asked for a war, and israel should not start a war with a whole country while Lebanon's own government doesn't know any thing about Hezb Allah's plan.

Israel wasn't threatening Lebanon. Also the Israeli's are targeting bridges and power grids. Hezbollah are targeting apartment complexes and bus depots.

Hezb Allah have attacked israeli military spots.. that is very clear, BUT israel never stopped attacking civilians bcz basically they do not care about Arabs.. i don't understand what benefits did they made when they destroyed the bridges and airports?!?! all that can be rebuild any way...
when the zionist terrorists attacks continued on the innocent people, THEN hezb Allah have attacked some israeli building...

 

[Lamaggad]

if you want to compare the losses between both sides, israel have killed more than 150 innocent people till now and wounded most then 350.
not to mention there is 7 of them who are Canadian citizen.

go to the israeli side Hezb Allah have killed 24 and wounded maybe 50... which clearly means that Hezb Allah is only targeting the israeli military which means they are smart enough and they know exactly what they are targeting and what they will target next...

israel have no choice but to free those people to get the two soldiers... war will continues as long israel will continue... that's how it is.