Patience with Palestine?

Vahid said:
In fact their position looks better than ever, with the Mighty super power in a stall mate and losing in Iraq to Iran building up its various weapons. Its a matter of time, when a competent leader takes over Pakistan and Saudi the power will begin to shift in the region
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One way to look at it. Thanks for sharing.
 
Another way of looking at things. Perhaps this will be the last final battle before all people recognise that the time has come when wars can no longer be fought with weapons that kill and destroy. The world has become so small that it is now impossible to cause another person to suffer, without it being obvious that we all will ultimatly suffer. A human can not harm another human without it harming himself and his loved ones also. Yes, we will always have wars to right unjustices, but the weapons of the past are now obsolete. The weapons of the future need to be tools of cooperation rather then destruction. A countries greatest strength now comes with the knowledge that no nation is independant. Each country no matter how small, has other countries dependent upon them for something. The greatest weapon is to learn who is dependent upon you, and use the removal of support as a weapon.

Israel needs to recognise it depends on Palestine to survive and Palestine needs to recognise it is dependent upon Israel. The conquest of either, by the other will result in the lose of both.
 
How can you live in peace with people who blow up teenagers in pizza parlors? . .
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How can u live with people who targeted citizens from their airforces and their tanks and beldozers

so which weopon is effective more th airforces and tanks or blowing up?!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Lamaggad said:
The thing is, israel is the one who isn't accepting the defeat.

Saudi Arabia, UAE and Syria and some other countries doesn't recognise israel as a country, most of the Arab and Muslims nations doesn't recognise the existence of israel and I'm very proud to be one of them.

if you think that by power every one can win, then you are wrong...
israel always kills, always destroy, always fights... they are forcing every one by power to accept which they can't do even if they kept killing the whole world like what they are doing in Lebanon now.

why do you think they are pissed now? bcz the majority don't want them.. the majority don't accept them...

they want to kill evey one who say no out loud infront of their face like what Hezb Allah, Hamas, Syria and Iran is doing.

Subhana Allah, all those four are terrorists and israel is only victim who is looking for peace.

i don't know how you guys are calculating things??!?!
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They calculate things by what their president say and their party they vote for say. Aswell as the media and the inluence of Israeli Lobby.
 
searchingsoul said:
How long should the world give Palestine to come to grips with the fact that Israel is no longer theirs to claim?

I know it took Native Americans a while to accept that they'd lost their fight. I'm sure it's true of any overpowered tribe or nation.

The history of the world shows that land and people are continuously being conquered. All countries and races are guilty of conquest.

I'm thinking since we have advanced methods of transportation, communication, and nuclear weapons, less tolerance should be given to those unwilling to accept defeat.
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you must realise that the palestinians do not have to fight to win, in fact it would be almost impossible for them to do so, so what are they doing?

they are fighting to keep the israelis from winning, anyone who has played chess or naughts and crosses will know playing for a draw is very easy but playing to win is much harder.

now the palestinians only have to keep the israelis fighting because they know eventually islam will return as a state system and when it does then the liberation of palestine will be one of the first wrongs righted.

even Sheikh Yaseen (may Allah grant him mercy and accept his martyrdom) said he would sign a long term truce on the 67 borders for 10, 20 or 50 years because he knew eventually the lands around palestine would return to the rule of islam not secular kufr law and then the israelis were doomed.

as one palestine put it to a brother i know who has travelled there,
'the crusaders were here for 150 years and you expect us to give up after only 50 years of occupation?'

israel is doomed, it will be destroyed and the longer the jewish conduct continues to be so blood thirsty and destructive the harder it will be for them when that destruction comes.

Daw'ud
 
Dawud_uk said:
you must realise that the palestinians do not have to fight to win, in fact it would be almost impossible for them to do so, so what are they doing?

they are fighting to keep the israelis from winning, anyone who has played chess or naughts and crosses will know playing for a draw is very easy but playing to win is much harder.

now the palestinians only have to keep the israelis fighting because they know eventually islam will return as a state system and when it does then the liberation of palestine will be one of the first wrongs righted.

even Sheikh Yaseen (may Allah grant him mercy and accept his martyrdom) said he would sign a long term truce on the 67 borders for 10, 20 or 50 years because he knew eventually the lands around palestine would return to the rule of islam not secular kufr law and then the israelis were doomed.

as one palestine put it to a brother i know who has travelled there,
'the crusaders were here for 150 years and you expect us to give up after only 50 years of occupation?'

israel is doomed, it will be destroyed and the longer the jewish conduct continues to be so blood thirsty and destructive the harder it will be for them when that destruction comes.

Daw'ud
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So the Palestinians just need to keep fighting and waiting for allah? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. The rest of the world doesn't buy it either.

I think your religious claim is just as valid as the jewish claim that they are the chosen people. Maybe it's true. No one will know until they die.
 
Isma'el said:
hey was it the jews who crucified jesus PBUH..?
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That was a cheap shot because you know muslims don't believe Isa was crucified. As for who crucified him it was the Romans as the Jews didn't have any power at the time.
 
searchingsoul said:
Do they not want them because they wish to further their political agenda? Or do they not want them because they consider them inferior?
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They consider them inferior. In Lebanon they live in ghettos and most places won't give them a job or allow them to build. They were eject from Egypt because they were casing too much trouble same with SA and Jordan. When Iraq took Kuwait the Pals went around robbing and killing and raping. Nobody wants them.
 
Geronimo said:
They consider them inferior. In Lebanon they live in ghettos and most places won't give them a job or allow them to build. They were eject from Egypt because they were casing too much trouble same with SA and Jordan. When Iraq took Kuwait the Pals went around robbing and killing and raping. Nobody wants them.
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Wow. I'm speechless.
 
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i have a question for you searching soul, how would you feel if someone occupied and stole your home?
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Annie
 
Annie said:
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i have a question for you searching soul, how would you feel if someone occupied and stole your home?
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Annie
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What do you think? Of course I wouldn't like it. I've never denied that there are atrocities being committed today by Israel toward the Palestinians. I feel that there's too much hatred by both sides to change this presently. I also feel that the Palestinians need to accept defeat and move on with their lives.
 
searchingsoul said:
What do you think? Of course I wouldn't like it. I've never denied that there are atrocities being committed today by Israel toward the Palestinians. I feel that there's too much hatred by both sides to change this presently. I also feel that the Palestinians need to accept defeat and move on with their lives.
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If you accept defeat, and move someplace else, then when the people who defeated you grow they will do the same thing again and again... you know how it goes, they can't let that happen.

If somebody came and took my house, and i knew they were stronger i would still camp out right in front of my property, with signs and everything, and they can throw rocks at me or humiliate me to try to make me leave, but i will stand my ground until i get what is rightfully my house.

Kidman
 
Kidman said:
If somebody came and took my house, and i knew they were stronger i would still camp out right in front of my property, with signs and everything, and they can throw rocks at me or humiliate me to try to make me leave, but i will stand my ground until i get what is rightfully my house.

Kidman
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That's okay if I would be the only one affected. If I was affecting the stability and future of my children, I'd take other actions.
 
The Palestinians need to worry about forming their own state alongside Israel. Holding on to some fantasy of destroying Israel leads to a dead end road.
 
searchingsoul said:
That's okay if I would be the only one affected. If I was affecting the stability and future of my children, I'd take other actions.
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and teach your children to give the bully what he wants? I would rather have my children watch me die fighting for my freedom.

The Palestinians need to worry about forming their own state alongside Israel. Holding on to some fantasy of destroying Israel leads to a dead end road.
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That is what they are trying to do. They have their own state, but Israel is still in control and wont let the Palestinians control it themselves.

Kidman
 
Keltoi said:
The Palestinians need to worry about forming their own state alongside Israel. Holding on to some fantasy of destroying Israel leads to a dead end road.
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The Palestinians ultimately accept the two-state solution and have recognized on several occassions. It is Israel who has failed to recognize the peacetalks and negotiations. The Camp David talks is a prime example where Israel has broken off negotiations while they were a brick away of agreeing on a fruitful solution.
 

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