How do Jews define "prophet" ?

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i pitied joe...he only asking...

joe maybe you should try the jew thread...
 
therebbe is messin'.
jew do recognize prophets, tho as far as i know, moses was not considered a prophet. maybe therebbe can comment on this.
the hebrew word for prophet is navi
very close to nabi.
 
i_m_tipu said:
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i am pretty sure that abraham is also not considered a prophet either.
where is a jew when you need one, lol?
but jews do have prophets. in fact 1/3 of the tanakh (what christians call "the old testament", is called "neviim" - prophets. isaiah, jeremiah, etc.
 
snakelegs said:
i am pretty sure that abraham is also not considered a prophet either.
where is a jew when you need one, lol?
but jews do have prophets. in fact 1/3 of the tanakh (what christians call "the old testament", is called "neviim" - prophets. isaiah, jeremiah, etc.
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thanks for the info

i want 2 study this can u help
 
i_m_tipu said:
thanks for the info

i want 2 study this can u help
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i know something about judaism, but it would really be better if you ask a "real one", cuz i could be wrong. well, i'm sure one of the jewish members will be happy to correct me if i tell you something wrong!
the tanakh - should be tanach, actually - (called "old testament" by christians, is named after the 3 letters T, N, and Ch (which has a sound like the kh in khabar)

T= torah, the first 5 books - torah means teaching, way etc.

Bere**** - Genesis
Shemot - Exodus
Vayikra - Leviticus
Bamidbar - Numbers
Devarim - Deuteronomy

N = nevi'im - prophets

Joshua (Yehoshua)
Judges (Shoftim)
1 Samuel (1 Shmuel)
2 Samuel (2 Shmuel)
1 Kings (1 Melakhim)
2 Kings (2 Melakhim)
Isaiah (Yisheyah)
Jeremiah (Yermiyah)
Ezekiel (Yechezqel)
Hosea (Hoshea)
Joel (Yoel)
Amos
Obadiah (Ovadyah)
Jonah (Yonah)
Micah (Mikhah)
Nahum (Nahum)
Habakkuk (Chavaquq)
Zephaniah (Tsephanyah)
Haggai (Haggai)
Zechariah (Zekharyah)
Malachi (Malakhi)

Ch

next is ketuvim - writings (note the relationship with arabic kitab, etc.)
Psalms (Tehilim)
Proverbs (Mishlei)
Job (Iyov)
Song of Solomon (Shir Hashirim)
Ruth
Lamentations (Eichah)
Ecclesiastes (Qohelet)
Esther (Esther)
Daniel (Daniyel)
Ezra
Nehemiah (Nechemiyah)
1 Chronicles (1 Divrey Yamim)
2 Chronicles (2 Divrey Yamim)

you can find it on line at
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/tan/index.htm#contents
 
Ultimately what I am getting at in my usual subtle way, is that Muslims use the word "prophet" to have a specific meaning.

Whereas to Christians and Jews, Abraham and Moses were great men but not prophets.

A prophet can predict that something will happen - such as which horse will win the race next Saturday.
 
north_malaysian said:
I think David and Solomon are considered Kings arent they?
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Not considered kings, they were kings.

But they can't predict next week's hore racing results.
 
snakelegs said:
i know something about judaism, but it would really be better if you ask a "real one", cuz i could be wrong. well, i'm sure one of the jewish members will be happy to correct me if i tell you something wrong!
the tanakh - should be tanach, actually - (called "old testament" by christians, is named after the 3 letters T, N, and Ch (which has a sound like the kh in khabar)

T= torah, the first 5 books - torah means teaching, way etc.

Bere**** - Genesis
Shemot - Exodus
Vayikra - Leviticus
Bamidbar - Numbers
Devarim - Deuteronomy

N = nevi'im - prophets

Joshua (Yehoshua)
Judges (Shoftim)
1 Samuel (1 Shmuel)
2 Samuel (2 Shmuel)
1 Kings (1 Melakhim)
2 Kings (2 Melakhim)
Isaiah (Yisheyah)
Jeremiah (Yermiyah)
Ezekiel (Yechezqel)
Hosea (Hoshea)
Joel (Yoel)
Amos
Obadiah (Ovadyah)
Jonah (Yonah)
Micah (Mikhah)
Nahum (Nahum)
Habakkuk (Chavaquq)
Zephaniah (Tsephanyah)
Haggai (Haggai)
Zechariah (Zekharyah)
Malachi (Malakhi)

Ch

next is ketuvim - writings (note the relationship with arabic kitab, etc.)
Psalms (Tehilim)
Proverbs (Mishlei)
Job (Iyov)
Song of Solomon (Shir Hashirim)
Ruth
Lamentations (Eichah)
Ecclesiastes (Qohelet)
Esther (Esther)
Daniel (Daniyel)
Ezra
Nehemiah (Nechemiyah)
1 Chronicles (1 Divrey Yamim)
2 Chronicles (2 Divrey Yamim)

you can find it on line at
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/tan/index.htm#contents
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thanks :)

that site contain vast information.

but very difficult to study.

bcoz it has no search system :-\
 
Joe98 said:
Ultimately what I am getting at in my usual subtle way, is that Muslims use the word "prophet" to have a specific meaning.

Whereas to Christians and Jews, Abraham and Moses were great men but not prophets.

A prophet can predict that something will happen - such as which horse will win the race next Saturday.
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i think ur incorrect...not all prophets can predict future...but they have their own speciality..
 
Joe98 said:
Ultimately what I am getting at in my usual subtle way, is that Muslims use the word "prophet" to have a specific meaning.

Whereas to Christians and Jews, Abraham and Moses were great men but not prophets.

A prophet can predict that something will happen - such as which horse will win the race next Saturday.
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prophet only know that much what God let him know.(Muslim believe)
 
^^ yep exactly... and joe, that's how YOU define prophet

as far as Islam and Muslims are concerned, there is no such thing as the "prophet" you're referring to.. it's a myth that anyone has the knowledge of the unseen future.

The prophets (anbiya, rusul) like Abraham, Jesus, Mohammed PBUH etc only know as much as what Allah has told them.

So when the prophet mentioned that constantinople will fall to the Muslims, that wanst because the prophet Muhamamd had any knoweldge of the unseen by his own power, it was only because Allah revealed to him that knowledge.

Otherwise, the prophet would have been able to tell us when day of judgemetn will occur, and he wouldn't have denied having knowledge of the unseen if he did know it.
 
Joe98 said:
Ultimately what I am getting at in my usual subtle way, is that Muslims use the word "prophet" to have a specific meaning.

Whereas to Christians and Jews, Abraham and Moses were great men but not prophets.

A prophet can predict that something will happen - such as which horse will win the race next Saturday.
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Actually, the word 'Prophet' is derived from the Greek prophetes, which means "an interpreter, spokesman", especially of a deity. It is in this sense that Muslims call Muhammad (peace be upon him) a Prophet, as he was a messenger, not a fortune teller.
 

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