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Thank bro north_malaysian. I supposed that is how it is.
But I'm still shocked by the pork. I think I uderstand it as it is the Chinese Malaysians and not the Mulsims who breed pigs and export pork.
Since Malaysia is a Majority Muslim country, is Islam not the official religion? If yes, why is the breeding of pigs allowed?
 
Woodrow said:
The firm cheeses are the so called hard cheeses that are normaly aged. Some examples would be Cheddar, Colby, Swiss, etc. They can be made without rennet or gelatin but the process is very slow with much waste, so they are quite expensive. They can also be made with rennet and the rennet can be from a halal source. The Halal ones are less expensive then the ones mentioned above but usually more expensive than the non-halal. The ones made with gelatin are usually the cheapest and nearly always haraam. They usually taste lousey too.


Processed cheeses are any type of cheese which is altered by cooking, grinding, melting, reshaped etc. some examples would be American Cheese, Velveeta, Cheese Whiz, Cheese dips etc.
Cheese food product is anything that contains some cheese, tastes like cheese, but is predominatly non-cheese. Imitation cheeses are just that No chesse usually contains tofu, vegetable oil or other vegetable products, Usually Halal and some really do taste and melt like real cheese.
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thank you...but what about the slice cheese? what is the category of the cheese...and what about the cheese that been used by McD and KFC....or other fast food outlet...what type of cheese they used...

sorry...i'm bad with cheese names...i only good at eating them :cry:
 
syilla said:
thank you...but what about the slice cheese? what is the category of the cheese...and what about the cheese that been used by McD and KFC....or other fast food outlet...what type of cheese they used...

sorry...i'm bad with cheese names...i only good at eating them :cry:
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McD usualy uses Cheddar and it could be haraam. Cheddar is usually made with rennet.

Most sliced cheeses are hard chesses. but it is hard to call which are made with rennet, they all can be made with it but some don't have to be. If I remember correctly most imported swiss is made without it, but a lot of the American made is made with it. Even with the imported I would check first. While on the subject look closely at the labels for yougurt, some are starting to contain geletain.
 
Woodrow said:
I can answer about the Cheeses. I am a cheese lover. I never thought of the possibility that some cheese may contain a meat product. But, it is true. It is common for some cheese makers to add rennet to hard cheese to cause them to set faster and firmer. The source of the rennet is animal. We do not always know what animal the rennet came from so unless we know it is best to consider the firm cheeses to be haraam. There are Halaal hard cheeses on the market, usually found in specialty stores here in the US they are made either with properly prepared goat rennet or with no rennet or gelatin. When in doubt consider it Haraam.
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:sl: brothers n sisters.
what if the cheese pack says that it contains rennet, but also has a halall label on it?
what is rennet anyway, and what animal does it come from?
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This link has several home made cheese recipes. Plus some other stuff. Notice nearly all of these recipes will be haraam unless you use halaal rennet. For home use on the cheeses that call for rennet you can use about a tablespoon of lemon juice instead of the rennet and get a good halal cheese it will not be as firm as the ones made with rennet, but in my opinion will taste better and be halal.

Also note that the recipes for Root beer and ginger ale will also be haraam as they are made with yeast.

http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Fankhauser/Cheese/Cheese.html
 
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Some Companies certified halal by JAKIM (Malaysia)

1) McDonalds
2) Pizza Huts
3) A & W
4) Delifrance
5) The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf
6) Dunkin' Donuts
7) Dutch Lady
8) KFC
9) Kenny Rogers Roasters
10) Muller's Sausage Haus
11) Shakey's Pizza
12) Starbucks Coffee
13) Nestle
14) Boh Tea
15) Kyros Kebab
16) TESCO products
17) Unilever Foods
18) Glaxosmithkline
19) F&N

there are so many companies....

check out: http://www.halaljakim.gov.my/directory/index.php?lang=

But it's in Malay language .... you can checck the 'halal'ness just by key in the barcodes....
 
Woodrow said:
Also note that the recipes for Root beer and ginger ale will also be haraam as they are made with yeast.
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You are confusing bro........ why is yeast haraam? Does is it mean that marmite (or vegemite) is not halaal because its yeast extract?
 
manaal said:
Thank bro north_malaysian. I supposed that is how it is.
But I'm still shocked by the pork. I think I uderstand it as it is the Chinese Malaysians and not the Mulsims who breed pigs and export pork.
Since Malaysia is a Majority Muslim country, is Islam not the official religion? If yes, why is the breeding of pigs allowed?
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Islam is the OFFICIAL RELIGION. But we allowed Chinese and other non Muslims to breed pigs, crocodiles, snakes and tortoises and export them.
 
north_malaysian said:
Some Companies certified halal by JAKIM (Malaysia)

1) McDonalds
2) Pizza Huts
3) A & W
4) Delifrance
5) The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf
6) Dunkin' Donuts
7) Dutch Lady
8) KFC
9) Kenny Rogers Roasters
10) Muller's Sausage Haus
11) Shakey's Pizza
12) Starbucks Coffee
13) Nestle
14) Boh Tea
15) Kyros Kebab
16) TESCO products
17) Unilever Foods
18) Glaxosmithkline
19) F&N

there are so many companies....

check out: http://www.halaljakim.gov.my/directory/index.php?lang=

But it's in Malay language .... you can checck the 'halal'ness just by key in the barcodes....
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The outlets in Malaysia or world-wide?
 
north_malaysian said:
Islam is the OFFICIAL RELIGION. But we allowed Chinese and other non Muslims to breed pigs, crocodiles, snakes and tortoises and export them.
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LOL, that weird............. I guess they do it for the sake of peaceful co-existance. Since I haven't heard of Malaysia having any racial conflicts it must be a good thing.
But personally, I think its not right for a Muslim country to allow even the non-Muslims to breed pigs (or manufacture alcohol) as it is clearly stated in the quran that these are haraam.
 
manaal said:
You are confusing bro........ why is yeast haraam? Does is it mean that marmite (or vegemite) is not halaal because its yeast extract?
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All products made with yeast will contain alcohol if the yeast is permitted to ferment. I would check on the vegemite in Australia. I ran into on discussion on this on another board and there was strong evidence that is was halal as the yeast was not allowed to ferment. I would suggest looking more into it. Possibly at a halal market or from a scholar in Australia who is familiar with it.
 
manaal said:
LOL, that weird............. I guess they do it for the sake of peaceful co-existance. Since I haven't heard of Malaysia having any racial conflicts it must be a good thing.
But personally, I think its not right for a Muslim country to allow even the non-Muslims to breed pigs (or manufacture alcohol) as it is clearly stated in the quran that these are haraam.
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We have a VERY BIG Carlsberg Factory too....
 
manaal said:
The outlets in Malaysia or world-wide?
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In Malaysia, which means if it's produced in Malaysia and exported worldwide - IT's APPLICABLE....

If you have any Malaysian product just check the barcode.... it might be listed in halaljakim website....
 
north_malaysian said:
Some Companies certified halal by JAKIM (Malaysia)

1) McDonalds
2) Pizza Huts
3) A & W
4) Delifrance
5) The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf
6) Dunkin' Donuts
7) Dutch Lady
8) KFC
9) Kenny Rogers Roasters
10) Muller's Sausage Haus
11) Shakey's Pizza
12) Starbucks Coffee
13) Nestle
14) Boh Tea
15) Kyros Kebab
16) TESCO products
17) Unilever Foods
18) Glaxosmithkline
19) F&N

there are so many companies....

check out: http://www.halaljakim.gov.my/directory/index.php?lang=

But it's in Malay language .... you can checck the 'halal'ness just by key in the barcodes....
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Excellent list but I believe that would only apply to the ones in Indonesia. Many of those companies use different ingrediants in the USA that are Haraam. Sadly so many of those foods could be halal world wide if the companies would stop trying to earn every possible penny.

I know that in many countries McD uses halal ingrediants but here nearly everything on the menu is haraam.
 
Woodrow said:
All products made with yeast will contain alcohol if the yeast is permitted to ferment. I would check on the vegemite in Australia. I ran into on discussion on this on another board and there was strong evidence that is was halal as the yeast was not allowed to ferment. I would suggest looking more into it. Possibly at a halal market or from a scholar in Australia who is familiar with it.
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Hope I'm not being a pest here... but when you mean yeast its also the yeast we use to make bread right? Noe I'll have to check that for the halal logo as well! Oh life!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think "dry yeast" is not left to be fermented... must check on that though, I don'have a pack handy right now.
 
manaal said:
Hope I'm not being a pest here... but when you mean yeast its also the yeast we use to make bread right? Noe I'll have to check that for the halal logo as well! Oh life!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think "dry yeast" is not left to be fermented... must check on that though, I don'have a pack handy right now.
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Sadly the bread yeast produces alcohol too. That is why fresh baked bread has a "Beer" smell. It is the fermenting in the dough that makes the dough rise.
 
Woodrow said:
Excellent list but I believe that would only apply to the ones in Indonesia. Many of those companies use different ingrediants in the USA that are Haraam. Sadly so many of those foods could be halal world wide if the companies would stop trying to earn every possible penny.

I know that in many countries McD uses halal ingrediants but here nearly everything on the menu is haraam.
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Actually we Malaysians rely SO MUCH on that logo in order to consume something .... at least we are secured....... the cert of halaal should be renew anually, thus it means that every year a religious officer from JAKIM will check how they did those things.... the place (is it clean or not) ... then he could renew the halal certificate..

I've heard that it's hard to find halal products in Indonesia and Turkey...
 
manaal said:
Do you think ok, that its allowed?
I recall my father telling me once that "Muslim" didn't necessarily mean "Islamic" when it came to politics.
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The Islamists were making noises, the Government ignores them and the average Muslims dont really care about it ... the factory has been in operation for decades....

You can find big billboards of alcoholic drinks ads in Malaysia....
 

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