fellow muslims terrorism

[HusamLah]

what can we muslims do to police the muslim world against terrorism so the rest of the world doesnt have to?

 

[afriend]

we can kick their faces in joke.

OR

We can show them what Islam really is, and denounce every act of terror done for Islam, that is not of us, number 2, we must condemn every act

 

[Woodrow]

Live our lifes as Muslims and show by example instead of words. Stop speaking out in favor of those who use terrorism. We do not have to condemn them, but we can stop enabling them by our support. Let Terrorists know they will get no help from Muslims.

We need to support Islam and learn to stop acting like we support acts of terror.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Live our lifes as Muslims and show by example instead of words. Stop speaking out in favor of those who use terrorism. We do not have to condemn them, but we can stop enabling them by our support. Let Terrorists know they will get no help from Muslims.

We need to support Islam and learn to stop acting like we support acts of terror.

Yea its important to show what Islam is and what being a Muslim means. Just talking wont do the trick. People like to see proof, so show them.

 

[Ghazi]

You know what it's our fault 7/7 happened and your probably thinking are you crazy, but lets see what happened directly after 7/7, So called muslim leaders condeming the acts rightly so but we need to ask what can cause someone to do such acts is it beacuse of evil, nope, them guys wern't bad they were misguided anyone can due something as tragic all you need is minipulation and motivation, is quiet evident just by switching on the news any muslim can see the suffering of muslims world-wide, combine this with a love and urge for martyrdom you've got the making of a mujahid but here's the problem 'Ilm'(Knowladge) this is what these guys lacked and what caused them to commit such a disguesting act, but what I have a problem is with shiek after shiek preeching how this is wrong and 100% against islam when the same shieks arn't educating people about Jihad(Qitaal), you'd think with such a conterversial issue which deals with voilence and death that people would be fully aware of the rules but sadly this isn't the case, I feel let down by the Ulama for numerous reasons it's funny how they condom OBL(osma bin laden) yet they have neglected jihad when it so evident theres a need for it, I say the ulama should open centers teaching people about jihad and training and form a army since even Bush said "Every Nation must defend it self" I ask isn't the ummah a nation?

 

[Woodrow]

i see alot of muslims defending terrorism as it is defined by the USA. the problem is the same people defending and justifying terrorism are the same ones griping about profiling. where is the logic?

As logical as people who put six spoons of sugar in their coffee then complain that it is too sweet.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

As logical as people who put six spoons of sugar in their coffee then complain that it is too sweet.

LOL, thats bad logic :rollseyes what people need to fix is the root causes of so called terrorism and why it happens, no matter with whom.

 

[Woodrow]

it is a problem that needs to be addressed by our community. until our own leaders and the majority of our people renounce terrorism directed toward the USA we need to accept profiling

i support people having beliefs opposite of mine. but those supporting terrorism directed toward the USA need to quit their complaining and accept racial discrimination and profiling as a result. its common sense

Very true. It is an established fact people will want to protect themselves from terrorists. People will want to remove would be terrorists from society. People who vocaly support terroristic act will be seen as potential terrorists. The most logical safety scenario is to keep a close eye on people who openly support terrorism. Result equals profiling. Logical result of supporting terrorism.

True it is discrimination, it is unfair and it is humiliating. But, the fact is, it was caused by some of our over anxious members who speak loudly in support of violence.

Our own actions and words can cause the very things we are trying to prevent. If we talk loudly, speak of the justice of terrorists and demand the over throw of the government. We will be seen as people who want to over throw the government and we will be treated as such.

 

[Muezzin]

We need to remind people that Islam requires us to abide by the laws of the land we live in. The indiscriminate killing of fellow countrymen, who are civillians I might add, is a crime. Moreover, the killing of civillians is absolutely forbidden in Islam. We need to stress that even if Muslims suffer heinous crimes, we are not to sink such levels ourselves. Islam teaches justice and balance, as opposed to simply 'an eye for an eye'.

We do need to address what causes the frustration that drives certain people to commit terrorist attacks - and to do this adequately we also need to establish a good, friendly line of communication with the Government.

So many conflicts could be avoided if people just talked.

 

[Hawa]

i see alot of muslims defending terrorism as it is defined by the USA. the problem is the same people defending and justifying terrorism are the same ones griping about profiling. where is the logic?

"Terrorism" as defined by the USA is very simple; innocent until proven muslim. Yes we care about profiling...but not as much as we care about the muslim lives under threat everyday, which is more important? Appeasing people who dont really care too much about you will get you nowhere...3000 people died in New York..how many lives have been destroyed in Afghanistan and Iraq ever since? The very people you wish to lull into a sense of security are not at risk from anyone other than their own governments..governments might I add that they support at the expense of muslims!
Its one thing to say "Islam is all about peace" its another to turn the other cheek.
If they wish to relish in ignorance so be it, Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and anyone who will stop to think outside the box for a minute will come to that conclusion, either way most Americans and Britons dont give a hoot...
just look at Iraq...there were no WMD's, no Usama in Iraq, it had nothing to do with 9/11 yet their troops are still there, still killing innocents. If anyone bothered to stop and ask themselves for a minute "why are we there" and sought action..terrorism would come to a halt.

 

[glo]

Live our lifes as Muslims and show by example instead of words. Stop speaking out in favor of those who use terrorism. We do not have to condemn them, but we can stop enabling them by our support. Let Terrorists know they will get no help from Muslims.

We need to support Islam and learn to stop acting like we support acts of terror.

Why not go as far as publicly comdemning terrorism? :?

Peace

 

[Woodrow]

Why not go as far as publicly comdemning terrorism? :?

Peace

That would be a good thing to do, but I think a person can still fight terrorism without needing to codemn any person. There is a difference between condeming a person and condeming his actions.


Some people feel that it is arrogant and judgemental to condemn any person, errors can be made. That was why I stated that they could still act without public condemnation of anybody.

 

[wilberhum]

I think a person can still fight terrorism without needing to codemn any person. There is a difference between condeming a person and condeming his actions.

I could not disagree more. When I see terrorists being held up in great esteem, you have to name names. Some people call the murders, martyrs and talk about them with respect. As long as these criminals are glorified, they must be condemned, by name.

At least that is my conclusion.

 

[Ghazi]

I could not disagree more. When I see terrorists being held up in great esteem, you have to name names. Some people call the murders, martyrs and talk about them with respect. As long as these criminals are glorified, they must be condemned, by name.

At least that is my conclusion.

It's about prespective 7/7 was a terrorist attack, one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.

 

[wilberhum]

It's about prespective 7/7 was a terrorist attack, one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.

What freedom did they obtain?
Kind of makes my point, doesn't it.

 

[Ghazi]

What freedom did they obtain?
Kind of makes my point, doesn't it.

Wasn't refering to 7/7 ibut people such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

 

[starfortress]

not much we could do to prevent it in physical form like fight against them using a military method,we should refurbish our government system,any kind of system that important to run a nations,like economy,politic,society,education,military etc.The problem are, most of Muslim country seems to confuse or blur with their own system, they must absorb only a good value/system from west and then mix it with Islamic system,the only system they pick very well from the west is entertaiment.there are many good value were provided by the west,the solid example are politic and educational,but both are still a major weakness in most of muslim country.

Ok this is the scenario.
when the president act more than a king the popstars vocal are more valuable than a cleric/Imam,the popculture spread widely.the rich became richer the poor became poorer.Government wealth only shared with family and crony.All the system must be match to the leader taste.then suddenly the country got involve in war, the ruler ask his countrymen to fight against the intruder with jihad(Islam way) in fact for along time there is no balancing between Islam and western value in his nation.anybody should know the result of thats scenario.

so when all the system is ok,then the nation should runnig by itself,the ruler only act as a guider,and the citizen will have a comfort sit for journey,but it need to balance with World and Afterworld.i think thats are my opinion.
Peace!

 

[Woodrow]

Many of us are reluctant to openly condemn an individual by name publicaly. I can understand Wilberhums point and I do agree that it is a good way to show we honestly do condemn terrorism. However, I think it is important that for those of us who prefer not to condemn by name to know that it is still possible to condemn the actions and to not support terrorism through inaction.

 

[wilberhum]

Many of us are reluctant to openly condemn an individual by name publicaly. I can understand Wilberhums point and I do agree that it is a good way to show we honestly do condemn terrorism. However, I think it is important that for those of us who prefer not to condemn by name to know that it is still possible to condemn the actions and to not support terrorism through inaction.

To make my point, I just saw:

Abu Musab Al Zarqawi. He was getting slaughtered in the press.

 

[glo]

I agree with Wilberhum, that people who commit such terrible wrong should be openly condemned.

I wonder whether there is something about not wanting to be seen to divide the Ummah, that prevents Muslims from condemning such actions more strongly. :X

Personally I think it's a mistake.
It would increase the world's understanding of the true values of Islam, and be therefore in the interest of the Ummah, if Muslims (leaders and ordinary people) were publicly more critical about terrorist's actions.

peace.