God told Bush?

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Lol dude u took it differently than how i was presenting it. Too bad I'm not bias. Im not the one to judge. So please how bout u dont judge me either.
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wilberhum said:
Bush is a truly a religious man. Now his moral coumpas points in a different direction than mine. I think your bias has got in your way that you view reality.
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I think what Tayyaba meant is Bush can't be trusted with what he says. Facts is he lied about many things for his own selfish ends. Given the poppulation of christians in USA I think his religious exterior gives him a great advantage in influencing the nation.

I know many people with diffrent beliefs who have a similiar bias of Bush, and honestly in this case it is justified.
 
I'm fairly skeptical of this supposed conversation in the first place, but just assuming it is true, I doubt Bush would say something like this with the intention of suggesting he "talks" to God. The extent of Bush's public statements on Christianity revolve around people praying for him and how he appreciates it. Then of course his statements that freedom is a God given right. Bush is sort of a lone wolf among Western nations because he publicly declares the importance of faith in his life, and by doing so becomes the source of ridicule by Europeans, and obviously the BBC.
 
akulion said:
salam alaikum

as many of you may be aware of Bush's statements regarding God spoke to him and told him to do certain things:



Source: BBC

Now this poses a new avenue of questions for Christians in SPECIFIC:

- Do you believe what he said?

- Does God really speak to people 1-on-1 and tell them to go around doing things?

- If yes then would you believe me if I told you God told me to do something?

What if tomorrow people started killing others and said "God told me to"

Is this an acceptable excuse?

What about vigilanti justice? Should it be carried out because someone said "God told me to?"

What justification is there in this world for "God told me to" in the legal and logical sense?

These are important questions because they demonstrate 1 out of 3 possibilities:

A) Either George Bush is a liar

B) Either George Bush is a lunatic (mentally insane)

C) God is really speaking to George Bush

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So to get to my question (in particular to Christians on his board) - what do you believe out of the 3 choices above and most importanly how can you confirm that "god is speaking to someone" and its not lunacy or lies? Please provide solid evidence to back your claims.

Thanks

Aku
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Alaikumassalam, while I can amply comprehend the point being made in opening this thread; it strikes me also that there really is not much point at all in being overtly condeming of a man who is in such prominent fame.

I had a long think about perhaps what he was meaning. Sure he has probably lied often enough for us to be respectably calling him a liar; but I really believe that George Bush is not that much of an imbecile to be annoucing publically that he is with God in his own mind, as a Man whom has sat in the same room as a representatives of other nations whom are factually Moslem, without having some crediblity in what he is stating. So we really need consider what is his credibility in such rather than look to the obvious ease of flawing him. Perhaps he is tempting you to mistake his true meaning?

Now, I am neither one to want to call the man a lunatic; but I happen to believe that George Bush is one of those persons whom occasionally is wandering about and maybe he just got a look at the neighbouring persons computer screen in a moment in which he was afraid of the fact of being President of the United States, and in that moment he Prayed "God help me to get out of this", and God helped him by reminding him that there is no way out, by giving him one of those experiences of the whole adult life of another man experienced in a moment. Maybe in Allah when he wishes to not have to endure the full account of his presidency, his mind is whisked off to the Middle East to exist for a time as a soldier, just so as that he knows there is truly no way out. Perhaps he is only tempting us to believe that his experiences of such are insanity when he knows full well that some Muslims have such experiences as well; in fact any person whom has ever Dreamed is experiencing such a phenomenon.

So let us not Judge him, but only regard that his professed belief in One God and Jesus is that ground within which all Muslims will hold him amply to account. After all, we need to allocate some crediblity to that large population whom voted for him in preference to a person who was party to supporting known incidents of adultery.

I was walking down the street just the other day, and I suddenly noticed (probably right at prayer time, but I was not looking at a clock) that there was a feeling as though a large part of George Bush's awareness had suddenly centred upon my self. But what can any person equitably regard of such an incident as learning that perhaps George Bush was having a Dream of their own life. Perhaps he Dreams with Muslims precisely because Muslims are failing to digest the fact that he sure has a lot of Americans holding him accountable for having professed certainty in Jesus. After all, Jesus taught us that we must following him in death to follow him in life. I will take Mr Bush as a Christian if nobody else will; but most likely Satan has him.

Surely then no need for our accusations since he will only suppose that we relieve him a bit of his burdens.

Sadly it is that most folk who get the idea that God told them to do something, are actually mistaking a person whom has commited black magic for being God: better that they find they are confused by shaytan than confused in Allah, since that way that are at least accountible.

To answer George Bush; I would say "of course" at every turn; and expect that his Peace in the Middle East will come when there are no Muslims accusing him, and we can all trust in Allah that he also is accounted. wasalam

I should add to that here in an edit: I am in deed a Christian as well as being a Moslem, but hold no regard for the doctrine of any person whom follows a Rosicrucian influenced dogma, or imagery. wasalam
 
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Americans are dumb enough to believe it though, they believe anything that monkey says. :)
 
About the issue of God speaking to man, it reminded me about the book Angels and Demons by Dan Brown and in there the man who gets killed in the beginning Leonardo Vetra says to his daughter (long before he died obviously) that the explanation to that is the thought is already in your head but God helps to put it in your heart.

So it seems like God is speaking to them. Obviously this is not islamic and is only a fiction book but it could be the problem with Bush that he already has these ideas in his head and then he dreams about them at night. He wakes up in the morning and thinks Gods been speaking to him.

.................well it was a good try.............


;D
 
____ told Bush (Fill the blank)

Bush lives in a dream world i guess

otherwise its quite impossible for any presedent to do like him

how many people have been suffering for his ideology
(Allaah knows the actual number)

but beleive me it will more number than any could realising
 
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Alaikumassalam,

but how do we know that Bush was not in mind of "God" (however his regard for God is truly in Allah) when Katrina hit?

Maybe he . . . . No! I should not spell that out. But we really have no idea and can not have any idea of his own immediate account in Allah.

mu'asalam
 

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