Why I’m Banned in the USA

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In UK if you have a shortage of skill in an area the citizens in UK (who work, pay tax, keep econony going etc) have the right to look at other countries for that "special someone" to do their work. I thought it is the same in America...
It is. But you still need a Visa and that is issued by the government. I'm sure the same is in the UK.
 
what about american or canadians that want in places like Iran? Just because they may or may not get denied doesnt provoke them to say there is some big conspiracy behind it. Has anyone ever read the article about the Canadian journalist that entered Iran and was killed by the islamic republic for taking pictures and refusing to give up her camera. you want to see people who do not want free speech and views that do not agree with theirs the look up Zahra Kazemi. This journalist was not even a citizen of Iran and was forced to be buried there against her families will because the Iranian government didnt want anyone else to do an autopsy on her. at least if we dont want someone in our country that doesnt believe in what we do we dont kill them and deny them a proper burial
 
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I would have used a much stronger word, but as stated before G - rated posts only.


Yet prior to this you stated
Additionally, if they are allowed in, why is Tariq Ramadan not?

I hesitate to reiterate my previous statement: "double standards"

I do not know why Tariq Ramadan was not permitted into the USA because Muslims are currently migrating into the country in record numbers.

Immigrants from predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East, North Africa and Asia are planting new roots in states from Virginia to Texas to California.

In 2005, more people from Muslim countries became legal permanent United States residents — nearly 96,000 — than in any year in the previous two decades.
More than 40,000 of them were admitted last year, the highest annual number since the terrorist attacks, according to data on 22 countries provided by the Department of Homeland Security.

Many have made the journey unbowed by tales of immigrant hardship, and despite their own opposition to American policy in the Middle East. They come seeking the same promise that has drawn foreigners to the United States for many decades, according to a range of experts and immigrants: economic opportunity and political freedom.

Those lures, both powerful and familiar, have been enough to conquer fears that America is an inhospitable place for Muslims.

“America has always been the promised land for Muslims and non-Muslims,” said Behzad Yaghmaian, an Iranian exile and author of “Embracing the Infidel: Stories of Muslim Migrants on the Journey West.” “Despite Muslims’ opposition to America’s foreign policy, they still come here because the United States offers what they’re missing at home.”

For Ms. Fatima, it was the freedom to dress as she chose and work as a security guard. For Mr. Youssef, it was the chance to earn a master’s degree.

He came in spite of the deep misgivings that he and many other Egyptians have about the war in Iraq and the Bush administration. In America, he said, one needs to distinguish between the government and the people.

“Who am I dealing with, Bush or the American public?” he said. “Am I dealing with my future in Egypt or my future here?”

Muslims have been settling in the United States in significant numbers since the mid-1960’s, after immigration quotas that favored Eastern Europeans were lifted. Spacious mosques opened in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York as a new, highly educated Muslim population took hold.

Over the next three decades, the story of Muslim migration to the United States was marked by growth and prosperity. A larger percentage of immigrants from Muslim countries have graduate degrees than other American residents, and their average salary is about 20 percent higher, according to census data.

Source: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F1081FFB3F550C738DDDA00894DE404482&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fI%2fImmigration%20and%20Refugees
 
He was banned because he has donated to a charity connected to Hamas, which the US government considers a terrorist organisation. Simple, those are the rules. I think he gives himself too much credit if he thinks Bush officials decide on his visa application.

Sucks for him. I think the US government is being a bit too strict, especially since this case can be abused by those who want to attack the US. Yet, it is the perogative of the US government to decide who enters the country. And he is openly anti-American obviously, and has for example frequently said he supports attacks against US soldiers in Iraq.

Besides, Ramadan does not need to be in the US to express his views, that argument doesn't hold, it hasn't held as long as there is a printing press, let alone internet and TV. He sells many books in the US for example.
 
Well put!
Since when does any foreigner have any right to enter another country?
Entry into any country is a privilege, not a right.
Why would any country allow anyone who is critical of them to enter?


unless ofcourse they're entering with guns blazing, then its A-ok!
 
unless ofcourse they're entering with guns blazing, then its A-ok!
Some do think it is OK. I think there are circumstances where it is.
Not all, but some.
But then some think it is OK to enter a country with dynamite and nails strapped to there body.
 
you again
I doubt they think its OK, they feel it's necessary..why do you think that is?
Of course in complex situations, there are many factors.
I think the main reason is a cycle of hate that has replaced love.
 
a cycle of hate that stems from injustice...


someones coming around ;D
I have always been "around". :giggling:
Contrary to most, I look at both sides of the coin.
Most here say “I love A” and “Hate B” therefore every thing that A does to B is good. When B does the same thing, I call them evil. And I hate them for there evil. :hiding: :hiding:
 
A country has the right to allow or deny entry to whichever individuals they please. It is no different than my house, just because you ask to come in, doesn't mean I'm letting you in. I don't have to explain why.
 
All points of view save those that call for violent overthrow of the US government should be welcomed. My advice to this person would be to appeal this decision with the State Department or perhaps the Justice department and coordinate with Muslim Political Action Committees within the United States.
 

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