Assalam Alaikum
I think this thread only serves to remind my how torturously sick I am of the tit for tat rubbish that goes on of : "they think different to me so are wrong"!
Where is the evidence to substantiate any of what is being worked into out mental ability by those posting in this thread.
In tidying up my own mind (which is usually why I post; and in the intention to assist others less adept at mental gymnastics around complex issues) I find:
Post so far put in unanimity can all agree only that the Ku Klux Klan are wrong. So we have one thing right at least.
Another made the point that actually Marxists are far from terrorists and I will add that they are famous for being minimalist about blood shed. If German Marxists had known about Jihad there might not have been a second world war.
But the nitty gritty detail is that too many persons are assuming to profit from the wrongs of others. Each calling the other the greater terrorist. Why? Is it because we all feel terrified about the fact that there are persons dying in natural disasters (lets include 9/11 as an accident of nature shall we, just for this instant) whose families are feeling befret not only of the lives of their family member but from what they might have been able to account themselves in as any fault of that family member. No bones about it, that is why folk are scared. Usually when any person dies there is received by thier loved ones some mental imagery as an apology for what was not yet attended to in life. But in this age, and at this time, in these years since about 1997 I believe, people are dying and nobody is receiving.
So folk are becoming afraid. . . ("but I was counting my money for five pairs of new socks against that person, and now they are in the grave and are not accepting owning the expense of my socks") . . .
. . .. isn't this why the Americans are fighting? Isn't it because they imagine that all their accounts against American dead are being collected by Muslims? But Muslims are equally distressed since Islam is not collecting upon dead either; except and ONLY in the instance of pronouncing a Du'a. Now nothing is preventing Americans from making Du'a, is it?
Australian Aborigines are making Du'a all over the place as the only means to exist. It might not bear much immediate resemblence to modern Arab Du'a, but is the same thing. In fact, why many white Australians are able to believe in Aboriginal ancestry defining the genetic is because we seem to have an embodiment of making an extra Du'a for health of only our own self and only in the hereafter. Every time we make Du'a we make a bit extra. That is why we are here at this time keeping Peace in an astonishingly diverse and often hateful society. Point blank, no other reason. We are just lucky I guess to be genetically inclined to biologically be unable to manifest any other than make an extra Du'a whenever we are unable to discern reality.
Now, that ain't making us terrorists is it? It makes us only slaves to our own certainty. In fact, since we seem to be surrounded by Shaytan from all corners of Earth whom seem to have amassed in on our land to advantage themselves wrongly of our automated Du'a function, we are all the more slaves to our own biology. It is that the shaytan and others inclined to that way are those whom are forcing us into predicaments in which the only way out is to make another Du'a. But we can. We fear ourselves less it seems by having been conditioned ancestrally to such. Sort of well tempered to being terrified I guess. Most of our battles in antiquity seem sort of like slap stick mock battles, except that we got dead of course. But there is a different attitude to the fear that any fight embodies, and that is far more imbued with sorrow; sort of comical sorrow.
Now I am only reporting this as a contextual condition in which all my observations take place. And my major observation in reading this thread is that every accusation against any other country or belief system of being a "terrorist" or a "threat" or even only a "failure"; any accusation of manifesting any semblence of a condition that other persons fear; IS PROVEN TO BE CAUSAL TO THAT VERY CONDITION.
Let me put it another way. If a person from say (I will not use an American example, so thought to a small obscure Nation and then of the Vatican, but since that might just be too close to the bone, perhaps one of the twenty five odd distinct Nation States that independently exist within Australia - we have the most of any Nation of folk whom have Law abidingly declared their back yard its own country) a very obscure and unthreatening Nation State, were to suppose that "if" any body had got rich from 9/11 then it must have been the Muslims, and so then had imagined that Americans had a cause to account their money as the fault of Muslims, then Muslims had felt affronted and etc, well, . . . the consequences are always that if money is accounted against an imaginary phenomena that when we use such money it causes that we begin to manifest a mass delusion that brings that phenomena into being.
So by first imagining that Muslims cause terror because Qur'an is a scary read; but in a wrong supposition that a Muslim might find it pleasant that another person finds Qur'an is scary; any person with money might be able to manifest that a Muslim terrifies them so seeming to prove their point, but in fact actually only proving that they caused the "terror".
We all tend to read money as a prediciton to the future, do we not? Otherwise how could we accept it as wage. "Tomorrow I will be able to feed clothe and house a family from this . . . ." we all assume so as to be able to drag ourselves out to sell our labour.
So I mean only to recommend that if any person happens to be trying to account the fact that they can not find any work within a barter economy against any other person, they might just find that they become entirely unable to justify that in the long run, and that it becomes eventually manifestly kafr to ever suppose that money has any account against any person whose hands it did not pass through. (only The Dajjal is sick enough to imagine being abe to forgive those hands just for a moment then unforgive them again, so beware ever of its trap)
So let me here tell you. I do not ever imagine for one instance that any person is wrong towards me only by having a different experience and a different origin and thus a different point of view. A different mode of expression. If anybody is ever wrong they are wrong to Allah not me.
This is Islam, to not hold one another at wrong.
As for Jihad, it is true that in Islam we are provided with that reasoning which enables accurate perception of what manifests as signs that a fight is not resolvable and will only cause more harm if it (the fight) is let continue, than if it (the fight) is manifested to the full extent in which the aggressor every shows themself more truly, and therefore by violent end. That, as a Religion, Islam is permissive of warfare is not that Islam uses as means without reason. In fact for Jihad to be true both in killing and in being killed a Muslim soldier must be manifestly in Prayer at that moment. Being in prayer is being in Allah and so accepting full accountiblity for any kill in the most negative sense. All those whom fail to comprehend this fact of Islam are simple ignorant of what Shari'ah is content, and that it can not deny any of Torah, only superceed by new place in mind of perception in Torah. This is the insistently integral fact. Torah neither contradicts any of Shari'ah but only is placed within the mental process as though the person is a Jew by birth and long bloodline. Whereas Shari'ah is fuller in content by explicating the detail of what happened to who and what that accorded and why, such that the fulfillment of precedent is met. In fact a legal system that uses any level of precedents is more of Shari'ah and far less Torah.
So only question your self, what are you really afraid of that you ever felt inclined even to believe that terrorism could be manfiestly a part of your own world? Because when you negate the worth of any other group of people by an accusation or a "name" thrown about a bit, then they can only begin to manifest within that. This is a scientifically proven fact. A baby manifests in its health what its parents believed it capable of developing into while it was in utero. If you suppose Muslims are terrorists then that is all you will be enabled in Allah to perceive of Muslims and to your own loss. Not because any Muslim faults you or even knows that your mind faults Muslims, but because your mind will exist ever only in Allah.
Quite simply put, you do not have to be a Muslim for this to be a fact.
If you want to suppose that any evidence you experience of Allah in your own mind, is only that put there by Muslims, why then surely you only scientifically prove this that I am writing, and Allah in your mind.
So just quit speculating upon whom might or might not be a terrorist or a threat or only even who might be failing to believe. Before you speculate your own self into an Armageddon of your own imaginative faculty.
Assalam Alaikum rvq
