Atheism

[جوري]

An article for now.... I had a better one through the NEJM (New England Journal Of Medicine) I'll have to look for it some other time as I need to go to sleep now ... this was a trial for cardiac Pts. only. unlike the other study, these pts were prayed for and showed an over all 10% improv. over the other non-prayed for group.

The other study I had, included terminal/and dying pts. the outcome and therapeutic index, (P Value) of those having a strong religious system was favorable compared to those who believed in nothing! Also in terms of recovery, healing time and dealing better with bereavement ... in a nutshell, even the body favors spirituality (prayer), though the mind of some is unwilling to accept.......

ABSTRACT

INTRODUCTION






A Randomized, Controlled Trial of the Effects of Remote, Intercessory Prayer on Outcomes in Patients Admitted to the Coronary Care Unit


William S. Harris, PhD; Manohar Gowda, MD; Jerry W. Kolb, MDiv; Christopher P. Strychacz, PhD; James L. Vacek, MD; Philip G. Jones, MS; Alan Forker, MD; James H. O'Keefe, MD; Ben D. McCallister, MD


Context Intercessory prayer (praying for others) has been a common response to sickness for millennia, but it has received little scientific attention. The positive findings of a previous controlled trial of intercessory prayer have yet to be replicated.

Objective To determine whether remote, intercessory prayer for hospitalized, cardiac patients will reduce overall adverse events and length of stay.

Design Randomized, controlled, double-blind, prospective, parallel-group trial.

Setting Private, university-associated hospital.

Patients Nine hundred ninety consecutive patients who were newly admitted to the coronary care unit (CCU).

Intervention At the time of admission, patients were randomized to receive remote, intercessory prayer (prayer group) or not (usual care group). The first names of patients in the prayer group were given to a team of outside intercessors who prayed for them daily for 4 weeks. Patients were unaware that they were being prayed for, and the intercessors did not know and never met the patients.

Main Outcome Measures The medical course from CCU admission to hospital discharge was summarized in a CCU course score derived from blinded, retrospective chart review.

Results Compared with the usual care group (n=524), the prayer group (n=466) had lower meanSEM weighted (6.350.26 vs 7.130.27; P=.04) and unweighted (2.70.1 vs 3.00.1; P=.04) CCU course scores. Lengths of CCU and hospital stays were not different.

Conclusions Remote, intercessory prayer was associated with lower CCU course scores. This result suggests that prayer may be an effective adjunct to standard medical care.

Arch Intern Med. 1999;159:2273-2278

 

[Pygoscelis]

Many of these studies now exist. Overall they have shown that prayer CAN make a difference IF (and only if) the person prayed for is a believer and knows or suspects that they are being prayed for.

It is the power of positive thought at work here (as I mentioned in my previous post). The results are comparable to studies on positive thought without religion involved and comparable to the humour studies.

When those who do not know they are being prayed for repeatedly do better than than those who do know they are being prayyed for and those who are told they are being prayed for but then are not prayed for, given random distribution between these three groups, which the above study appears to be lacking then we'll have what I'd call proof that prayer works.

 

[جوري]

I guess you'll have to re-evaluate your understanding of a double blinded study then!
peace!

 

[Allah-creation]

question to the athiest

Don’t u have Doubts of ur belief that everything happened by chance, do u ever consider the possibility that a supreme being created you. Why do u need 100 Percent soled evidence. You were once a small sperm, and then your body grows with out you being aware of it. You eat food that comes out from the ground, and u see the sun shine every morning providing heat for you. You breath air that contains oxygen and cools you. You drink water that is already created for you. Don’t you have doubts about all this suddenly happening? Do u every stop 4 a moment and think everything was created by a supreme all knowing being rather then it al happened by chance. What’s the better choice? For me I feel happy of believing in God (SWT). I thank him for what he has giving me and I know my thanks are not enough and its only by his mercy that its enough. I would feel bad to just take his blessing and not thank him, just turn my face away. He has giving us humans so many blessing, why don’t u believe in him? Why do u need 100 percent proof?

 

[KAding]

Re: question to the athiest

Don’t u have Doubts of ur belief that everything happened by chance, do u ever consider the possibility that a supreme being created you.

Yes. I have occasional doubts. Not very strong doubts I must admit, and these doubts are about God, not about the reliability of organized religions. How 'God' is defined also determines how much doubt I have.

These doubts are not in the sense of fear either. If there really is a God, I can't imagine he would be so vain to require submission. Surely if he judges, he would do so based on how you behaved and regarded life, and not whether you followed some superficial ritual.

Why do u need 100 Percent soled evidence.

I don't need 100% evidence . Some evidence would be great. Although even that is not required for me personally. It must also make some sense at a basic level. I don't think the monotheistic religions make sense. I don't think they can answer some basic questions on the reasons why there is so much suffering.

You were once a small sperm, and then your body grows with out you being aware of it. You eat food that comes out from the ground, and u see the sun shine every morning providing heat for you. You breath air that contains oxygen and cools you. You drink water that is already created for you. Don’t you have doubts about all this suddenly happening? Do u every stop 4 a moment and think everything was created by a supreme all knowing being rather then it al happened by chance. What’s the better choice?

I don't have all the answers. I don't believe Islam or Christianity have all the answers either. I don't accept the basic premise that life must have a purpose beyond life itself. I don't regard water as being created specially for me or for humanity.

Besides, you can't 'choose' for God without believing in him. It is impossible to say: ok, it makes no sense to me, but I'll 'choose' for God anyway just to be safe. Who are you kidding? Surely not God?

For me I feel happy of believing in God (SWT).

Thats good. We are all unique, different things make us happy. There is no one solution or way of life that suits us all.

I thank him for what he has giving me and I know my thanks are not enough and its only by his mercy that its enough. I would feel bad to just take his blessing and not thank him, just turn my face away. He has giving us humans so many blessing, why don’t u believe in him? Why do u need 100 percent proof?

There are many blessings in life indeed. We must thank those that deserve thanks, those around us who made it possible. I can't go thank something I don't believe in.

 

[InToTheRain]

Re: question to the athiest

I don't think the monotheistic religions make sense. I don't think they can answer some basic questions on the reasons why there is so much suffering.

can you elaborate on this? what about it doesn't make sense? what do you mean by you don't think they can answer some basic question on why there is so much suffering? what do you think is causing so much suffering?

 

[KAding]

Re: question to the athiest

can you elaborate on this? what about it doesn't make sense? what do you mean by you don't think they can answer some basic question on why there is so much suffering? what do you think is causing so much suffering?

Why do babies get killed in earthquakes? Why let an individual be born to kill it before it gets a chance to pass 'the test of life'?

Why do so many 'bad' people lead comfortable lives? Why if the God is the God of Islam, why are Muslims in general in such a horrible state right now? With so much war, instability and poverty, while the immoral kafirs are thriving? I just don't get it. At the one hand we have an intervening God we are supposed to thank when good things happen. Yet when bad stuff happens we get vague answers like: "God works in mysterious ways" or "they will suffer in the afterlife". Either God intervenes to help the righteous or he does not.

It just doesn't make sense to me. At least, a whole lot less sense than an explanation that this is all part of the cycle of life, cause and effect on a grand scale. Or that life is inexplicable and so often immoral because of how humans developed, because we evolved from animals.

 

[Muhammad]

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Please use the search facility before making new threads, Jazakallahu Khayr.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Re: question to the athiest

Hello,

Those are some good questions and I will try to answer to the best of my abilities

Why do babies get killed in earthquakes? Why let an individual be born to kill it before it gets a chance to pass 'the test of life'?

If one were to ask questions such as that, then should also question our existance in the first place. Why are we here? What is the purpose of all of this, if there is a purpose in the first place?

The Quran answers this question -

51: 56. And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).

Ofcourse, since you dont believe in God, that wont be enough to convince you, but consider this. Accept that there is a God, for the sake of this discussion. Why would He create us and then put us on this Earth? We believe that God has a reason to create us and that is that we are to Worsip Him alone. He has made promised us an end, and that end depends solely on what we do here in this life.

We believe that God tests us with these kinds of things. You are aware that we believe in Paradise and Hell. Paradise is expensive. You cannot get into it easily without having being tested.

2: 155. And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.).

29: 2. Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: "We believe," and will not be tested?

3. And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars.

Why do so many 'bad' people lead comfortable lives?

The Prophet (SAW) described this world as a "…prison for the believer and a paradise for the disbeliever." Since, for a materialist who does not believe in God or the hereafter, this world is as good as it gets for him. On the contrary, for the believer who has firm faith in his heart that there is a God and an afterlife, will recognise this world as the lowest existence, unlike the materialist, who lives only for worldly pleasure. When we consider our existence, we must understand that this world is transitory and temporal and that the pleasures of this life are nothing compared to the rewards of the afterlife.

The Prophet (SAW) once compared the two beautifully when he said "The wealth of this world (dunya) is like a drop of water on the head of a pin, compared to the vast oceans of the hereafter." Islam was sent to us as a mercy, to guide us and ensure that we were amongst the successful people in this life and on the day of judgement. This world is a test for a believer who is going to heaven, while it is an all-day and all-night rave for a disbeliever who is going to hell.

Why if the God is the God of Islam, why are Muslims in general in such a horrible state right now? With so much war, instability and poverty, while the immoral kafirs are thriving? I just don't get it.

The state of the Muslims is sad indeed, but we have none to blame but ourselves. We have distanced ourselves from the religion and have turned materialistic and are in harsh pursuit of this world, thus Allah is sending upon us what you see in the world today.

Our state in the world today should not to be used to judge wheter the religion is true or not. The adherants of a religion can misrepresent it by not following it correctly and not acting upon it's teachings.

At the one hand we have an intervening God we are supposed to thank when good things happen. Yet when bad stuff happens we get vague answers like: "God works in mysterious ways" or "they will suffer in the afterlife". Either God intervenes to help the righteous or he does not.

That is not true Islamically. The good is from God and the evil is a result of our own sins.

God says in the Quran:

30: 9 ...Surely Allah (God) wronged them not, but they used to wrong themselves.

Therefore, a Muslim when he recieves good, is thankful and when he is faced with hardship is patient and he is rewarded at both times.

It just doesn't make sense to me. At least, a whole lot less sense than an explanation that this is all part of the cycle of life, cause and effect on a grand scale. Or that life is inexplicable and so often immoral because of how humans developed, because we evolved from animals.

But you would not agree that the computer you are using just came into existance out of nowhere! It had a creator, the company created it in the warehouse did it not? If such a simple thing like a computer needs to be created, how can something as complex as the Human, the animals, the plants, the Sky, the earth, the solar system, the Universe not have a Creator? How can such a perfect balance be achieved on its own? All I ask you to do is just sit down and contemplate the world around you, the human body, universe, the skies, the mountains, water, animals, plants and all the complexity involved in it.

There are many blessings in life indeed. We must thank those that deserve thanks, those around us who made it possible. I can't go thank something I don't believe in.

But the ones you believe created it, or made it possible, did not in fact create it did they? They too found it there for them already on Earth.

If there really is a God, I can't imagine he would be so vain to require submission. Surely if he judges, he would do so based on how you behaved and regarded life, and not whether you followed some superficial ritual.

Why is it a crime to plagiarize? Because you would be stealing from people their words, or for a better choice of words, the product of their intellect, the 'creation' of their intellect. So if a human who writes something deserves credit and needs his work to be attributed back to him, how then can God not command that He be worshipped when He has created all that you see and all that you dont see?

Dont know know that there was a long time when Man was a creature unheard of? And then God created him, and gave him life and places for him all the blessings on earth. Makes everything on this planet subject to him so he can use it. And then He asks you to Worship him Alone. Is that too much to ask?


And when one accepts that there is a God, then that belief leads one to accept that God being All Merciful and Just must send Guidance for Mankind so they can then decide whether they will follow that Guidance or not. That is why God sends Messengers and Prophets so they can guide mankind out of the darkness of this life to the light of the Hereafter.

Regards.

 

[جوري]

Re: question to the athiest

Why do babies get killed in earthquakes? Why let an individual be born to kill it before it gets a chance to pass 'the test of life'?.

wonders await each soul........ live to a hundred or live for a day.......No one Goes unaccounted for......
Maybe God is saving them from other horrible events that would have occured later on in life? It would seem senseless to me as well if I didn't believe in an after life....

Why do so many 'bad' people lead comfortable lives? Why if the God is the God of Islam, why are Muslims in general in such a horrible state right now? .

God is the God of all....... to be a muslim is to submit yourself to God. we don't prescribe to a different God than the Jews or christians, or even those who reflect deeply... we simply follow the laws of the final testament!
I don't know how many horrible people are living comfortably? maybe they have rare genetic disorders, maybe they have GERD. Maybe they can never enjoy a meal or a family gathering the way poor people can?
Many muslims are in a horrible state because they drove themselves there. When they focused they were a force to be reckoned with, when they were neglectful they were neglected. "Naso Allah fanas'houm"
The Prophet said: 'Allah will send humiliation upon you and will not remove it until you return to your religion.' (Sunan Abi Dawûd)

With so much war, instability and poverty, while the immoral kafirs are thriving? I just don't get it. At the one hand we have an intervening God we are supposed to thank when good things happen. Yet when bad stuff happens we get vague answers like: "God works in mysterious ways" or "they will suffer in the afterlife". Either God intervenes to help the righteous or he does not..

A mysterious thing the affair of the Muslim... should he suffer and be grateful he is rewarded... should he attain bliss and is thankful he is again rewarded.....if you love the immediate then eat drink and be merry........ though it is a conundrum for even mindless ants work all summer for the ensuing winter, though they know not whether a winter will be harsh, whether there will be food anyway regardless of their labor, or even know whether they will live to enjoy the fruits of their labor....... a lesser being so much smarter than many humans..... it is a wonderous thing, yet here we are with utmost insolence asking for that which is obviousely beyond our comprehension.....

It just doesn't make sense to me. At least, a whole lot less sense than an explanation that this is all part of the cycle of life, cause and effect on a grand scale. Or that life is inexplicable and so often immoral because of how humans developed, because we evolved from animals.

You deal with generalities... you will get generalities for answers... if you evolved from a moneky or a donkey........ more power to you........ The rest of us know better..........
simple 2nd Law of Thermodynamics calls for a focus in one area corresponds to depletion and disorganization somewhere else... (if you don't see it now... you must see it at some point?) so if you think you can do as you please and have no consequence you must think all them physicists were off in their theories. which in an of itself would be very contradictory to all that science you subscribe to. BTW don't you think all those evolution theories would have made extinct all the gay people on the planet? (think about it) How many flaws are you willing to accept in your theories yet mocking those who choose God over flawed nonesense?
[Shakir 50:19] And the stupor of death will come in truth; that is what you were trying to escape.

---Guess those who are wise and clement will just have to wait, for you too are in waiting

peace

 

[InToTheRain]

Why do babies get killed in earthquakes? Why let an individual be born to kill it before it gets a chance to pass 'the test of life'?

Why do so many 'bad' people lead comfortable lives? Why if the God is the God of Islam, why are Muslims in general in such a horrible state right now? With so much war, instability and poverty, while the immoral kafirs are thriving? I just don't get it. At the one hand we have an intervening God we are supposed to thank when good things happen. Yet when bad stuff happens we get vague answers like: "God works in mysterious ways" or "they will suffer in the afterlife". Either God intervenes to help the righteous or he does not..

Kading...you aren't looking at this objectively if you are going to let your emotions have a prejudice against the existence of God. If this is your argument against the existence of God, then know that it is an emotional one.

The question is the same as why did the Lord create death in the first place? Why not endless life filled with pleasures and bowls of roses?

Because this life is not the purpose of existence but only a brief moment in the endless time promised human beings (hence Satan is enraged with envy against them), and these cataclysms are tests of faith as well as purifications for the believers as are all sufferings and indeed all joys on this earth.

For our Prophet said, upon him and his Family blessings and peace, that even a mosquito bite erases the sins and raises the degrees of a Believer; non-believers, on the other hand, are unable to see other than suffering and are stuck with "Ouch" instead of remembrance of their Lord. And yet! On their death-beds even *they* cry out My God, my God.

You say the Immoral Kaffirs are thriving? What make you say this? I live in the UK, London and I tell you now it is one of the most misarable country ever! Sure they live a life of abundance, but are they happy? Do you honestly think having all the money in the world, woman in the world and fame can give you happiness? Is this your purpose in life? lets look at some of the people who attained such things - Marylin Monroe: commited suicide. Elvis Presley: soooo hooked up on drugs, he needed it to sleep, wake up, eat etc. Infact anything that helps them escape reality for a second makes them happy... it shows that humans aren't just evolved monkeys who can be satisfied by having a banana given to them...

It just doesn't make sense to me. At least, a whole lot less sense than an explanation that this is all part of the cycle of life, cause and effect on a grand scale. Or that life is inexplicable and so often immoral because of how humans developed, because we evolved from animals.

what would you call a guy who says he thinks the McLaren-F1 was created or has a probability of bieng created after a Hurricane comes around, picks up all the debris, then connects the debris together by random chance to leave a McLaren-F1 in Immaculate condition when the hurricane stops. Would you call him rational? intelligent? clever? NO!...to put it lightly the person has a few screws loose in his head. If you cannot fathom this them how can you say the world as we see it has a probability of occuring?

 

[root]

what would you call a guy who says he thinks the McLaren-F1 was created or has a probability of bieng created after a Hurricane comes around, picks up all the debris, then connects the debris together by random chance to leave a McLaren-F1 in Immaculate condition when the hurricane stops. Would you call him rational? intelligent? clever? NO!...to put it lightly the person has a few screws loose in his head. If you cannot fathom this them how can you say the world as we see it has a probability of occuring?

This nonsense only convinces those who already believe in creationism.

You deal with generalities... you will get generalities for answers... if you evolved from a moneky or a donkey........ more power to you........ The rest of us know better..........
simple 2nd Law of Thermodynamics calls for a focus in one area corresponds to depletion and disorganization somewhere else... (if you don't see it now... you must see it at some point?) so if you think you can do as you please and have no consequence you must think all them physicists were off in their theories. which in an of itself would be very contradictory to all that science you subscribe to. BTW don't you think all those evolution theories would have made extinct all the gay people on the planet? (think about it) How many flaws are you willing to accept in your theories yet mocking those who choose God over flawed nonesense?

You really did generalise;

Are only "people" gay then?

PS

The use of thermodynamics in biology has a long history rich in confusion — Harold J. Morowitz

http://www.panspermia.org/seconlaw.htm

 

[Woodrow]

Let us all just face the simple fact.

A true non-believer will never have the proof to become a believer.

A believer only reguires a tiny speck of faith.

Never will the twain meet. Let us just acknowledge our differences, accept The fact we are not going to change each other and go on with our lives. those of us who are Believers will never budge a solid non-believer and a non-Believer is not going to sway our faith.

Pointless discussion.

 

[root]

I quite agree;

its generally not worth the effort of trying to convince an athiest to believe that what he logically knows to be a fact is incorrect; likewise, it is usually not worth the effort of trying to logically prove that a religious persons beliefs are incorrect. For an athiest, logic usually trumps belief; and belief trumps logic for a creationist.

 

[جوري]

This nonsense only convinces those who already believe in creationism.



You really did generalise;

Are only "people" gay then?

PS

The use of thermodynamics in biology has a long history rich in confusion — Harold J. Morowitz

http://www.panspermia.org/seconlaw.htm

I beg your pardon? I didn't understand your disjointed fragments.....
--even if animals were observed to engage in homosexual behavior; and evolution were true, they too would have been wiped out for the same exact reasons.... (again think about it)
you are in fact attesting to the argument, not putting a flaw in it!

on a seperate note, I am sure you can always google a site that will attest to your train of thoughts ....... it is far more impressive when you have your own, and can address others in a civilized non-trangressing, and engaging manner!

If evolution and all that it entails (flaws or not) suits you, by all means. It is not my purpose to convince you otherwise... nor am I interested really in how you live your life or what you do with it.
peace!

 

[Pygoscelis]

Never will the twain meet. Let us just acknowledge our differences, accept The fact we are not going to change each other and go on with our lives. those of us who are Believers will never budge a solid non-believer and a non-Believer is not going to sway our faith.

Pointless discussion.

Agreed.

Because it all depends on your outlook.

Your belief or non-belief in a deity is part of the foundation of who you are.

If you already accept and worship your God there are things in place within your belief system to halt your questioning, often including the concepts of heaven and hell (or other punishment/reward system for belief), the society you live in, misconceptions about non-believers (they are immoral for God is the only source of morality, they are evil, they have no sense of purpose, they are depressed, etc).

Further, to lose faith in God is to shake a believer's entire foundation, and the believer simply will not allow that to happen from an external force such as a nonbeliever's arguments. Only an internal process can effect deconversion and emotion is NEEDED. No amount of logic or reason will deconvert somebody.

Moreover the believer may view the nonbeliever as testing his faith, thus entrenching that faith and turning an open mind to a closed argumentative and defensive mind.

Same can be said for a non-believer.

It is my firm belief that no non-believer has ever been converted to a religion based on logic and reason. Emotion and cultural forces are always the reason.

Something traumatic may happen and the nonbeliever may need to find a religious belief that "its all for the best" or "it will all be okay" etc. Or the believer may be living a troubled life and find the promise of heaven or the fellowship of churchgoers attractive.

 

[InToTheRain]

This nonsense only convinces those who already believe in creationism.

You who claim to be logical have not said anything to counter what I have said. Acting on emotion and shrugging off what I have said as "Non-sense" just shows your arrogant and have only made the statement to feed your false ego...

For an athiest, logic usually trumps belief; and belief trumps logic for a creationist.

I agree with you and I see where your coming from, logic also says the earth is NOT round...you must have a rational and objective approach in order to come to the understanding that there is a God...clearly you lack these qualities. If you will say people who believe in God act on belief then you must also say the same for Athiests as it is also based on belief. Amongst the Athiests the most ignorant are those who think that mankind being evolved monkeys is a fact, they are also hypocrites for accepting this as a fact. After all...It is an evolution THEORY <--- HINT! HINT!


And Allah azza wa Jal said:

(the example of those who disbelieve...) meaning, in their injustice, misguidance and ignorance, they are just like wandering animals, not understanding what they are told; if the shepherd heralds them or calls them to what benefits them, they would not understand what is actually being said to them, for they only hear unintelligible sounds. This is what is reported from Ibn `Abbas, Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, `Ikrimah, `Ata', Al-Hasan, Qatadah, `Ata' Al-Khurasani and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas.

(They are deaf, dumb, and blind.) means, they are deaf, as they do not hear the truth; mute, as they do not utter it; and blind, as they do not see or recognize its path and way.

 

[root]

--even if animals were observed to engage in homosexual behavior;

I like your choice of word, perhaps we are better replacing your "if" with something that better reflects reality.

and evolution were true, they too would have been wiped out for the same exact reasons.... (again think about it)

Here is a little interesting fact for you; whenever UK doctors and surgeons hold a general strike (yes it has been known from time to time) less people die! Perhaps if we employ your sense of reasoning we should sack all doctors and reduce the UK's death rate!

Besides, I can't see why I would need to re-evaluate homosexuality with evolution since we currently have a list of over 450 homosexual practicing vertebrate species. Which coincidently begs the question, if God was so against it why did he "create" (please take that term with a pinch of salt) homosexual practicing species!

Good luck............

 

[Grace Seeker]

Hmmmmmm!

That reminds me this story:

Isaac Newton, had invited a scientist-friend of his, a man who professed atheism to dine with him. Seeking to corner his friend with his own arguments, Newton placed a model of the solar system on his table and invited his friend to view it. Upon examining it, Newton’s friend exclaimed, “what a marvellous craftsmanship!” Who fashioned this exquisite model?” Newton replied casually, “This model has no maker, it materialised from nothing.” Disbelief written large on his face, the friend asked, “What do you mean?” To this, Newton smiled and replied, “How can you my friend, insist that this model has to have a maker, while vehemently denying the existence of a divine Creator?”

Moral: If a model of the solar system must have a creator then what about the gigantic solar system itself? Let us worship that Creator who has created you and me.

Good story. Mind if I borrow it to share with others?

 

[Pygoscelis]

If homosexuality is genetic, evolution would not whipe it out if

1. It is a recessive trait, carried but not activated in some.

2. It is a continuum rather than a binary thing.

3. Social forces can inhibit it.

4. Homosexuals are physically capable of heterosexual sex and may engage in it for various reasons.

5. It is a frequent mutation of the 'heterosexual gene'

And I'm sure there are more, but thats what I can think of off the top of my head.