iran president on holocaust

IsaAbdullah said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfD5d_s59s... well except the part about him feeling an aura around him
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And maybe this stuff...


Iranian President Sees End of World Order
Kenneth R. Timmerman, NewsMax.com
Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2006


In a country of religious zealots, the extremism of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has even his own countrymen sounding alarms


Dissidents within Iran say their country's president is such a crazed fanatic that he will try to usher in the end of the world as we know it.



On Dec. 16, gunmen opened fire on the motorcade of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as he toured the southeastern province of Sistan, along Iran's border with Pakistan.




According to news reports, Ahmadinejad's personal bodyguard and driver were killed in the ambush, although the president was unhurt. The government-controlled media in Tehran attributed the attack to "bandits," a term used to denote a wide range of armed groups, from drug dealers to opposition guerrillas.

But in this case, the attack may have been part of a plot to remove the Iranian president by a faction within the ruling clergy. At least, so believes a Western source who has just returned from talks with top officials in Tehran.



The faction seeking to remove Ahmadinejad does not object to the substance of the Iranian president's repeated vows to "wipe Israel from the map" and destroy America. Nor do they believe Iran should abandon its secret nuclear weapons program, top Iranian government officials said, according to the source.

Rather, they object to the fact that he has made such comments openly and without ambiguity. They believe that his frankness dangerously exposes them to attack from the United States, Israel or both.



"This guy is not a politician," the source quoted one top Iranian official as saying. "He is certifiably insane. And he is obsessed with the Imam Zaman," the legendary 12th imam, or Imam Mahdi, whom many Shiite Muslims believe will return in the "end times" after a period of horrific battles, famine and pestilence.



Americans may find it curious that government officials in Tehran, who have actively supported the Islamic republic for years, object to Ahmadinejad's religious zealotry. After all, this comes in a regime whose constitution declares that the supreme leader is God's representative on earth whose edicts can not be challenged by elected representatives.


But for more than two decades, Iranian leaders such as former President Hashemi Rafsanjani have walked a fine line between openly defying the United States and conducting covert aggression through terrorists and sophisticated intelligence operations. Under Ahmadinejad, these officials believe, that fine line has been crossed.


Ahmadinejad's messianic beliefs and his obsession with the 12th imam have become an open subject of debate in Tehran. Meeting with his cabinet shortly after taking office last August, the new president reportedly had Cabinet members sign a loyalty oath to the 12th imam, which they dropped into a well near where the Shiite messiah is believed to be hiding.


In September, when Ahmadinejad took the podium to address the United Nations in New York City, he felt surrounded by light. It wasn't the stage lighting, he said. It was a light from heaven.


He related his otherworldly experience in a videotaped meeting with a prominent ayatollah in Tehran. A transcript of his comments and sections of the videotape wound up on a hard-line, pro-regime Web site, baztab.com


Ahmadinejad's "vision" at the United Nations could be dismissed as pure political posturing if it weren't for a string of similar statements and actions that clearly suggest he believes he is destined to bring about the return of the Shiite messiah.


The mystical 12th imam, who is venerated by many in Iran, disappeared as a child in the year 941. Shiite Muslims believe he will return and rule for seven years in perfect justice.


In a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, Ahmadinejad said that the main mission of his government was to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi (May God Hasten His Reappearance)."


Reports in government media outlets in Tehran have quoted Ahmadinejad as having told regime officials that the 12th imam will reappear in two years. That was too much for Iranian legislator Akbar Alami, who publicly questioned Ahmadinejad's judgment, saying that even Islam's holiest figures have never made such claims.


At the same time he has made such statements, the new president has repeatedly vowed to pursue Iran's nuclear programs, in open defiance of the International Atomic Energy Agency and European Union negotiators.


While many Shiite Muslims worship the 12th imam, a previously secret society of powerful clerics, now openly advising the new president, are transforming these messianic beliefs into government policies.


Led by Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, who frequently appears with Ahmadinejad, the Hojatieh society is considered by many Shiite Muslims as their own bona fide lunatic fringe. During the early years of the Islamic Revolution, even Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini found their beliefs too extreme for public commerce and sent them scurrying underground.


Since taking the reins of government in August, Ahmadinejad has placed Hojatieh devotees in his Cabinet and through the bureaucracy, where they are leading a crackdown on students, women, Western music and religious minorities.


On Nov. 22, a Christian pastor was murdered after the president told a gathering of some 30 provincial governors, "I will stop Christianity in this country." Other Christians have been arrested and Bibles confiscated in recent weeks.


The president's opponents within the regime believe that the widespread replacement of competent bureaucrats with Hojatieh supporters having little government experience could prove fatal to him. "The new guys don't know what they are doing, and the fired people are angry," said the source who just returned from Tehran. "So there is a window of opportunity."



But hints of "regime change from within," carried by emissaries to Washington, may not be enough to deter the United States and Israel from using military force to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.



"The business community in Iran is afraid of two things," the source who just returned from Tehran told NewsMax. "They are afraid of international sanctions, and they are afraid of a military strike by the U.S. or Israel. And they believe Ahmadinejad is bringing both."


American Enterprise Institute scholar and former CIA operations officer Reuel Marc Gerecht agrees that the new president could be a blessing in disguise for those who would support regime change in Iran.


"The only way Iran is going to get better is for it to get a lot worse -- and Ahmadinejad may just possibly be the man to galvanize a broad-based opposition to the regime," he wrote recently.


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This dude is one wacky hombre !!
 
lets assume he is the worht human ever being, this is not answer to my question !!!

question is :

im intrested in knowing whether british and american are really peacefull as they claim to be or not,
peacefull = when i say peacefull i mean someone who wants to help poor and fight shrewds in order to bring justice and doesnt care how much he has to pay for it and its regardless of whether he is doing it for his own people or others (its just humality),
so do you think this represents american and british governments?
or not ?
do you tthink on the bases which i defined peace, is peace is something that you see as their first priority ???

ofcourse a typical ordinary british guy is going to say they are peacefull,

i want to hear people who read books, heared other peoples view, know about history, and at least lived in diffrent countries and heard from more than one media!!!
not a typical guy!!!!
 
I totally agree with the President on the part about the Palistinians. They had nothing to do with the 'holocaust', yet they are having to pay the price. Also much worse things have happened to them like the numberous massaca's taking place in the holy land of Palestine, but no-one ever remembers that!
 
luvziran
did u listen to the video which i posted at the begining of the thread?,

i dont want to discuss this anymore, its getting no where, i think its clear,

go to youtube.com and type absue see how many videos of american and british you will find out abusing iraqis ???
if they really wanted freedom for iraq and fighting dectator,
and for peacefull reason and because they think some pple are brain washed then why would they
do this to kids?? go and watch ,

in uk no british police can harm citizen , why do i see videos british solders abusing kids ????

hmmmmmm, so peacefull huh, luvziran
i hope they keep such peace on u , and people who think they are peacefull so u undrestand and feel it,

watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkXu1UVTSzU

very important *******************
why do i think they are not peacefull
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if they are peacefull they shouldnt act like this even if we assume they are fighting terrorist and brain washed !!! yes you heard it right, becasue you claim that they are brain washed !! and you are going there to help them for peace you are valunteering togo there for peace, dont go if you dont care,
its good proof that what they claim is wrong
 
khoshtip_uk said:
luvziran
...go to youtube.com and type absue see how many videos of american and british you will find out abusing iraqis ??? ...
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I can also find plenty of videos of 'freedom fighters' sawing peoples heads off and setting off car-bombs in crowded markets. Tons of sectarian killings. Iraqis killing Iraqis.
 
If the U.S. and U.K. stopped giving aid to the rest of the world, millions of people would starve. What alterior motive is there ?
 
luvziran said:
I can also find plenty of videos of 'freedom fighters' sawing peoples heads off and setting off car-bombs in crowded markets. Tons of sectarian killings. Iraqis killing Iraqis.
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i know you can find many other videos in youtube.com

but thats not related to my thread, dont change the subject,
please read question properly and answer yes or no based on what your undrestanding is and try to justify it thats it.
im trying to prove a point and managed to do it, im not going to keep writing the same stuff again and again,
you read more,act neutural toward your views and other pples view and be strong and able to accept your weaknesses, and god blesses you !!!

bye
 
I have but one thing to say and it very much makes me laugh! The US can't bring peace to their country, how would they expect to bring peace to the world? I won't deny it if they truly are but if u cant control your own country, your wasting time trying to bring it everywhere. Start inside then out. And a country isn't any bigger than the entire globe!
 
Tayyaba said:
I have but one thing to say and it very much makes me laugh! The US can't bring peace to their country, how would they expect to bring peace to the world? I won't deny it if they truly are but if u cant control your own country, your wasting time trying to bring it everywhere. Start inside then out. And a country isn't any bigger than the entire globe!
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Should the U.S. stop feeding all the people that they feed around the world, also ?
 
luvziran said:
I can also find plenty of videos of 'freedom fighters' sawing peoples heads off and setting off car-bombs in crowded markets. Tons of sectarian killings. Iraqis killing Iraqis.
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Lol so now theres a comparison between so called freedom fighters and a country's army which goes to liberate another country?

Lol I wouldnt have thought they could be compared. But I guess that they can now.
 
i dont exactly know whether they should or not, maybe you should ask MR Bush,

anyway this is not related to my thread (as usuall)

the question is still not answered ,

i would like to hear everyones voice,
either yes or no


yes they are wrong and occupying

no they are purly peacefull.


one vote per person,

god bless everyone
 
Erm, ewww, what dishonest, untruthful, disgusting soldiers, :( I feel so sorry for their parents, may G-d prevent my children from ever turning into unhuman creatures who beat on those who are bound and ddefensless. Theyshould release all their names and pictures. :(
 

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