Stoning

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Skillganon said:
I think with a stone. Ask brother Ansar or check all his posts. He seem to dealt with it extensively
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Are they meanto be covered, i.e. over their faces and so on and put into holes so they cant get out, I saw a video edit of some stoning it was so upsetting. imsad imsad
 
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EDIT: Until I think of something better to say. No good mentioning the video, people will go and see.
 
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Al Habeshi said:
Are they meanto be covered, i.e. over their faces and so on and put into holes so they cant get out, I saw a video on youtube of some stoning it was so upsetting. imsad imsad
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Well of course it is upsetting, its a punishment for their sin, it isnt meant to be easy. But lok at the bright side, inshaallah that person will be forgiven of their sin because they had the punishment done on them.

From what I know, waht you described is correct, but I'm not sure about the head covering.
 
I have seen pictures of stoning done both ways with and without head coverings. I can not remember what countries did which.
 
Woodrow said:
I have seen pictures of stoning done both ways with and without head coverings. I can not remember what countries did which.
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Man, for real? was their head all disfigured?

Man wallahi not that i ever tought about adultery but the thing is definetly an undetterent.

Argh. they were all moving around and tryint go I dont know, but half of their body was stuck in the ground, what upset me, and also made me think that this wasnt totally done islamicly was the fact that people were like shouting and cheering which reminded me of when someone was cursing or saying something bad about someone and he was told, I THINK, not to help shaytan against the person.
 
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^I'm not sure of if we are talking about the same incident, but in one stoning event a person got the criminals blood on him and he cursed her, and the prophet pbuh told him not to curse her because Allah swt had forgivener her. Something like that.

Cheering? How sad can a person get. Perhaps they forget that they are not sinless themselves. ^o)
 
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The punishment of stoning is the hadd punishment for the married adulterer, which essentially entails that it functions exclusively as a deterrent. Here's why. To apply this punishment you need four witnesses to the actual act of penetration who observed it from four different angles and if there is even the slightest contradiction in the most minute details of their testimony, they are punished with eighty lashes for false accusation of adultery. Thus, the implementation of the hadd punishment for zina is a practical impossibility. As the fatwâ committee under the supervision of Shaykh 'Abdul-Wahâb At-Turaryrî notes:
It is not enough for four people to show up at court and give testimony. The witnesses and their backgrounds have to be carefully scrutinized by the courts to determine their trustworthiness and honesty. They have to be able to demonstrate that they saw the crime. It is not easy to explain how one was able to witness such an act without being guilty of any wrongdoing oneself. The witnesses have to see actual sexual penetration. This is not an easy thing to explain.

 If the condition of four witnesses of determined trustworthiness is not fulfilled, each of those who accused the person of adultery is given 80 lashes with a whip as the punishment for bearing false witness.

 Allah says: “And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations), flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors.” [Sûrah al-Nûr: 4]

The punishments for fornication and adultery are designed more to protect society from the open practice of licentious sexual behavior than they are designed to punish people.

 It is nearly impossible to get a conviction for adultery except in a case where it is carried out in public for all eyes to see. With this threat of severe punishment, people will keep their evil deeds concealed and society as a whole will be protected.
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It is worth noting that in the 1400 years of Islamic history, these stringent conditions have never been met even once. And due to the deterrent effect, sexual immorality is suffocated and eradicated in an Islamic society.

In spite of all this, if the impossibility became reality and the punishment were to be carried out, then how would it be done? For the person who is convicted of such a heinous licentious act they would be placed in a pit and pelted to death while covered by a cloth so that their 'awrah is not exposed. If it is by confession and not conviction, they would have the opportunity to retract their confession at any point in time and so they would not be placed in a pit. No one is allowed to curse the person who undergoes this or express pleasure.

For the reasons outlined above, it is evident that whatever movie you have seen could by no stretch of the imagination be construed as Islamic, as this punishment is a practical impossibility and even then would never occur in the manner described.

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I believe Bro. Ansar answered it all sufficiently and his last sentence is an excellent summation.

For the reasons outlined above, it is evident that whatever movie you have seen could by no stretch of the imagination be construed as Islamic, as this punishment is a practical impossibility and even then would never occur in the manner described.
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With that in mind even though there are woman who have been stoned and there are even movies and pictures of the stoning. No matter what is said, these are not examples of Islamic Punishment by stoning. They are cases of murder of a woman.
 
Stoning ultimately leads to death through multiple injuries and internal bleeding - either through injuries to internal organs, or (if buried partially in the ground) through multiple head injuries ...

I don't know how large the stones tend to be, but the resulting injuries would be substantial.

imsad
 
glo said:
Stoning ultimately leads to death through multiple injuries and internal bleeding - either through injuries to internal organs, or (if buried partially in the ground) through multiple head injuries ...

I don't know how large the stones tend to be, but the resulting injuries would be substantial.

imsad
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Suitable punishment for any cheaters out there, Break My heart I'll break their skulls :D
 
ASlamuAlaykum,

i don't get it.

It's sad if people are cheering while it's being done, i mean they gonna get punished in hell anyway...right?

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tasmiyah_B said:
ASlamuAlaykum,

i don't get it.

It's sad if people are cheering while it's being done, i mean they gonna get punished in hell anyway...right?

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Actually the person who recieves a hadd punishment for their offence in this life is completely absolved of the sin and much more, so they wouldn't get punished for it in the next life.

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AsalamuAlaykum,

oh ok, jazakhala.

Sorry i can't rep you :oS
 
^ i dont think it matters, he will be cleaned and clothed and given an appropriate burial afterwards anyway.
 

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