Racist spits at Muslim on train

[Durrah]

I wonder if anyone else on the train came to her defense...

I doubt it. One muslim sister got punched in the nose after 9/11 on the london underground, whilst she was on the tube by some man- who'd attacked her for no other reason then being muslim (she was wearing a headscarf). An old lady offered her a tissue to wipe the blood off her nose, but no-one came to her aid.

Another sister in Scotland was smacked over the head with a bottle by a man after 9/11 as well, in a full bus with passengers and no-one in the bus helped her, even though she was bleeding. The bus driver didnt even stop for her or call ambulance- he just let her out on the next stop and drove off. She was also wearing a headscarf at the time of attack.

In both instances, they're were many wtinesses but yet they all remain silent and unmoved from their chairs when these attacks too place- men and women.

So, do i think anyone rushed to help this hijabi woman who was being intmidated and aggresively hassled by three men? I doubt it, but i hope someone did.

If none of those women were unreconsiable as muslims and looked like any other asian or white woman, would they have been helped more? Yes!

Sad really because had i been there, whether the victim was muslim or no muslim, i'd never watch that happen to someone and stay silent. Even if i couldnt confront the aggersor out of fear of being harmed, i wouldnt walk away from someone hurt and atleast see if they're ok or if they need any police/ambulance or something. I would have thought that most people would do that as well, but it turns out not to be the case.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Slander and verbal assault are crimes. And they should be.

However, there should not be a special category of "hate crimes". The crime is the crime regardless of motivation.

The wrongdoer should get the same punishment for racist slander as for slander about other things, like personal history or family association or appearance or whatever.

I think the court handled this case right.

 

[Malaikah]

I doubt it. One muslim sister got punched in the nose after 9/11 on the london underground, whilst she was on the tube by some man- who'd attacked her for no other reason then being muslim (she was wearing a headscarf). An old lady offered her a tissue to wipe the blood off her nose, but no-one came to her aid.

Another sister in Scotland was smacked over the head with a bottle by a man after 9/11 as well, in a full bus with passengers and no-one in the bus helped her, even though she was bleeding. The bus driver didnt even stop for her or call ambulance- he just let her out on the next stop and drove off. She was also wearing a headscarf at the time of attack.

ffended: ffended: You dont have much of a friendly country there do you... :uuh:

 

[Sabbir_1]

who was this p***, werent there any people around to help her.. i would kicked that dum sob ass.. whats there problem whay they attacking lady for, yh they thik there big cuz they spat at a muslim lady. buch of idiots

... they should lock these peole for life..

''described it as the worst scene of violent abuse he had seen in his life''
well u should of done something or atleast of said something.. what about the kids what u think how he must of felt.. callin him the next suicide bomber.. watching his mother being spit at u think hes gonna forget that..

 

[SilentObserver]

who was this p***, werent there any people around to help her.. i would kicked that dum sob ass.. whats there problem whay they attacking lady for, yh they thik there big cuz they spat at a muslim lady. buch of idiots

... they should lock these peole for life..

''described it as the worst scene of violent abuse he had seen in his life''
well u should of done something or atleast of said something.. what about the kids what u think how he must of felt.. callin him the next suicide bomber.. watching his mother being spit at u think hes gonna forget that..

I agree with you that the bahaviour was disgusting, and others should have defended her. But do you really think you could have "kicked that dum sob ass"? What if he planted you firmly on your bottom on the floor of the train? What help would you be to the woman then?

 

[glo]

I doubt it. One muslim sister got punched in the nose after 9/11 on the london underground, whilst she was on the tube by some man- who'd attacked her for no other reason then being muslim (she was wearing a headscarf). An old lady offered her a tissue to wipe the blood off her nose, but no-one came to her aid.

Another sister in Scotland was smacked over the head with a bottle by a man after 9/11 as well, in a full bus with passengers and no-one in the bus helped her, even though she was bleeding. The bus driver didnt even stop for her or call ambulance- he just let her out on the next stop and drove off. She was also wearing a headscarf at the time of attack.

In both instances, they're were many wtinesses but yet they all remain silent and unmoved from their chairs when these attacks too place- men and women.

So, do i think anyone rushed to help this hijabi woman who was being intmidated and aggresively hassled by three men? I doubt it, but i hope someone did.

Sad really because had i been there, whether the victim was muslim or no muslim, i'd never watch that happen to someone and stay silent. Even if i couldnt confront the aggersor out of fear of being harmed, i wouldnt walk away from someone hurt and atleast see if they're ok or if they need any police/ambulance or something. I would have thought that most people would do that as well, but it turns out not to be the case.

Those are terrible incidents, Durrah! :uuh:

If none of those women were unreconsiable as muslims and looked like any other asian or white woman, would they have been helped more? Yes!

I am not sure that this is a racial or anti-Muslim problem.
Rather I think that people nowadays are generally reluctant ot 'get involved' and 'interfere' in our society.

Sad, but true ... :-\

Peace

 

[north_malaysian]

Malaysians could be racists ... but never heard such a thing like that happen here...:grumbling

 

[SilentObserver]

If none of those women were unreconsiable as muslims and looked like any other asian or white woman, would they have been helped more? Yes!

I am not sure that this is a racial or anti-Muslim problem.
Rather I think that people nowadays are generally reluctant ot 'get involved' and 'interfere' in our society.

Sad, but true ... :-\

Peace

The reason I believe is that people are afraid that they will be harmed as well. If the men are very aggressive people will be afraid.

 

[glo]

The reason I believe is that people are afraid that they will be harmed as well. If the men are very aggressive people will be afraid.

I agree to some extend.
If there was a bottle-wielding maniac on the bus I probably wouldn't challenge him either!
But if several people took action, it would be a different matter!!

And there are other things which individuals could do to help.

Like the old lady who offered her hanky.

With the muslimah who was just dropped off at the bus stop despite bleeding, somebody could have gotten off with her to make sure she was alright and got home!

If nothing else people can raise these issues publicly, write letters to the paper or their MP.

There is always something that can be done ...

Peace

 

[Bittersteel]

BBC Breaking NEWS:Racist Stares at Muslim man in Bus.

*sigh*

 

[SilentObserver]

I agree to some extend.
If there was a bottle-wielding maniac on the bus I probably wouldn't challenge him either!
But if several people took action, it would be a different matter!!

And there are other things which individuals could do to help.

Like the old lady who offered her hanky.

With the muslimah who was just dropped off at the bus stop despite bleeding, somebody could have gotten off with her to make sure she was alright and got home!

If nothing else people can raise these issues publicly, write letters to the paper or their MP.

There is always something that can be done ...

Peace

You are right.

I like to think I would help if in such a situation.

 

[Maarya]

salam

... and this country says its the best multricultrual country in the world! lol

my uncle woz on the same train as the one that got bombed, but he caught the one before it (if u understand wt i mean)
and when he woz coming home from work he had to leave all his tools at work, at the BBC, just in case the police checked him and sed that he woz makin bombs (he's a young muslim),
he sed that wen he caught the bus to the station in the afternoon, an arab muslim lady came on the bus and as soon as she came on 4 or 5 white ppl came off the bus. its sad.

well, thats ma story
wslm

 

[Sabbir_1]

''an arab muslim lady came on the bus and as soon as she came on 4 or 5 white ppl came off the bus''

Good more space on the bus for other passengers..

 

[Umar001]

If I was NOT Muslim I'd chop his hand off set an example to other people, I mean what must the children think, imagine that, the person you look upto the most, the person who is supposed to make you feel that everything is secure and you see her abused and threatned, it will have such a bad effect on those kids for real though, I mean the guy, from what I read, has beating another person or something, so definetly, chop his hand or his tongue off.

And hopefully more sisters will go with husbands and brothers to events inshaAllah, not that the husband is super man and can take any thread out, but it can be a good deterent.

 

[glo]

If I was NOT Muslim I'd chop his hand off set an example to other people, I mean what must the children think, imagine that, the person you look upto the most, the person who is supposed to make you feel that everything is secure and you see her abused and threatned, it will have such a bad effect on those kids for real though, I mean the guy, from what I read, has beating another person or something, so definetly, chop his hand or his tongue off.

And hopefully more sisters will go with husbands and brothers to events inshaAllah, not that the husband is super man and can take any thread out, but it can be a good deterent.

Whatever do you mean, you would chop his hand off?? :uuh:

 

[Sabbir_1]

I agree but not his hand, cut his tounge...

 

[England]

salam

... and this country says its the best multricultrual country in the world! lol

my uncle woz on the same train as the one that got bombed, but he caught the one before it (if u understand wt i mean)
and when he woz coming home from work he had to leave all his tools at work, at the BBC, just in case the police checked him and sed that he woz makin bombs (he's a young muslim),
he sed that wen he caught the bus to the station in the afternoon, an arab muslim lady came on the bus and as soon as she came on 4 or 5 white ppl came off the bus. its sad.

well, thats ma story
wslm

Multiculturalism doesn't work. Islam and Christianity doesn't mix. Christians are tolerant of other religions, too tolerant at times. There will be a few that will actually lose it and this is an example of that.

 

[Keltoi]

Multiculturalism doesn't work. Islam and Christianity doesn't mix. Christians are tolerant of other religions, too tolerant at times. There will be a few that will actually lose it and this is an example of that.

I agree that multiculturalism hasn't been a great success so far, but this issue really doesn't have anything to do with that. This was just a completely rude act upon an innocent person. Doesn't matter whether the woman is Muslim or Christian, any verbal attack upon a woman minding her own business should be condemned by all.

 

[Woodrow]

Multiculturalism is very workable. If only we would all live as we say we believe.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Doesn't matter whether the woman is Muslim or Christian, any verbal attack upon a woman minding her own business should be condemned by all.

Agreed.

Race and creed are not relevant. You go ape on some innocent person and you should be condemned by all, no matter who you are and no matter who they are.