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Re: Questions for Sikhs

AvarAllahNoor said:



Also, Muslims are forbidden to cut the beard, we just go that extra step further and preserve all hair (Kesh)
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once a muslim keep his beard, they must maintain it....but they r allowed to trim it..etc....

btw....in sikhism...r u allowed to trim it now n then?
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

SilentObserver said:
Please do.

Thanks.
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Guru Nanak

Guru ji mastered Punjabi, Sanskrit and Persian at an early age and in childhood revolted against ritualism, caste, prejudices, hypocrisy and idolatry.

He regarded Hindus and Muslims as equals and referred to himself as neither Hindu nor Muslim but as a brother to all those who believed in God and truth.

He made four great journeys, travelling to all parts of India, and into Arabia and Persia; Tibet, China visiting Mecca and Baghdad. He spoke before Hindus, Jains, Buddhists, Parsees, and Muslims. He spoke in the temples and mosques, and at various pilgrimage sites. Wherever he went, Guru Nanak spoke out against empty religious rituals, pilgrimages, the caste system, the sacrifice of widows, of depending on books to learn the true religion, and of all the other tenets that were to define his teachings. Never did he ask his listeners to follow him. He asked the Muslims to be true Muslims and the Hindus to be true Hindus.


Guru Angad

Guru Angad He was born in 1504 .Guru Angad invented and introduced the Gurmukhi (written form of Punjabi) script and made it known to all Sikhs.

The scripture of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is written in Gurmukhi. This scripture is also the basis of Punjabi language. Guru Angad was a model of self-less service to his Sikhs and showed them the way to devotional prayers. It become the script of the masses very soon. He took great interest in the education of the children by opening many schools for their instruction and thus increased the number of literates.

For the youth he started the tradition of Mall Akhara, where physical as well as spiritual exercises were held. He collected the facts about Guru Nanak Sahib 's life from Bhai Bala ji and wrote the first biography of Guru Nanak Sahib. (Bhai Bale Wali Janamsakhi available now a days in not the same that Guru Angad Sahib had compiled.) He also wrote 63 Saloks (stanzas), these were included in Guru Granth Sahib. He popularized and expanded the institution of 'Guru ka Langar' started by Guru Nanak Sahib earlier .


Guru Amar Das

Guru Amar DasHe was born in 1479. Guru Amardas took up cudgels of spirituality to fight against caste restrictions, caste prejudices and the curse of untouchability.

He strengthened the tradition of the free kitchen, Guru Ka Langar (started by Guru Nanak), and made his disciples, whether rich or poor, whether high born or low born (according to the Hindu caste system), have their meals together sitting in one place.

He thus established social equality amongst the people. Guru Amardas introduced the Anand Karaj marriage ceremony for the Sikhs, replacing the Hindu form.

He also completely abolished amongst the Sikhs, the custom of Sati, in which a married woman was forced to burn herself and die with the funeral of her husband. The custom of Paradah, in which a woman covered her face with a veil, was also done away with.

Guru Ram Das

Guru Ram DasHe was born in 1534. Guru ji founded the city of Amritsar and started the construction of the famous Golden Temple at Amritsar, the holy city of the Sikhs.


The temple remains open on all sides and at all times to every one. This indicates that the Sikhs believe in One God who has no partiality for any particular place, direction or time.

The standard Sikh marriage ceremony known as the Anand Karaj is centered around the Lawan, a four stanza hymn composed by Guru Ram Das ji. The marriage couple circumscribe the Guru Granth Sahib ji as each stanza is read. The first round is the Divine consent for commencing the householders life through marriage. The second round states that the union of the couple has been brought about by God. In the third round the couple is described as the most fortunate as they have sung the praises of the Lord in the company of saints. In the fourth round the feeling of the couple that they have obtained their hearts desire and are being congratulated is described.


Guru Arjan Dev

Guru Arjan Dev He was born in 1563. He was the third son of Guru Ram Das ji. Guru Arjan was a saint and scholar of the highest quality and repute.

He compiled the Adi Granth, the scriptures of the Sikhs, and wrote the Sukhmani Sahib. To make it a universal teaching, Guru ji included in it hymns of Muslim saints as well those of low-caste pariah saints who were never permitted to enter various temples.

Guru Arjan Dev built Sri Darbar Sahib also known as Golden Temple in Amritsar.


Golden Temple foundations were laid down by a Muslim saint http://www.johnpalmerphotography.co.uk/JPEG Photo Images/India-Amritsar Golden Temple.jpg

Sri Darbar Sahib welcomes all without discrimination, which is symbolised by the four doors that are open in four directions. Guru ji became the first great martyr (Saheed) in Sikh history when Emperor Jahangir ordered execution.

Guru Har Gobind

Guru Hargobind He was born in 1595. He was the son of Guru Arjan Dev and was known as a "soldier saint," Guru Hargobind ji organised a small army, explaining that extreme non-violence and pacifism would only encourage evil and so the principles of Miri-Piri were established.

Guru ji taught that it was necessary to take up the sword in order to protect the weak and the oppressed. Guru ji was first among Gurus to take up arms to defend the faith. At that time it was only emperors who were allowed to sit on a raised platform, called a takhat or throne.

At the age of 13, Guru Hargobind erected Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, ten feet above the ground and adorned two swords, Miri and Piri, representing temporal and spiritual power.


Guru Har Rai

Guru Har Rai He was born in 1630, spent most of his life in devotional meditation and preaching the teachings of Guru Nanak.

Although, Guru Har Rai Ji was a man of peace, he never disbanded the armed Sikh Warriors (Saint Soldiers), who earlier were maintained by his grandfather, Guru Hargobind. He always boosted the military spirit of the Sikhs.

He also continued the grand task of nation building initiated by Guru Hargobind.

Guru Har Krishan

Guru Har Krishan He was born in 1656. Guru Har Krishan was the youngest of the Gurus. Installed as Guru at the age of five, Guru ji astonished the Brahmin Pundits with his knowledge and spiritual powers.

To the Sikhs he proved to be the symbols of service, purity and truth. The Guru gave his life while serving and healing the epidemic-stricken people in Delhi. The young Guru began to attend the sufferers irrespective of cast and creed. Particularly, the local Muslim population was much impressed with the purely humanitarian deeds of the Guru Sahib and nicknamed him Bala Pir (child prophet).

Even Aurangzeb did not try to disturb Guru Harkrishan Sahib.

Anyone who invokes Him with a pure heart has no difficulties whatsoever in their life.

Guru Tegh Bahadur

Guru Tegh BahadurHe was born in 1621 in Amritsar.

He established the town of Anandpur. The Guru laid down his life for the protection of Hindus, their Tilak (devotional mark painted on the forehead) and their sacred thread. He was a firm believer in the right of people to the freedom of worship.

It was for this cause that he faced martyrdom for the defence of the down-trodden Hindus. So pathetic was the torture of Guru Tegh Bahadur that his body had to be cremated clandestinely at Delhi while his head was taken four hundred kilometers away to Anandpur Sahib for cremation.


Guru Gobind Singh

Guru Gobind SinghHe was born in 1666 and became Guru after the martyrdom of his father Guru Tegh Bahadur.

He created the Khalsa (The Pure Ones) in 1699, changing the Sikhs into a saint-soldier order with special symbols and sacraments for protecting themselves. After the Guru had administered Amrit to his Five Beloved Ones, he stood up in supplication and with folded hands, begged them to baptize him in the same way as he had baptized them. He himself became their disciple (Wonderful is Guru Gobind Singh, himself the Master and himself the disciple). The Five Beloved Ones were astonished at such a proposal, and represented their own unworthiness, and the greatness of the Guru, whom they deemed God's representative upon earth.

He fought many wars against Aurangzeb's forces.

Thus the tree whose seed was planted by Guru Nanak, came to fruition when Guru Gobind Singh created the Khalsa, http://www.kpkhalsa.com/images/Khalsa1.jpg and on 3 October 1708, appointed Guru Granth Sahib as the Guru. He commanded: "Let all bow before my successor, Guru Granth. The Word is the Guru now."
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

SATalha said:
once a muslim keep his beard, they must maintain it....but they r allowed to trim it..etc....

btw....in sikhism...r u allowed to trim it now n then?
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No! Once you've taken the Amrit it is forbidden! A bit about the Amrit below

Khande di Pahul (Amrit ceremony) was initiated in the times of Guru Gobind Singh when Khalsa was inaugurated at Sri Anandpur Sahib on the day of Baisakhi in 1699. Guru Gobind Singh asked a gathering of Sikhs, who was prepared to die for God? At first, the people hesitated, and then one man stepped forward, and he was taken to a tent. After some time, Guru Gobind Singh came out of the tent, with blood dripping from his sword. He asked the same question again. After the next four volunteers were in the tent, he reappeared with the four, who were now all dressed like him. These five men came to be known as Panj Pyares or the Beloved Five. These five were initiated into the Khalsa by receiving Amrit. These five were Bhai Daya Singh, Bhai Mukham Singh, Bhai Sahib Singh, Bhai Dharam Singh and Bhai Himmat Singh. Sikh men were then given the name "Singh" meaning "lion" and the women received the last name "Kaur" meaning "princess"

Khande Di Pahul not only embodies the primary objects of Sikh faith and the promises connected therewith, but also is itself a promise to lead a pure and pious life to unite with Almighty Lord. It is about inward cleansing of the conscience and seeking unity with Supreme Lord through His Grace. The word Pahul is a derivative from the substantive, Pahu- which is an agent which brightens, accelerates or sharpens the potentialities of a given object.

Khalsa is an Arabian word meaning pure (Khalas)
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

AvarAllahNoor said:
Well yes. A Sikh is not permitted to eat meat or drink alcohol (Bet you're thinking not another group who can't drink lol)
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You learn something new everyday!!

I had heard that sikhs were allowed to drink alcohol but not to smoke tobacco.
They were allowed to eat meat, as long as it wasnt halal meat....

Think i will have to have words with my Sikh friend at work when i see him next week!!!
 
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netprince said:
You learn something new everyday!!

I had heard that sikhs were allowed to drink alcohol but not to smoke tobacco.
They were allowed to eat meat, as long as it wasnt halal meat....

Think i will have to have words with my Sikh friend at work when i see him next week!!!
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Does he have a haircut?

No meat is allowed although some argue it is. alcohol is FORBIDDEN!! He can't be practicing if he's drinking. No drugs either in case he says that's OK.

Give him a good thappar too :rollseyes
 
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You say you sikhs believe in the all the prophets of God, including Muhammad pbuh. How can you reject his religion then?:?
 
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Malaikah said:
You say you sikhs believe in the all the prophets of God, including Muhammad pbuh. How can you reject his religion then?:?
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I hope your intention in asking is to get an answer and accept it, and not to debate.
I only say because the wording seems mildly confrontational.

My apologies if I am wrong.

If your intentions are not strictly in the spirit of learning, then please start a new thread for the debate that will no doubt be started.

Again, my apologies if I am wrong.
 
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I put the ':?' hoping it would lighten the post a little... guess it didn't work. :hiding: I am definitely not trying to have a debate.
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

Malaikah said:
I put the ':?' hoping it would lighten the post a little... guess it didn't work. :hiding: I am definitely not trying to have a debate.
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Thank you. I really am wanting to learn about different religions, islam, sikhism, christianity, etc. And this thread has been very informative. The threads that debates start in always get closed. :cry:
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

AvarAllahNoor said:
Does he have a haircut?

No meat is allowed although some argue it is. alcohol is FORBIDDEN!! He can't be practicing if he's drinking. No drugs either in case he says that's OK.

Give him a good thappar too :rollseyes
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He is a very good practicing sikh from what i can tell, he has the full beard and hair (wears turban). He himself doesnt drink or smoke, but i just thought thats personal choice.

Dont know about the Thapper tho', his a good lad, might just be an error in my understanding and his explaining.
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

Malaikah said:
You say you sikhs believe in the all the prophets of God, including Muhammad pbuh. How can you reject his religion then?:?
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Personally, i dont find the question objectionable in any way. Seems like a perfectly reasonable question. The debating would/could begin if Avars answer isnt accepted as an answer, which i dont think will be the case. It is like my post earlier, i had a certain understanding about the sikh stance on alcohol and meat. I asked the question, Avar answered and i have accepted his answer. End of story.
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

Malaikah said:
You say you sikhs believe in the all the prophets of God, including Muhammad pbuh. How can you reject his religion then?:?
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lol that's like saying why do muslims reject previous other relgions (Judaism Christianity)

God send Prophets all over the world (mentioned in Quran) as and when he sees fit. Guru Nanak was sent according to Gods will.
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

SilentObserver said:
I hope your intention in asking is to get an answer and accept it, and not to debate.
I only say because the wording seems mildly confrontational.

My apologies if I am wrong.

If your intentions are not strictly in the spirit of learning, then please start a new thread for the debate that will no doubt be started.

Again, my apologies if I am wrong.
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It's ok, i like confrontation. I have nothing to hide. Sikhism is a great relgion and so much different to many others.

BTW - We have a 'Sikhsim' thread if anybody wants to use that to ask questions or debate!
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

AvarAllahNoor said:
lol that's like saying why do muslims reject previous other relgions (Judaism Christianity)

God send Prophets all over the world (mentioned in Quran) as and when he sees fit. Guru Nanak was sent according to Gods will.
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Are gurus viewed as God's prophets then?
Muhammed was a prophet of God ... just not the last, as Islam claims?

Thanks
 
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What does the word 'JAT' mean? I know it is a caste but what doe sit represent? is is it a part of sikhism?
 
Re: Questions for Sikhs

glo said:
Are gurus viewed as God's prophets then?
Muhammed was a prophet of God ... just not the last, as Islam claims?

Thanks
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Indeed they are.

Mohammed may have been the last one for Islam.
 

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