Local Councils in Britain to spy on Muslims

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i dnt understand wt u mean :-[

He mean's post 11. Saying that they are "not muslim"

Making Takfir is calling others desblievers.
It is not part of Islam for muslim to make such claim so freely and it is prohibited to a certain extent.
Check out other threads on takfeer (takfir), or ask in the basic section so you are more aware.

Don't worry sis, we understood what you was trying to say and the point you where trying to get across. :)
 
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Wrong. The BNP has recently been investigated for having huge amounts of explosives. Or are black and asian people not 'our people'?

If I was elected to become PM I would sort Islamist terrorists out. I would just stop all the stupid wars, quit the US alliance thing until they behave properly, punish bad people and governments regardless of wether they are western or eastern, and work to get rid of discrimination against all people and races, including Muslims. If Muslims were teated better, then they would not commit terrorist attacks. You cannot possibly expect the country to be safe from these fanatics until the situation is better for all Muslims.
Putting restrictive measures such as surveylance in place may decrease the number of successful attacks, but the number of attempted ones would probably soar.
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Muslims are treated better by the government than us non-muslims. The Christians get the thick of it. Our government bends over backwards for muslims. "This would be offensive to muslims, let's ban it. Oh and that too. Christmas decorations too."
When you say "punish bad people" would that include non-muslims that don't follow Islam? Would that include on how women dress themselves? Would you ban music, the St. George flag? You know what I mean. Anything that you would regard as "haram" would you ban non-muslims from it?
 
Muslims are treated better by the government than us non-muslims. The Christians get the thick of it. Our government bends over backwards for muslims. "This would be offensive to muslims, let's ban it. Oh and that too. Christmas decorations too."
When you say "punish bad people" would that include non-muslims that don't follow Islam? Would that include on how women dress themselves? Would you ban music, the St. George flag? You know what I mean. Anything that you would regard as "haram" would you ban non-muslims from it?
Yeah, were given 5 star treatment don't we, if we mention Palastine and the word Jihad togvether we have MI5 breathing down our necks, and as for your rant about banning stuff u do know it wasn't muslims who suggested that.
 
Yeah, were given 5 star treatment don't we, if we mention Palastine and the word Jihad togvether we have MI5 breathing down our necks, and as for your rant about banning stuff u do know it wasn't muslims who suggested that.

I wasn't saying it was muslims that were saying that although there have been muslims that have tried to sue because they offended them which is why some things are banned in some places. The fact is that the government is trying not to offend muslims but they couldn't give a rats ar.. if they offend Christians.
 
Muslims are treated better by the government than us non-muslims. The Christians get the thick of it. Our government bends over backwards for muslims. "This would be offensive to muslims, let's ban it. Oh and that too. Christmas decorations too."
When you say "punish bad people" would that include non-muslims that don't follow Islam? Would that include on how women dress themselves? Would you ban music, the St. George flag? You know what I mean. Anything that you would regard as "haram" would you ban non-muslims from it?

How are muslim banning all this thing when we have not the authority.
It's the current goverment you have problem with and so does many muslim.
 
I wasn't saying it was muslims that were saying that although there have been muslims that have tried to sue because they offended them which is why some things are banned in some places. The fact is that the government is trying not to offend muslims but they couldn't give a rats ar.. if they offend Christians.


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And thats our fault how, your problem is with the goverment's attitude towards Christmas not the muslims, we never put those perposals through it was the goverment.
 
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And thats our fault how, your problem is with the goverment's attitude towards Christmas not the muslims, we never put those perposals through it was the goverment.

We are talking about how the government is putting muslims as a priority? It's not just Christmas the government has fiddled with. I've heard the National flag is banned in Blackburn? "It could offend muslims."
 
We are talking about how the government is putting muslims as a priority? It's not just Christmas the government has fiddled with. I've heard the National flag is banned in Blackburn? "It could offend muslims."
But again u seem to be blamming this on us when we don't ask or this, go to the man who introduced the banning of the flag.
 
We are talking about how the government is putting muslims as a priority? It's not just Christmas the government has fiddled with. I've heard the National flag is banned in Blackburn? "It could offend muslims."

Are you sure this is what they sad, and this is what happened. Please verify it.

If that is the case, than just for be aware they are not doing it for muslims.
 
But again u seem to be blamming this on us when we don't ask or this, go to the man who introduced the banning of the flag.

Not at all. What this stemmed from was that someone said that the government treats muslims bad, but the government treats Christians and non muslims alot worst.
 
Are you sure this is what they sad, and this is what happened. Please verify it.

If that is the case, than just for be aware they are not doing it for muslims.

I cannot google it but it is what I learned from my uncle who lives in Blackburn.
 
Not at all. What this stemmed from was that someone said that the government treats muslims bad, but the government treats Christians and non muslims alot worst.

Naa, you gotta experience being a Muslim before you say that...:rollseyes

But on the subject of spies and all these things against Muslims, to quote a community leader off the bbc,

"It would be nice to wake up to find that all of a sudden everyone thinks my faith is banal, rather than something to panic about."

Source (at the bottom)
 
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You know, if you're a clever muslim, like, say me, you can so easily turn this "negative" into a positive. Look at it this way: the council wants to spy on muslims, so let us show them the true definition of Islam and muslims by following the Quran and sunnah.

Though, to be honest, only clever muslims would understand what I've just written.

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Muslims are treated better by the government than us non-muslims. The Christians get the thick of it. Our government bends over backwards for muslims. "This would be offensive to muslims, let's ban it. Oh and that too. Christmas decorations too."

The Christmas decorations are not offensive to Muslims. If I was PM I would allow them. It's not about discrimination against non-Muslims, it's about insanely over the op political correctness from people who don't want to be sued to pieces because they accidentally offended somebody.

As somebody else said, you have had no experience of being a Muslim, and therfore cannot possibly know what it is like. Muslims commonly get stopped and detained at airports for no reason other than that they are Muslims, who are 'possible terrorists' in the eyes of the current leaders. Some Muslims are forced to change their names in order to get jobs. I've been spat at and had abuse shouted at me from across the street. Does this stuff often happen to white Christians? No, of course not.

When you say "punish bad people" would that include non-muslims that don't follow Islam? Would that include on how women dress themselves? Would you ban music, the St. George flag? You know what I mean. Anything that you would regard as "haram" would you ban non-muslims from it?
No. When I said bad people, I meant people who commit crimes, but who are too powerful to be sorted out by police, such as leaders of nations. What I mean here is human rights abusers and opressors, such as Syria, Iran, Egypt, Lybia, USA, Israel, China, Russia etc. I don't like despots, whether they are 'Islamic' or not, whether they are Western or not. I also don't like neo-Nazis and racists, and if I was PM I would do everything possible to keep them from commiting their crimes.
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The Christmas decorations are not offensive to Muslims. If I was PM I would allow them. It's not about discrimination against non-Muslims, it's about insanely over the op political correctness from people who don't want to be sued to pieces because they accidentally offended somebody.

As somebody else said, you have had no experience of being a Muslim, and therfore cannot possibly know what it is like. Muslims commonly get stopped and detained at airports for no reason other than that they are Muslims, who are 'possible terrorists' in the eyes of the current leaders. Some Muslims are forced to change their names in order to get jobs. I've been spat at and had abuse shouted at me from across the street. Does this stuff often happen to white Christians? No, of course not.


No. When I said bad people, I meant people who commit crimes, but who are too powerful to be sorted out by police, such as leaders of nations. What I mean here is human rights abusers and opressors, such as Syria, Iran, Egypt, Lybia, USA, Israel, China, Russia etc. I don't like despots, whether they are 'Islamic' or not, whether they are Western or not. I also don't like neo-Nazis and racists, and if I was PM I would do everything possible to keep them from commiting their crimes.
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Good response. Fishman for PM anyone? :)

Aside, I don't know whether the above is partially answered but I want to know how muslims minds think. If you, being muslim, became Prime Minister would you scrap the national flag as, admit it, isn't to your liking? The same with music, it's "haram," ban booze, it's "haram?" Or would you be happy to live in a multicultural society where everyone can do as they please as long as it isn't a crime?
 

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