UK Faiths Unite in Gay Law Protest

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

^^ that is true BUT not all situations fit the same....i could go into but itll get too long....and off topic.

 

[mujahida3001]

The Qur'an states:

"And his people came rushing towards him, and they had been long in the habit of practising abominations. He said: "O my people! Here are my daughters: they ore purer for you (if you marry)! Now fear Allah, and cover me not with shame about my guests! Is there not among you a right-handed man?"

Man's gratification of his sexual appetite with another man has a long history of its own. The Qur'an bears testimony t the fact that the people of the prophet Lut (Alayhis salaam), the nephew of Ibriham (Alayhis salaam), sent as a warning to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, were those who initiated this heinous practice. Before them it was unknown. In this connection the Qur'an mentions:

"We also sent Lut. He said to his people, 'Do you commit indecency such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For you practise your lusts on men in preference to women; you are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."

Finally, the wrath of Almighty descended upon them, their cities were turned upside down and showers of stone rained on them. Regarding this the Qur'aan mentions:

"Then when Our decree came to pass. We turned the cities upside down, and We rained thereon stones of baked clay, piled up."

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Christianity has its basis on the four gospels of Jesus teachings - not once in those four books does Jesus say anything about homosexuality being wrong or against nature.

Anyone going to the protest today?

 

[FBI]

Christianity has its basis on the four gospels of Jesus teachings - not once in those four books does Jesus say anything about homosexuality being wrong or against nature.

Anyone going to the protest today?

Just of intrest what does your religion say about homo's

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Just of intrest what does your religion say about homo's

Well, you don't get condemed to the pits of hell and all that malarky. - It's the actions towards your fellow human being and the repetition of the name of God that counts in Sikhism, not the sexuality, gender or colour.

Although it's not frowned upon, neither is it condoned.

 

[strider]

Well so long as you'll agree that one doesnt have to rent rooms to Muslims (because they don't want to support the muslim lifestyle), or print Muslim magazines, I'll agree that one doesn't have to rent rooms to homosexuals (because they don't want to support the homosexual lifestyle) or print homosexual magazines. The coin flips both ways.

Sure, why not. Sounds fair enough to me.

 

[limitless]

I am not sure of you guys aware of this, but in Canada a couple lesbians just got a child and received legal status of the child. The boy has three legal parents, a father and two mothers (lesbians of course). The appeal rejected that, but the higher court overruled their decesion because it does not fall under their jurisdiction. Many people in Canada protested against it, but the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom guarantees their rights and not to deprive of it. This is also, in Human Rights Act for provincial governments. Children here are going to end up being homosexual faster than anywhere else in the world. Also, a pakistani refugee, Shaifq Mawtij is a homosexual who finds 519 support group for homosexual, bisexual, and transgendered oriented home. He is proud to be gay (a Muslim man).

 

[Akil]

Firstly, if you believe homosexuality doesn’t have a long history in Arabic and Muslim countries from the middle ages to the present than you are fooling yourself.

Secondly, the bottom line is that you cannot discriminate against anyone on the basis of morals in a democracy. Not for race or ethnic origins, not for religion and not for sexual orientation.

 

[wilberhum]

Firstly, if you believe homosexuality doesn’t have a long history in Arabic and Muslim countries from the middle ages to the present than you are fooling yourself.

Secondly, the bottom line is that you cannot discriminate against anyone on the basis of morals in a democracy. Not for race or ethnic origins, not for religion and not for sexual orientation.

It seams that only those without strong religious ties don't find it necessary to hate in the name of god.

 

[Akil]

Religion, Islam in particular is good and positive, until it is usurped by dictators, tyrants, so called teachers and so called scholars who utilize Islam and other religions as a means of control over the masses.

Divide and dominate, give the masses a focal point for their hate, and they will be too busy hating to realize that they are being controlled.

 

[Malaikah]

^Something I mentioned in another thread:

Homosexuality is a crime in Islam, just like tradition crimes are a crime because they effect other people, so to does homosexuality (by spreading corruption and immorality in the land/society)... and again before you say that it is none of our business what people do in their own privacy, that is true, it is between them and God... but when they make it public, it isn't between them and God anymore, because the public have become aware of it and are influenced by it.

Now I understand that we do not live under Islamic rule and that we have to follow the law of the country we live in. Fair enough, but there isn't a law, as far as I know, that says we have to have to agree with any certain laws or like them. And as Muslims we will never agree with or like the concept of people practicing homosexuality.

 

[Muezzin]

What exactly do the new laws require? If it's allowing homosexuals to have hotel rooms, or to publish homosexual literature, I really don't see a problem with that in a secular country. Business is business.

On the other hand, if, as is claimed by one person in the article, it requires for example faith schools to actively seek out and employ homosexuals, this is problematic as it is positive discrimination.

 

[Akil]

And as Muslims we will never agree with or like the concept of people practicing homosexuality.

And no democracy should ever ask you to compromise your morals. But I have seen genuine hatred toward those who practice a homosexual lifestyle. I have read nothing about nabi Mohammad (peace and blessings be upon him) in various biographies or in hadith that would make me believe that he would condone hate for any reason. I may be wrong and please do correct me if I am, but in what I read he refused to hate even those who persecuted him, even those who were his enemy in battle.

In my opinion you should treat homosexuals the same way you treat anyone who is a sinner according to Islam. Also remember that their religion is not your religion, your religion is not their religion, your religion will probably not become their religion and their religion will not become your religion . . . . or something like that

Hate is never good, hate is never right, hate is never positive and never has a positive outcome. That is in fact why I am here.

On the other hand, if, as is claimed by one person in the article, it requires for example faith schools to actively seek out and employ homosexuals, this is problematic as it is positive discrimination.

Racial quotas and similar things are incompatible with democracy and I would agree with you that if this is the case, this is wrong.