Israel planning to use nuclear weapons against Iran.

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I dont think US would have public support to go to war with Iran if it happens to be Israel who striked first. The American people are already unhappy with the current Afghan and Iraq wars, and then the new conflict in Somalia.

I hope no one strikes, because if one does, the other replies, it may bring in neighbouring nations.
The most adversely affected would be civilians.
 
If Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map then I support Israel with their plans. Common sense. If anyone threatened to wipe Britain off the map then there would be immediate plans for military action. With Iran I don't trust them with nukes.
 
I think that Iran should take the proactive measures should Israel do try it.

Iran should atack Israel in defence.
Iran should detonate and bomb any nuclear arsenal that is in Israel.


Quite apart from the fact the Iranians are extremely unlikely to know where the Israeli 'nuclear arsenal' is the chances of such 'proactive measures' being successful are remote, to say the least. Ahmednejad isn't stupid enough to try.
 
If Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map then I support Israel with their plans. Common sense. If anyone threatened to wipe Britain off the map then there would be immediate plans for military action. With Iran I don't trust them with nukes.

Salaam,

exactly,as you agreed it is self defence,now Israel threathen the civillian of Iran with nuclear bombs....so it is right for Iran to attack a provocative regime first.
And for me i dont trust the US or any western goverment with nukes..
 
Quite apart from the fact the Iranians are extremely unlikely to know where the Israeli 'nuclear arsenal' is the chances of such 'proactive measures' being successful are remote, to say the least. Ahmednejad isn't stupid enough to try.


Salaam,

Actually the location of where the bombs are is not know but the reactors are very well known in the world media.

So for Iran even if they do not know the location of the wmd,they can easily target and destroy the location where the uranium is enriched.

One bomb only has limited uranium but a palces which is used to enrich uranium will have a heavy weight and one bomb into that area will have a much more devastating affect..i think...
 
So for Iran even if they do not know the location of the wmd,they can easily target and destroy the location where the uranium is enriched.

'Easily'? Such a task is never easy even for a far stronger attacking force against a far weaker defending one. I don't know if the Iranians have a significant cruise missile capability (or indeed a cruise missile capability at all); that might do the trick - but the Iranian airforce is third rate compared with the Israelis, and even if a few planes get past defending fighters there's the ground based missiles to worry about.

All that aside, what would be the result of such a strike? The Israelis would still have the bombs. After such an attack they wouldn't have any trouble getting their hands on US supplied enriched uranium, either. The only effective difference is that they would both be mad enough, and have an excuse, to use them. First target, the Iranian nuclear facilities. Second target? Who knows.


as you agreed it is self defence,now Israel threathen the civillian of Iran with nuclear bombs....so it is right for Iran to attack a provocative regime first

Following that logic I assume you would have no objections to an Israeli 'proactive' strike on Iranian nuclear facilities for exactly the same reasons? Or don't you view Ahmenajeds' comments regarding the destruction of the State of Israel as 'provocative'? The trouble with following such nonsensical reasoning is that sooner or later an awful lot of people end up dead.

The Israelis haven't actually 'threatened' anything, BTW. This was an unsourced newspaper not an IDF press release. The target would be the Iranian nuclear facilities (with bombs exploding underground) not 'civilians', although by their very nature nukes aren't that selective.
 
'Easily'? Such a task is never easy even for a far stronger attacking force against a far weaker defending one. I don't know if the Iranians have a significant cruise missile capability (or indeed a cruise missile capability at all); that might do the trick - but the Iranian airforce is third rate compared with the Israelis, and even if a few planes get past defending fighters there's the ground based missiles to worry about.

All that aside, what would be the result of such a strike? The Israelis would still have the bombs. After such an attack they wouldn't have any trouble getting their hands on US supplied enriched uranium, either. The only effective difference is that they would both be mad enough, and have an excuse, to use them. First target, the Iranian nuclear facilities. Second target? Who knows.




Following that logic I assume you would have no objections to an Israeli 'proactive' strike on Iranian nuclear facilities for exactly the same reasons? Or don't you view Ahmenajeds' comments regarding the destruction of the State of Israel as 'provocative'? The trouble with following such nonsensical reasoning is that sooner or later an awful lot of people end up dead.

The Israelis haven't actually 'threatened' anything, BTW. This was an unsourced newspaper not an IDF press release. The target would be the Iranian nuclear facilities (with bombs exploding underground) not 'civilians', although by their very nature nukes aren't that selective.


Salaam,

well as they say one strike is all you need.

that why nuclear weapon is so feared,and is used as ad etterent.

So like i say before,a weapon is of no use to anyone till it has detonated,and the important thing is that you need to ensure the location it is detonated.

As you have pointed outmwhat would such a strike do?
well let see,what would a Isrealis strike do on Iran and the world?

Should Iran keep quite? or should it attack back?

And i would say the purpose of attacking first on Israel is to teach them that their weapons do as much damage to themselves as it does to others.

Would you send a bomb knowing the affects...that is why coutnries that have gone thru war would never want to relive it,,but human memeory fades and men seek wealth and greed or are impassioned by their own needs.


And if Iran attack it would be with weapon ,conventional weapon,Iran has abided by the laws even wehn the US supplied WMD to Saddam in the Iran/Iraq war.

Also we need to reflect on the 1 million cluster bombs dropped by the ISrealis and supplied by the US unto lebanon.
Such power trully are depraved to use banned weapon ont he populace.

Adn Israel have siad nuclear weapon is an option,as did the US,while Ahmednijad has said that Isral is illegal and what not i do not think i have read where he will attack using bombs and what not.

As of now,the aggresors are clear,the US/Israel,if Iran takes a stand and detonate it bombs,especially it news dispersion bomb on Israel and on US forces in Iraq/Iran...i would say it is justified.

I would say,that in man history,peace only comes when both sides have lost much,perhaps it is time to teach the aggresors of the cost of war.
 
Salaam,

exactly,as you agreed it is self defence,now Israel threathen the civillian of Iran with nuclear bombs....so it is right for Iran to attack a provocative regime first.
And for me i dont trust the US or any western goverment with nukes..

It is Israel that is in the self defence mode. Iran warned that Israel must be wiped off the face of the map. With Iran building nukes that could come true without action from Israel. Now that is a clear hint of things to come. Israel have every right to make plans to protect their country.
 
It is Israel that is in the self defence mode. Iran warned that Israel must be wiped off the face of the map. With Iran building nukes that could come true without action from Israel. Now that is a clear hint of things to come. Israel have every right to make plans to protect their country.


Salaam,

The problem is that you view thing from Isrelais perception.

May i ask,when the Isrealis say that the Iranians are planning a nucler bomb,you belif...

when the iranian say they are not,you disbelief..

So may i ask,are you then basing your judgement based on one side?

Just like Israel/US said Iraq has WMD,,do you still beleive it at the cost of 500 000 Iraqis?
that the problem with suspision and disturst.

We already know that Isreal fear anyone whom is powerful enough to chage the powerbalnce in the middle east,but so far has israel been a force of good for the middle east.

you can ask the Palestinian about that..


And i agree,that every coutnry has the right to defence but to attack based on presumtions.
If that were the case then Iran has every right to attack Israel and to arm Hamas as well as Shiites in Iraq.

We already know the US plan for regime chage in the middle east,perhaps it is time to bring the pain in the middle east towards the west..so that people can learn what is the "birthpang" of democracy can feel like..
 
Salaam,

The problem is that you view thing from Isrelais perception.

May i ask,when the Isrealis say that the Iranians are planning a nucler bomb,you belif...

when the iranian say they are not,you disbelief..

So may i ask,are you then basing your judgement based on one side?

Just like Israel/US said Iraq has WMD,,do you still beleive it at the cost of 500 000 Iraqis?
that the problem with suspision and disturst.

We already know that Isreal fear anyone whom is powerful enough to chage the powerbalnce in the middle east,but so far has israel been a force of good for the middle east.

you can ask the Palestinian about that..


And i agree,that every coutnry has the right to defence but to attack based on presumtions.
If that were the case then Iran has every right to attack Israel and to arm Hamas as well as Shiites in Iraq.

We already know the US plan for regime chage in the middle east,perhaps it is time to bring the pain in the middle east towards the west..so that people can learn what is the "birthpang" of democracy can feel like..


I view things from Israeli perspective? It wasn't the Israelis that told me the Iranian PM warned that Israel must be wiped off the map. It was the Iranian PM himself. It cannot be ignored. Again it wasn't the Israelis that told me the Iranians are developing nukes.
 
true and it wasn't the Iranian President either.I think it was foolish of Ahmadinejad to say such words at such a critical time.luckily for the Iranians the Israel-Lebanon war last year distracted Israel somewhat.

Iran got hundreds of nuclear facilities and there still isn't evidence that they have made bombs.Israel has planned to target some ,which some defence analysts said may not destroy the entire nuclear programme.
 
Salaam,

I think that Iran should take the proactive measures should Israel do try it.

Iran should atack Israel in defence.
Iran should detonate and bomb any nuclear arsenal that is in Israel.

If you have a formidable weapon,it does not mena you are safe,it just mena you will have to guard and defend that weapon from being blown up in your face.

So Iran should bomb the nuclear warhead in Israel.

Gee I wonder why the world is constantely at war. May be it is because so many think it is the only solution.
 
Salaam,

The problem is that you view thing from Isrelais perception.
The problem is that you view things from the anti-Israel perception.
And rufuse to see that there are always two sides of a problem and almost never is either side is either entirely right or entirely wrong.
 
well let see,what would a Isrealis strike do on Iran and the world?

Should Iran keep quite? or should it attack back?

And i would say the purpose of attacking first on Israel is to teach them that their weapons do as much damage to themselves as it does to others.

You are contradicting yourself; Iran could not both 'attack back' and 'attack first'. As I said, the Israelis haven't actually threatened anything, let alone done anything in this context.

The Iranians are realists, too; it's not as if Israel hasn't been attacked before. The only thing it taught anybody was that "attacking Israel is bad for your armed forces' health".

And if Iran attack it would be with weapon ,conventional weapon,Iran has abided by the laws even wehn the US supplied WMD to Saddam in the Iran/Iraq war.

The US didn't supply WMD to Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war. Some US companies provided 'precursor' chemicals and potentially dual-purpose goods. So did the French, Germans, Chinese and lots of other people.

Such power trully are depraved to use banned weapon ont he populace.

They are not 'banned' weapons, even if some people (including me) would like them to be.

Adn Israel have siad nuclear weapon is an option,as did the US

Please provide a source showing that either government said that.

As of now,the aggresors are clear,the US/Israel,if Iran takes a stand and detonate it bombs,especially it news dispersion bomb on Israel and on US forces in Iraq/Iran...i would say it is justified.

Neither the US or Israel has taken any military action against Iran at all.. so how are the aggressors 'clear'? Quite apart from which, it's irrelevant from the Iranian perspective whether that action would be 'justified' or not, it would be totally disastrous for them. The idiocy of launching an unprovoked attack on US troops should be evident. As to Israel, you vastly over-rate the Iranian military capability. Unlike those who have attacked Israel in the past (who still failed misreably) Iran doesn't share a border with Israel, and indeed is some considerable distance from it. The planes would be detected and shot down long before they dropped their bombs. The only consequences for Iran would be humiliation, and the inevitable US or Israeli response.

I would say,that in man history,peace only comes when both sides have lost much,perhaps it is time to teach the aggresors of the cost of war.

Peace is best when neither side loses anything at all. As, in the scenario you propose,the Iranians would be the aggressors (at least as far as the Israelis and American's are concerned) it is Iran and the Iranian people that would pay that price.
 
Israel supposedly has several hundred nuclear weapons stockpiled. They are locked and loaded to take the whole Middle East with them should they fall. Still think its worth destroying Israel Ahmadinejad?
Is it worth the lives of 400-500 million people and you entire country?
 
If Iran doesn't have a nuclear arms program, it better get one fast. It may already be too late for them. Nukes are the only proven deterrent against US agression.
 
I view things from Israeli perspective? It wasn't the Israelis that told me the Iranian PM warned that Israel must be wiped off the map. It was the Iranian PM himself. It cannot be ignored. Again it wasn't the Israelis that told me the Iranians are developing nukes.

Salaam,

Yes you do view thing from the ISrealis perspective.

Do you believe that Iran is trying to make a nuclear weapons?

Do you beleive that Iran will make use of the nuclear weapon onto its enemies?

If you do then you alrady show distrust towards the Iranina goverment.

And the Ahmednijad has called for Israel to be destroyed,not the jews to be killed..

Whil the US and Isrelais have said that using nuclear weapons is on the table,a nuclear weapon that will kill and maim generation thruout the middle east.

So tell me,,,which is better?
 

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