Dispatches: Undercover Mosque

its been taken out of context, blah blah blah.... thats all this guy knows.
well what i seen last nite didnt show me a religion of peace. the justification dont seem rite. trying to change what hes said. if everything he;s said is being taken out of context, i sure hope when they preaching these messeges in the mosques, they are saying them in the correct contexts!
 
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its been taken out of context, blah blah blah.... thats all this guy knows.
well what i seen last nite didnt show me a religion of peace. the justification dont seem rite. trying to change what hes said. if everything he;s said is being taken out of context, i sure hope when they preaching these messeges in the mosques, they are saying them in the correct contexts!
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Please reconsider before you keep opening you mouth with such rudeness. They showed you what they wanted you to see. #
We have discussed it before in the previouse post.
We are not here to force you, to what you do not wan't to believe, and that is you problem not us.
 
i have not said muslims are trying to convert, i have said the material in the video. whether they have showed us selected parts does not make a difference, the fact is, the stuff has still been said. like i said, i hope the context has been described when saying this to the little kids in the mosque!
 
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i have not said muslims are trying to convert, i have said the material in the video. whether they have showed us selected parts does not make a difference, the fact is, the stuff has still been said. like i said, i hope the context has been described when saying this to the little kids in the mosque!
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What do you wan't to discuss about Islam and and about those quote.
You can discuss it here, and we can clear it up.

First you can watch the Video brother FBI has provided aswell as above.
 
Another attempt by the kuffar to take the views of a few imams and represent them to the narrow minded populous as a representation of all muslims. These sort of programs are designed to put a lid on and justify to a frightened and confused western society the atrocities caused by the western governments, towards the muslims.
I wonder how much they paid the undercover guy wearing the camera. Hidden cameras to people automatically indicate something not good, to add to the element of demonisation.
I watched this useless documentary which was a one sided and fully biased attempt by the zionist media to further inject poisoning against muslims.
 
I watched this yesterday, they edited it in a very sly way, and yes it is a fact most of the stuff was taken out of context for example it is the muslim belief that there will be a war between Jesus (pbuh) and the Anti Christ and most of the jews will follow the false Messiah, yet they show a small clip of what the talker says about this war to make out that he is talking about going out on the street and killing jews on this "jihad". This was the case with most of what was said, I expected to see some firm evidence but it was a very poor documentry, usually Channel 4 is of a higher quality. To people who are ignorant of the facts and who dont know what was being talked about in certain talks it will come across as "extremism" and "they want to take over". It also contained attacks on core muslim beliefs. Just more propaganda and brainwashing.
 
I find this an amazing thing.

The reason is that alot of non Muslims and Muslims do not understand the terminology Muslims use, thus when the Muslims are speaking in such ways it seems as if it might be a bad thing, whilst in reality the whole 'then we establish jihad' is not what some would think it is.

It is interesting the way they spoke about Bilal Philips and pre-pubescent girls, when that didnt even seem to be mentioned.

Anyhow, Muslims, believe me, whom Allah guides none can misguide, thats the only statement that brings me a smile on my face right now.

EDIT: But I do hope this will encourage some Muslim speakers not to make jokes that are silly like making oink oink noises and all that. Thats sad.
 
I don't think a majority of muslims or mosques preach in this way. I have muslims friends, neve have i heard them talk in this manner. Surely if they were taught this, it would eventually make it's way into the open!
 
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I just watched this on youtube. SubhanAllah it is shocking and very sad the way they made respectable scholars seem extreme and crazy imsad

la hawla wa la quwatta illah billah :cry:

They take snippets of all different lectures to make it seem bad. I know one of them by Sheikh Feiz, Signs of the hour.. he was talking about the dajjal and how it will say kaffir across his forehead and they made it seem like he was talking about the christians/jews etc! SubhanAllah :cry:
 
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Whats the name of the austrialian shiek, not shiek Khalid Yaseen the other one, the one who was talking about Jihad in the austrialian accent?
 
They attacked a principle of Islaam. Jihaad. Not only the non-muslims attack this but some muslims alike. Can anyone tell me that what Sheikh Feiz said about Jihaad and putting the love of Jihaad into the heart of the young is wrong? Can anyone say it is against Islaam? Can anyone say it is deviant? So why let them attack what we muslims hold dear. Why do not other recognised muslim scholars or personalities who may not agree with all that was said, come out and defend that particular point. Seeing this point was attacked, why did not the Sufi Council Of Britain or Sheikh Hakim Murad, or the other Dr who had his face blurred (from Islam Channel) or Mr Nazir come out and defend Sheikh Feiz. Seeing that Sheekh Feiz was unable to defend him self or comment on the programme, why did any other muslim on there not defend him?

Is that what it has come to! Have we left it to Channle 4 to spread Islaam. Are we not suppose to be the carriers of the message. It would be great if the muslim organisations that come out once in a blue moon such as MPAC, MCB and SCB to come out and counter these arguments and controversy. Why not use al the media resources that that muslim community has here such as Islam Channel, MCB, Muslim Weekly and all the small media outlets and channels and put a programme or an insight into each and every point that was brought up.

Why not have a programme talking about Jihaad. Its root in Islam, historical facts and its place in todays climate. Why not have a programme on Islam and its view on homosexuality. Islam and its existance with other religions. Why leave it to undercover reports, to find and spread Islaam. Why not spread the message ourself, and spread it in its entirety rather than what we think would sound good and go down with society. We need to spread the message rather than leaving it to the predators of the media world, who in most cases have their own agenda and will only portray Islaam how they want. Why allow the non-muslims to hear our deen in a distorted and cherry-picked way, when we have a very good media Channel (Islaam Channel) and some influential muslims in the UK.

With all these organisations and muslim peers, is this the best we can do. Can we not put together a counter measure and ourside of the story and take it to Channel 4. Lets see if they would put it on air. Lets see if they would allow for Islaam to be portrayed in its true sense. Lets see how much room they have for eqaulity and integration.

May Allah protect and guide all those who have been misrepresnted due to this programme. And may Allah make this a lesson for us to learn from. Learn to unite rather than cause disunity, by not defending the honour of our brothers when they are ridiculed on national TV.
 
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I never watched the programme, but I saw the advert. I thought it was funny how they qouted Sheikh Khalid Yasin. I have the lecture they qouted him from, and it was completely taken out of context. The programme just sounds like rubbish. And anyone who believes what was stated in their needs to discover the art of research.
 
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Yasir Qadhi has given a response to this programme, on Islam Channel. I have the Video on my PC, if anyone wants to watch it let me, know, and I'll upload it insha'Allah.
 
when they quoted Sheikh Khalid Yasin out of context i was shocked he gives out lots of good letures, this what really gets me mad i watched the first 15 minutes of it on the internet and i couldnt watch anymore lies,im still fumin with the way they are trying to portray islam
 

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