Schools 'must teach Britishness'

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IbnAbdulHakim said:
why do we have to "Be British", why cant we "Be who we are" and still live with them? Do they hate us if we're not british or something ??
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i get what youre trying to say but take this as an example

im indian by culture. my link with india is my ancestry. although ive never been to the country nor intend to, i have within me indian culture.
what is wrong then with knowing the culture of the country you are living in, the country you are a citizen of where it does not conflict with deen?

pasrt of british culture can be something as harmless as fish and chips...
 
get what youre trying to say but take this as an example

im indian by culture. my link with india is my ancestry. although ive never been to the country nor intend to, i have within me indian culture.
what is wrong then with knowing the culture of the country you are living in, the country you are a citizen of where it does not conflict with deen?

pasrt of british culture can be something as harmless as fish and chips..
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Do you the what the british did in india? they didvided it.. i cant think of anything good from this country..I
 
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Instead of Teaching "Britishness" the Goverment should be teaching moral's in school then this country would be in a better state.
 
FBI said:
Wll I've lived here all my life but I woudln't call my self british I don't see the point I'm me, this country doesn't effect who I am in anyway other then fitnah.
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are you trying to say you have not benifited in any way whatsoever by living in this country?


Do you the what the british did in india? they didvided it.. i cant think of anything good from this country..I
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not anything at all???
 
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are you trying to say you have not benifited in any way whatsoever by living in this country
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I've earn't my benifts through the mercy of allah, and thats besides the point, the question remains what's "Britishness" I don't see how the goverment can teach it if no one knows what it is?
 
amani said:
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i get what youre trying to say but take this as an example

im indian by culture. my link with india is my ancestry. although ive never been to the country nor intend to, i have within me indian culture.
what is wrong then with knowing the culture of the country you are living in, the country you are a citizen of where it does not conflict with deen?

pasrt of british culture can be something as harmless as fish and chips...
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i guess, as long as it doesnt take up too much of your life. If they make you spend a whole year on something like "learning how to be british" i would DEFINITLY be against that...
 
Keltoi said:
Nothing to be proud of in British history? Fairly absurd statement. I'm not even British and I can think of a fairly long list.
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well i am and i cannot, so please go ahead. if i am wrong i will admit it, i am not stubborn where proved wrong.
 
khalil27 said:
I cant think of anything good... please list them own.. i would really like to know

They should teach about the islamic history in these schools, not once when i was in school did they teach about the islamic history.. i wouldnt expect them..too.. its always about ww1, ww2, viking, romans.. nothing else.. Indians..
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according to the west history lessons take an enforced break from about 600 ce till 1066 ce and deny anything of any significance happens inbetween...

Abu Abdullah
 
no one here can even quantify what britishness is...

when they can do so then lets have this discussion again.
 
khalil27 said:
you should know about your country and where you came from, if you knew what they did in india you would'nt like country so much as you do know..

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i know england as a country isnt innocent in its interference with other places however there ARE good points or points that dont do no harm
dont just point out and dwell on the bad.
you as a person living in britain cannot think of 1 benifit of you living here??? or one thing good?

britishness could be something like the weather being discussed towards the beginning of every conversation.
or how we always find something to complain about weather related.
 
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Muezzin said:
Nice idea, but if they keep these lessons as separate 'citizenship' sessions, I bet a whole lot of students will skive or regard it as a 'doss lesson' and not take it seriously. At least, that's my recollection of pupils' reactions to PHSE lessons in secondary school.
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They have citizenship lessons in our school, the year 11 students think of it as an easy qualification to earn so they don't really mind it. I think it's a GNVQ?
 
Far7an said:
They have citizenship lessons in our school, the year 11 students think of it as an easy qualification to earn so they don't really mind it. I think it's a GNVQ?
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Yeah they've finally introduced it into our school, as it's the law, but true enough it's just another simple GCSE. alhamdulillah.

ma'salaam
 
Far7an said:
They have citizenship lessons in our school, the year 11 students think of it as an easy qualification to earn so they don't really mind it. I think it's a GNVQ?
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i find it strange that muslims also go along to such lessons, yes it is good to know how people think but surely some of them are secular minded and being influenced by this stuff.

muslims need to realise that the kuffar are frightened of us and our strength of faith, these lessons and talking of lack of integration is meant for us, it is us they are trying to change and we should not make it easy for them by sending our youth along to political and cultural indoctrination classes.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
 
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Wa alaikum asalaam

Dawud_uk said:
i find it strange that muslims also go along to such lessons, yes it is good to know how people think but surely some of them are secular minded and being influenced by this stuff.

muslims need to realise that the kuffar are frightened of us and our strength of faith, these lessons and talking of lack of integration is meant for us, it is us they are trying to change and we should not make it easy for them by sending our youth along to political and cultural indoctrination classes.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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It's compulsory bro, every school has to teach it.

Citizenship became compulsory in England's secondary schools in 2002.
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When we were in school it was called Life Skills. Something like that, it was pretty lame and we got no qualification for it just a Gold, Silver or Bronze certificate.
 
i find it strange that muslims also go along to such lessons, yes it is good to know how people think but surely some of them are secular minded and being influenced by this stuff.
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Not really, we're doing 'How to take care of your money' and 'The Importance of rules' at the moment. I don't find anything wrong with any of it so far.
 

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