I am sick of my people

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So one of you is saying that Israel belongs to christians and the other saying jews. Jerusalem also has Mosque Al-aqsa, its a very important mosque to us, and if anyone was able to then could do a pilgrimage to it. Its impossible under Israeli rule for foreign muslims to do pilgrimage in Jerusalem.

I am afraid your prophecy of messiah doesnt really sound convincing, because jews need their temple before hand for the messiah, and whats this about peace, are you expecting a politician to bring peace to the world?
Also can you show references to zionism, even if your not zionist because Israel is based on the idea. I mean references from the torah or talmud.

And what does the bible say about the importance of Israel and, Jesus PBUH coming again. Could you also elaborate on the Anti-Christ guy?
 
What ever the issues you maybe talking about they will be resolved if the right Sunni leaders are put in place. If people like Khalid Yasseen are not given a chance to guvern their own people and say what is halal and what is haram, then the muslims will not be guided. We need these influential people alive and not assacinated. Trust me i believe that three religions can work out a power sharring agreement. All we want is that the leaders to be chosen by us. Hamas was voted in by a huge majority and they are descredited in the international level. The fatah people are the old supporters of Yassah Arafat and they are a dying number. Hamas are the popular group amongst the young Muslims and they will take over soon. But obviously they will be discredited and fought against.
 
because jews need their temple before hand for the messiah,
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nah dude, he said this like a billion times. there messiah is gonna build that Temple so they cant build it wit out him.
 
IzakHalevas said:
When the Moshiach comes Muslims will know the truth so your mosque will be of no care in the world to you all.

The Moshiach can come at anytime. But to be Moshiach there are many requirements. One is to birng world peace. No one has done that yet, therefore, we still wait.
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Wow. I always thought that when the Moshiach comes, ALL will be humbled because this one will hold up a mirror so everyone can see themselves for who they really are and what they've become. I did not think the Moshiach would be someone who agrees with everything. More that this one would disagree with what has taken place.

But in my little corner of the world, there is no such thing as innocence. If people don't like Israel, it's because they feel threatened. If people don't like Muslims, it's because they feel threatened. I don't fully understand it. Hell would have to deep freeze before I ever felt threatened by a mortal human being. But these issues that divide people and turn them against each-other are important to me because... they destroy God's will.

I shouldn't have to remind you that you're all the descendants of Abraham. You were meant to teach the world by embracing it. Now I hear you only care for yourselves. Whose curtains are a better color and material. Whose Temple is more fitting. Whose clothing style is more appropriate. You're all so busy arguing between yourselves you don't even understand how much impact you all have on this Earth.

At present, nearly every country in the world has been dragged into your conflict. That's how much influence you have! You think about it. When you hear me say things like "Giving mankind the power of creation was like giving a ten year old boy the keys to a Pantera" - there was a reason for why I believe that! But you're all so pre-occupied with yourselves and these disputes you haven't paid attention to how much impact it all has... and just look at this mess!? This is one hell of a heavenly fued for a God who has no sons... pft.

You were born spirit... before you were born flesh. Remember?

Ninth Scribe
 
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Dawud_uk said:
it is not upto the palestinian people to negotiate away parts of the muslim ummah, this is not their right and as such no such agreement over jeruselum or any other part of that land would need to be recognised by a future islamic state.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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No, Palestine does not have the right - but a Caliph could make such a concession on behalf of his kingdom, right?

Ninth Scribe
 
a good post by abdmez. it sucks how crazy people who want death and war with the jews have there way currently. if israel pulls back to pre-1967 i compelty recongnize them. i will even say all muslims must pledge to let them pray at bthere holy sites in east jerusalem.
 
Dawud_uk said:
it is not upto the palestinian people to negotiate away parts of the muslim ummah, this is not their right and as such no such agreement over jeruselum or any other part of that land would need to be recognised by a future islamic state.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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Palestinians are a tool to Islamic cause?
 
eagleye said:
Palestinians are a tool to Islamic cause?
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Of course. God forbid we actually cared about them isntead of sending them guns that they now use to kill themselves! Abdmez seems to be right about how we honestly only care about the land, not them. :cry:
 
arabiyyah said:
Of course. God forbid we actually cared about them isntead of sending them guns that they now use to kill themselves! Abdmez seems to be right about how we honestly only care about the land, not them. :cry:
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I had the impression it is Palestinian/Israeli conflict. it is even deeper than it appears to be.
 
I thought one of Jewish fundemental beliefs is that once the Moshiach comes than the creation of Isreal is allowed? any answers
 
The time we are living is " ARE YOU WITH US OR WITHOUT US" has been prevailed.So no doubt we are in end times.you can see the scenario of the world.wars,corruption,high rates of murders,usolved diseases,chidren are dying of common cold which can prevented in front of our eyes,global warmings,nationalism,racism.there is no peace only hatred if there is peace any where in the world your living then thank Allah only ,its beacause of his mercy on you.
 
We are killing each other, like animals
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we forget the real enemy and we killing each as if we r not brothers in religion (islam)


Hasbuna Allah Wanema Allwakeel
 
SATalha said:
I thought one of Jewish fundemental beliefs is that once the Moshiach comes than the creation of Isreal is allowed? any answers
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if I recall from reading the bible at the past. the so called king's job will be, establishing the temple and not the land. sums it is up to Jews.
 
islamway said:
The time we are living is " ARE YOU WITH US OR WITHOUT US" has been prevailed.So no doubt we are in end times.you can see the scenario of the world.wars,corruption,high rates of murders,usolved diseases,chidren are dying of common cold which can prevented in front of our eyes,global warmings,nationalism,racism.there is no peace only hatred if there is peace any where in the world your living then thank Allah only ,its beacause of his mercy on you.
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views are vary. some say it is through Armageddon some say through improving the world. not sure. but what is sure is that all mythological aspects.

I don't think will hold in reality. IMO
 
eagleye said:
people who so addicted to find a real enemy should first look at the mirror. will find there the real enemy.
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If any of us every succeed in conquering that enemy, there would most likely be world Peace. However, we each face a very formidable, dangerous and deceitful enemy, an enemy that will destroy us before accepting truth.

The only way we can conquer ourselves is to submit to the will of God(swt) and the minute we conquer ourselves there no longer will be a need to conquer others.
 

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