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Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

Dawud_uk said:
we dont try to convert, only pass on the message, answer questions that come about and then it is between Allah and the individual.

there is none of this 'believe, believe, BELIEVE!' business you get from the christian missionaries.

more an attempt to discuss in a rational manner but how can i have such a discussion with any potential future sikh work colleagues if i only know the very basics of their faith?

Abu Abdullah
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Ask him to explain how great Sikhi is and what benefits he reaps from it! :playing:
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

AvarAllahNoor said:
Ask him to explain how great Sikhi is and what benefits he reaps from it! :playing:
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i have been reading a little online, some of the stories on the bbc religious section mentions castes, i am right in thinking this is just cultural not from the sikh religion?

it is tolerated or actually spoken against to have castes in sikhism?

ps...
sikhism is an anglosized word, what do sikhs call sikhism?

Abu Abdullah
 
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and of-course asking someone to explain their faith is part of such discussions, i think this is important also.

Abu Abdullah
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

Dawud_uk said:
i have been reading a little online, some of the stories on the bbc religious section mentions castes, i am right in thinking this is just cultural not from the sikh religion?

it is tolerated or actually spoken against to have castes in sikhism?

ps...
sikhism is an anglosized word, what do sikhs call sikhism?

Abu Abdullah
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No castes exist in Sikhism (The Khalsa Pure Ones) are the Sikhs!

Sikhi is our dharam! - Keep me informed of the many Sikh converions back in Leicester veer! :D
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

AvarAllahNoor said:
No castes exist in Sikhism (The Khalsa Pure Ones) are the Sikhs!

Sikhi is our dharam! - Keep me informed of the many Sikh converions back in Leicester veer! :D
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yes i discovered this since about the castes,

it is like the muslims from punjab also, they also go into castes a lot even though such things are prohibited in islam also.

a friend even mentioned in pakistan there is a caste for prostitutes and that any woman born into that caste becomes one. truly sick and i am glad that isnt according to sikh teachings and it just peoples misunderstandings of it same as they misunderstand islam.

Abu Abdullah
 
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To learn about Sikhi, you could simply go to sikhnet.com
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

Dawud_uk said:
yes i discovered this since about the castes,

it is like the muslims from punjab also, they also go into castes a lot even though such things are prohibited in islam also.

a friend even mentioned in pakistan there is a caste for prostitutes and that any woman born into that caste becomes one. truly sick and i am glad that isnt according to sikh teachings and it just peoples misunderstandings of it same as they misunderstand islam.

Abu Abdullah
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Indeed! - We as individuals can only learna and better ourselves by following what religion doctines we acknowledge. No face is ever the same. :smile:

Many muslims and Sikhs have strong bonds due to the respect shared by the Muslims saints and vice versa this is all I relate too. I don't care for stories of hatred. Manas Ji Jaat Ke Pechan Woh' Recognise the human race as one. This is the message of the Sikhs!
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

click on attatchment..... short document i made as a beginners guide to sikhi
 
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is that sufficient bro? let me knw if u need n e thing else!
 
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thanks for all that,

kinda good of you considering i have stated my intention at the beginning!

also checking out the bbc site section on religions, been beefed up a bit since last i was on here about 4 years ago and a lot more info.

Abu Abdullah
 
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questions...

1. sikhs not supposed to drink or eat meat?

that is crazy, someone should tell that to the guys at all the sikh pubs in leicester and what is that about not eating meat?

i have never known a sikh not eat meat, i just thought they didnt eat meat santified by another religion such as kosher or halal meat? so is the vegi thing right?

obviously as a muslim agree with the higiene aspects and can respect that.

2. now sikhs say they are against ritual, yet contains 5 prayers it seems. isnt this a contradiction or are sikhs saying only mindless ritual without good intentions or understanding why it is done?

3. now your Guru Granth Sahib, you beleive it to be from God, do you beleive it therefore to be infallable?

Abu Abdullah
 
Guru Granth Sahib?

to all the sikhs on here,

RE: the Guru Granth Sahib...

what language is it written in?
are english translations available?
do you believe it to be infallable word of God or something else?

Abu Abdullah
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

Dawud_uk said:
questions...

1. sikhs not supposed to drink or eat meat?

that is crazy, someone should tell that to the guys at all the sikh pubs in leicester and what is that about not eating meat?

i have never known a sikh not eat meat, i just thought they didnt eat meat santified by another religion such as kosher or halal meat? so is the vegi thing right?

obviously as a muslim agree with the higiene aspects and can respect that.

2. now sikhs say they are against ritual, yet contains 5 prayers it seems. isnt this a contradiction or are sikhs saying only mindless ritual without good intentions or understanding why it is done?

3. now your Guru Granth Sahib, you beleive it to be from God, do you beleive it therefore to be infallable?

Abu Abdullah
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All these questions have been aswered search Sikhism on the forum
 
Re: beginners guide to sikhism?

AvarAllahNoor said:

We have nothing to hide or fear. You seem to think you'll be converting left right and centre :D
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not really.

since i become muslim by the will of Allah, he has only allowed 6 people to become muslim through me passing the message to them.

but it is also my duty to pass on the message and part of that is knowing who you are talking to and where they are coming from and part of that is learning about their faith and scripture.

Abu Abdullah
 
Re: Guru Granth Sahib?

Dawud_uk said:
so if it is the word of God then it should be without contradiction or flaw should it not as muslims claim the Quran to be and jews claim the torah to be and christians claim the bible to be?

Abu Abdullah
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Find me a flaw!
 
Re: Guru Granth Sahib?

Dawud_uk said:
that is obviously my intention, if it is truly a book from God then like the Quran it will be flawless and without error.

Abu Abdullah
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Good luck because many have failed to find one! - Even the most cynical have said amongst the scriptures of other faiths Shri Guru Granth Sahib has been the most difficult to find a flaw within. I can find you the sources if required. NOBODY can fault the Shabad Guru (Word of God)

Also, remember taking a single line and mis-quoting it isn't finding a flaw, read the whole SGGS and then contemplate upon it. Because I too like many can take a line from the Quran and interpret to be something it's not.
 

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