Should Muslims support a Sikh State in northern Inida?

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PCJS said:
chacha Jalebi,

I met this Pakistani Punjabi a few years and he was saying that they wanted United Punjab out of India and Pakistan.
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well im a pakistan panjabi and im sayin i want the pakistani panjab to remain part of panjab :p

and come on man lol we know it will never happen, because its muslims in the pakistan panjab and sikhs in the panjab in india, there will be too much problems like in partition if they were to unite! so inshallah it will never happen :D

and pakistan probably did train the militants to establish khalistan, but i think that mite jus be like a sly plan to like divide up india :D
 
chacha_jalebi said:
and pakistan probably did train the militants to establish khalistan, but i think that mite jus be like a sly plan to like divide up india :D
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i think so too - that the muslim/pakistani interest in khalistan is really more against india than for sikh independence.
 
Yes Aman, you should really go to India and lead a Khalistani group if you are really concerned about Khalistan. Then we will see if you run or fight and die for the cause...
 
Brother, you have serious issues making blatant assumptions. It's getting really old. We could say the same about you. Don't think otherwise because he is a Muslim now. I see no other reason why you would say that. If not, then I apologize beforehand.
 
Yes Aman, you should really go to India and lead a Khalistani group if you are really concerned about Khalistan. Then we will see if you run or fight and die for the cause...
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How else would I take this as :? I'm not trying to argue or anything. Like I said, I apologize if I am misunderstanding you.

Peace :)
 
Tayyaba said:
How else would I take this as :? I'm not trying to argue or anything. Like I said, I apologize if I am misunderstanding you.

Peace :)
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Well this guy, along with others, keeps talking about Khalistan and we know it's simple talk. None of these have guts to go there and do something. So, these people cry about Khalistan outside India and Sikhs in India have to pay the price as police find excuses to kill the innocents.

So that's why I am telling this go to India if he is serious about Khalistan and has any guts and then talk about Khalistan over there. What's point of arguing about Khalistan on the net. If he is truthful, he should go in India and fight for it.
 
Aman4islam said:
hey man chill lol. To start a movement support is needed and support is important then fighting. to achieve khalistan using violence isn't the only means. u should follow your sikhism i suppose lol instead of picking up a ak47 without thinking. None said to kill people to get khalistan, there are lega ways also okay. Support is very important rather then fighting for any movement if you didn't know. Yes I have the guts to pray to allah spiritually and I do have the guts to help the khalistani movement financially but I haven't tested the physical guts maybe InshaAllah in the future.
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Then go there and do it. What's point of screaming here?
 
If you look at my avtar you'll see Sikhs want a homeland called KHALISTAN (Land of hte pure)

History shows mogals tried to eradicate hinduism, but the sikhs came to their rescue. But that was just against the moguls. - As been discussed before, sikhs and muslims have had great realtionships. We have muslims saints Sheikh Fareed Ji being one whose verses are contained within the SGGS. - Foundations of The Golden Gurdwara in indii being laid by Shiekh Mian Mir. so all this animoisty is fabricated mainly to fuel hatred amongst the two. - Guru Gobind Singh, Shah Shenshah had muslims within his army.

During the partion the British offered sikhs a homeland, but those who(insert swear words here) 'represented' sikhs were out to get what they could, nad declined. Well the result is 1984 - THE MASSACRE and attack on the holy shrine of the sikhs. Thousands were killed. - Then primeminister indira gandhi had allowed the attack to take place, and in return she was shot down dead like the DOG she was by her own sikh guards. - On the same day many sikhs were killed by setting them on fire whislt alive many htousnads were killed all led by the congress party who were hindus. - Many Gurdwaras were attacked and many women were raped murdered by these animals. -

To this day nobody has been charged with crimes against humanity, the world did not condemn such acts as they do for bosnia, rawanda dafur etc etc. But that does not bother us sikhs we are the khalas, pure ones of Allah and we don't need people to support us.

Also many sikhs today are being killed as many as 2 million sikh have been killed are ARE still being killed for no reason at all. Sikhs are a martial race and we fear nothing but God! - He has instilled the valour within us. Read the history of the sikhs, the british were godbsmacked by our bravery and recruited sikhs. We are brave and will continue to do so. If a Sikh is NOT KHALISTANI , then he is not a sikh!

Hindus kill sikhs for fun, but they shall perish too. Don't underestimate us. We shall be free from the shackles of slavery. - Pakistan has helped sikhs alot. we have our most sacred shrines in pakistan, and inidia are in fear of this growing relationship between the two. WE SHALL BE FREE!!

RAJ KAREGA KHALSA (THE PURE ONES SHALL RULE)
 
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As far as I know, if I'm correct, the Sikhs are living pretty peacefully with the Muslims in Pakistan. They showed it before on T.V. Living side by side.
 
PCJS said:
aamirsaab, this is a fact that there were alot of Khalistanis trained in Pakistan. So there are people in Pakistan who support Khalistan.

Aman, you can't blame Hindu for what's happening in Punjab. It was Govt. v/s so-called Sikh leaders and most of the officials in Punjab killing innocents were Sikhs themselves.

chacha Jalebi,

I met this Pakistani Punjabi a few years and he was saying that they wanted United Punjab out of India and Pakistan.

Either way, it doesn't matter to me as I would never want to live in Khalistan or so-called United Punjab described by the Pakistani Punjabi.
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I'm a Khalistani, and ALL Sikhs who attend Gurrdwaras in the UK, USA AND Canada are too supporters of the movement. Indii is at logger heads with the UK because of all protests against india that take place here in the UK! - We we want our homeland by peaceful means to begin with, then as Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Shanshah said, as a last resort picking up the sword and fighting is justified!

These so called 'Sikhs' are funded by hindu congress to stop the Khalistani independence. It'll never work - Don't forget we fought the moguls, the british...so what are a few pony tailed hindus to us.

Raj Karege Khalsa! (Pure Ones SHALL rule)
 
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Avar, let me ask you this...

What have you done, in last 10 years or so, to get Khalistan and what are your next 10 year plans to get Khalistan?
 
AvarAllahNoor, would you say the "Khalistani" movement is like a Sikh zionist movement, trying to create a state for your people?

The defintion would be:

Political and cultural movement calling for the return of the Sikh people to their home and to establishing a Sikh homeland.

Would this be correct?
 
Dawud_uk said:
Shouldnt Muslims as a matter of helping end oppression and injustice help those Sikhs who wish to establish a Sikhi homeland in northern India?


What do people think?

Assalaamu Alaykum,
Abu Abdullah
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Our priority should be helping oppressed muslims, not anyone else. And as far as India is concerned it isn't only sikhs who are opressed but also christians and muslims there.
 
PCJS said:
Avar, let me ask you this...

What have you done, in last 10 years or so, to get Khalistan and what are your next 10 year plans to get Khalistan?
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What have you done to get Khalistan, ever?

Did I sound rude asking that? Perhaps that is how you sounded to Avar. Please be more respectful.
 
IzakHalevas said:
AvarAllahNoor, would you say the "Khalistani" movement is like a Sikh zionist movement, trying to create a state for your people?

The defintion would be:

Political and cultural movement calling for the return of the Sikh people to their home and to establishing a Sikh homeland.

Would this be correct?
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Yes, but it will not be just for Sikhs. - Jains, Buddhists Christians Muslims are ALL gropus who are persecuted in india. Sikhs are tolerant. We never convert people like others. We're known as the jews of india. - All will be welcomed to live there as tehy are doing so now, even hindus. :smile:
 
Muezzin said:
What have you done to get Khalistan, ever?

Did I sound rude asking that? Perhaps that is how you sounded to Avar. Please be more respectful.
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I have done nothing because I don't support Khalistan. No, it wasn't rude. I am simply trying to convey that most Khalistanis simply talk about Khalistan, no action.
 
PCJS said:
Avar, let me ask you this...

What have you done, in last 10 years or so, to get Khalistan and what are your next 10 year plans to get Khalistan?
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Read up on the Khalistani movement, and how the UN are now acknowledging the need for independence for the sikhs. The Sikh lobbies held by Sikhs who have had relatives killed by those congress animals. Have you had a family member have his legs pulled apart to the point they are ripped of his body whilst alive, and all this done for just having a long beard and turban, and Kirpan? Well I have!!! - Waheguru Waheguru!!!

May I ask are you a mona??
 

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