Should Muslims support a Sikh State in northern Inida?

[AvarAllahNoor]

I have done nothing because I don't support Khalistan. No, it wasn't rude. I am simply trying to convey that most Khalistanis simply talk about Khalistan, no action.

NO ACTION>?? What the hell do you know about it? evidently zilch! - You need to do some fact checking before spouting rubbish!

 

[PCJS]

Read up on the Khalistani movement, and how the UN are now acknowledging the need for independence for the sikhs. The Sikh lobbies held by Sikhs who have had relatives killed by those congress animals. Have you had a family member have his legs pulled apart to the point they are ripped of his body whilst alive, and all this done for just having a long beard and turban, and Kirpan? Well I have!!! - Waheguru Waheguru!!!

May I ask are you a mona??

Yes I am mona and I have mentioned that before and that's what makes me a unbiased person.

Khalistan is simply not gonna happen and it's useless to talk about it.

Yes there were my people killed in Delhi. We lived in Delhi at the time and my cousin almost was attacked as well. But then, we have had Akali relatives killed by Khalistanis as well. Remember what Sikhs went through under Muslim rulers? You seem to forget that. Remember 1947? Muslims and Sikhs killed each other.

I don't understand why you think Muslims are any nicer to Sikhs than Hindus.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Yes I am mona and I have mentioned that before and that's what makes me a unbiased person.

Khalistan is simply not gonna happen and it's useless to talk about it.

Yes there were my people killed in Delhi. We lived in Delhi at the time and my cousin almost was attacked as well. But then, we have had Akali relatives killed by Khalistanis as well. Remember what Sikhs went through under Muslim rulers? You seem to forget that. Remember 1947? Muslims and Sikhs killed each other.

I don't understand why you think Muslims are any nicer to Sikhs than Hindus.

lol - I see. It's al clear now. You're one of those misgided haircut Sikhs.

-------------(see reason for editing) Indian constitutin does not recognise sikhs as sikhs, but keshdhari hindus. (hindus with long hair) Because you're a mona, you can't understand what it is being a Amritdhari sikh. So best not to particpate in such debats. Mone are seen as hindus, becasue of their appearances. - You talk of the partion clashes, who instageted them? muslim leagures and hindus. - To me history is a big part, but what hindus are doing to sikh TODAY speaks volumes.

You carry on with your clubbing amd jatt culture. Untill you come and Accept the Khalsa way, you'll never know what Sikhi of Guru Nanak Mahraaj is!

Gur fateh!

 

[PCJS]

lol - I see. It's al clear now. You're one of those misgided haircut Sikhs.

You're the ones who like to stir up trouble amonst sikhs and muslims. Hindus (not all) are out to eradicate sikhi, and claim we are part of hindusim. Indian constitutin does not recognise sikhs as sikhs, but keshdhari hindus. (hindus with long hair) Because you're a mona, you can't understand what it is being a Amritdhari sikh. So best not to particpate in such debats. Mone are seen as hindus, becasue of their appearances. - You talk of the partion clashes, who instageted them? muslim leagures and hindus. - To me history is a big part, but what hindus are doing to sikh TODAY speaks volumes.

You carry on with your clubbing amd jatt culture. Untill you come and Accept the Khalsa way, you'll never know what Sikhi of Guru Nanak Mahraaj is!

Gur fateh!

We are not misguided Sikhs. A Sikh is supposed to be most balanced person and fair to all, which we are. Humanity is best religion of all and even Sikhi believes that.

If you ask your elders, you will know that in 1947, clashes were between Sikhs and Muslims rather than Hindus and Muslims. My great grand father used live in Lahore before partition. They went to India via train. They heard that the Muslim who helped him get out of Pakistan was killed and everybody in trains before and after theirs was killed. If you ask someone, you will find out that Sikhs killed Muslims in Muslim villages and put them on fire and Muslims did the same to Sikhs...

Khalsa is spiritually perfected person and I don't think you are a spiritually perfected person. So, it doesn't make sense to call yourself a Khalsa

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Our priority should be helping oppressed muslims, not anyone else. And as far as India is concerned it isn't only sikhs who are opressed but also christians and muslims there.

^^It should be our priority sis, but we should also help those who are in need.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

We are not misguided Sikhs. A Sikh is supposed to be most balanced person and fair to all, which we are. Humanity is best religion of all and even Sikhi believes that.

If you ask your elders, you will know that in 1947, clashes were between Sikhs and Muslims rather than Hindus and Muslims. My great grand father used live in Lahore before partition. They went to India via train. They heard that the Muslim who helped him get out of Pakistan was killed and everybody in trains before and after theirs was killed. If you ask someone, you will find out that Sikhs killed Muslims in Muslim villages and put them on fire and vice versa...

Khalsa is spiritually perfected person and I don't think you are a spiritually perfected person. So, it doesn't make sense to call yourself a Khalsa

We have good and bad amonst all. All religions have a history, we're not immune to it. - Indai is not loyal to Sikhs, and Sikhs will not be loyal to india. Khalistan will be formed, just as the USSR was adamant they would not fall.

True and you'll know the meaning of the word Sikh - Learner. I'll never be perfect. If I said i was, i'd be caught up in haume (ego)

The cries of RAJ KAREGE KHALSA are those that Shah-A-Shanasha Guru Gobind Singh ji uttered and his word was God's word!

 

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis
Our priority should be helping oppressed muslims, not anyone else. And as far as India is concerned it isn't only sikhs who are opressed but also christians and muslims there.

lol how VERY islamic of you...

Yup, very! The day I see muslims standing up for their own brothers and sisters, I'll have no problem with them helping anyone else. That is the meaning of priority. I'm sure muslims wouldn't mind signing petitions for your cause, if that's the kind of help you have in mind. But I'd be against muslims getting involved on a deeper level when their own brothers and sisters are waiting for their help.

^^It should be our priority sis, but we should also help those who are in need.

well, I'm not dead against helping anyone but it could make matters worse for muslims, especially in India. I think enough muslim blood has been shed already. It's time muslims helped each other instead. And anyway, I can't see muslims helping sikhs when they can't even help each other.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Of course Muslims are number 1 on my list, SubhanAllah. And if anyone thinks thats a problem, then so be it.

 

[thirdwatch512]

i am an extreme socialist liberal, and most extreme socialist liberals don't want any religious states.

however, i think that there should be one big shariah state, one big protestant nation, one big catholic nation, one big sikh, hindu, and so forth lol. and the rest of the earth would be secular. that way religious fundementalists could shut up and stop complaining lol.

anyways as for khalistan.. i don't see why not! the sikhs are some of the nicest people on earth. they're the majority in that area, so why not?

and for those of you muslims out there who said you didn't support it.. when pakistan became a nation, i'm sure you supported them, right? so what's the difference? this is just another religion being persecuted, and they should form their own nation if they want.