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KANDAHAR, Afghanistan -- Military investigators from two countries are looking into two separate crashes that killed eight NATO soldiers and injured 27 yesterday in southern and eastern Afghanistan.

The worse accident involved a coalition CH-47 Chinook helicopter that crashed in the Shahjoy district of Zabul province, roughly 270 km northeast of Kandahar.

The chopper, carrying 22 U.S. service members, suffered a sudden, unexplained loss of power and crashed near the main highway to Kabul.

"The loss of these service members is felt by all of us here in Afghanistan, and we offer our deepest sympathy to the families of those who were killed," said Lt.-Col. David Accetta, a coalition spokesman.

The U.S. military emphasized that the cause of the crash was believed to be mechanical and not due to hostile action, although the aircraft was carrying troops meant to counter an expected militant operation.
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"It was not enemy-fire-related," said Col. Tom Collins, a spokesman for NATO in Kabul. "The pilot was able to radio in that he was having engine problems. We're confident it was not due to enemy action."

The eight dead and 14 injured in the chopper early yesterday followed the crash of three Canadian armoured vehicles on the pre-dawn streets of Kandahar.

Thirteen Canadian soldiers suffered minor injuries early yesterday when their LAV III fighting vehicles smashed into one another. The accident happened when a convoy of recently arrived combat troops was moving between bases, said Maj. Dale MacEachern, a spokesman for the Canadian Forces.

All of the injured were treated at the nearby medical clinic at the Canadian-run provincial reconstruction base, but six of them were transferred by air to the NATO hospital at Kandahar Airfield.

Details on the collision were not released and military police were investigating.

Source http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2007/02/19/3644388-sun.html

As Usual the Kuffar always lie about their ways, this is the Mujahideen Side of the Story...

A Helicopter of invaders troops shoot downed in Helmand

Qari M Yousuf

Yesterday Mujahideen of Emarat Islamic with antiaircraft weapon fired and shot down a Helicopter of invaders which was going for the military apparitions between Grishk and Sangen districts of Helmand province .

After a incident it was going to there base and there were no correct details about the location of this incident and travelers of the Helicopter .

Possible it was that Helicopter which invaders claimed suffered Malfunctions,

Source http://www.alemarah.org/english--3-18-2-2007.html

So Oh You Muslims and Mumeenin Which of the stories do you believe? Those of the Kuffar or those of your brothers?
 
Is it wise for the Mujahideen to announce they have antiaircraft artillery in the region? Would not the wiser move be to keep that quiet if the US forces thought it had been because of malfunction?

A poor move in combat is to let the enemy know what weapons you have and where they are located.
 
Mahdi;

Was this one of those anti-aircraft weapons that just happened to be firing into the air at a wedding ceremony?

Also, an observation. Is it really appropriate for you to be gloating over the death of American/Canadian/British soldiers on an Islamic Forum which has the stated purpose of improving understanding?

People might get the wrong idea. They might assume you are a juvenile, hate-filled cheerleader for the Taliban, too young or too old or to cowardly to do the fighting yourself.

Do you see any Westerners crowing here when a bunch of your taliban bros buy the farm?
 
mahdisoldier19 said:
The U.S. military emphasized that the cause of the crash was believed to be mechanical and not due to hostile action, although the aircraft was carrying troops meant to counter an expected militant operation.
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Don't feel bad... they ALWAYS say that!

But, you know what? I'm sick to death of those air raids! They kill more civillians in air raids than the Sunnis and Shia combined, and justify all those deaths because of one rumor they over-heard concerning a single "high value target" that "might" have been there!

They don't want things like peace. If they did, they would have taken OBL's offer for a truce... and just think of how many people would be alive today if Bush had done that!? But he's a proud peacock. So proud in fact he has to attack farmers with fighter jets! Pft.

Ninth Scribe
 
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Ninth_Scribe said:
Don't feel bad... they ALWAYS say that!

But, you know what? I'm sick to death of those air raids! They kill more civillians in air raids than the Sunnis and Shia combined, and justify all those deaths because of one rumor they over-heard concerning a single "high value target" that "might" have been there!

Ninth Scribe
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Don't feel bad? Interesting choice of words..and quite telling actually.
 
Attack helicopters usually do fly pretty low, but I was surprised the transport chopper was that vulnerable.
 
Here is an idea....... instead of either side saying "YAY they are dead!!!!" why not try saying we all need to come together to find a way to make the killing stop????


Just a thought.
 
tomtomsmom said:
Here is an idea....... instead of either side saying "YAY they are dead!!!!" why not try saying we all need to come together to find a way to make the killing stop????


Just a thought.
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Sounds great. How do we do that?
 
Keltoi said:
Don't feel bad? Interesting choice of words..and quite telling actually.
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It's pretty sad that you get so hung up on one part of a statement, but not the other. Yes, it does frustrate people when they discover others have been lying about them. Then of course, there are all the lies that were told. You seem to conveniently blip off radar at that point. Why?

Hmm. A person who proudly displays the badge of the 101st without being military thinks he pegged me? Laughs! Go ahead, take a shot. East Coast Aerotech? Hanscom AFB? M.I.T.? Ain't Misbehavin? Boy, you're clueless! Don't know why you want to hang on my every word for what is or isn't "telling" but have a blast.

Ninth Scribe
 
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Keltoi said:
Sounds great. How do we do that?
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Easy. Renounce Israel. Withdraw all US troops on foreign soil...in fact, even better...dissolve the armed forces. Stop being so gosh darned successful and making other people feel bad about their own ineptitude. Free parking for foreign diplomats at the UN.....hmm...that about does it.

Oh wait, silly me...I forgot. All Americans must convert to Islam.
 
Ninth_Scribe said:
Don't feel bad... they ALWAYS say that!

But, you know what? I'm sick to death of those air raids! They kill more civillians in air raids than the Sunnis and Shia combined, and justify all those deaths because of one rumor they over-heard concerning a single "high value target" that "might" have been there!

They don't want things like peace. If they did, they would have taken OBL's offer for a truce... and just think of how many people would be alive today if Bush had done that!? But he's a proud peacock. So proud in fact he has to attack farmers with fighter jets! Pft.

Ninth Scribe
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A minor point...it was a transport helicopter. It was no air raid.

Re. OBL and a "truce"...oh please...that is rich.
 
Cognescenti said:
A minor point...it was a transport helicopter. It was no air raid.

Re. OBL and a "truce"...oh please...that is rich.
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Oh, give over... it was an enemy craft that was transporting soldiers. As for OBL - he may have said a ton of things we hated hearing... but I've yet to catch him in a lie. Bush on the other hand - well, nuff said!

Ninth Scribe
 
The US are fully aware of what artillery the Taliban possess becuase they are usually in the firing line, where in turn the US ends up bombing villages full of civilians. A failed attempt by the tyrannical greedy war freaks in the whitehouse to occupy and control a country.
Victory is winning people's hearts and minds and their trust, not killing them in record numbers.
 
tomtomsmom said:
Well we could start by not teaching the children of the world hate. You know the kids today are the people blowing crap up tomorrow!!!
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Kind of hard to do that when one , the United States supports Israel which is the biggest oppressor in the Middle East of Muslims.

2) Invasion of Iraq which led to mass killings,rape, murder which will spawn a new generation of Angry Iraqi Children who see their parents killed or own family members butchered

3) Same goes for in Afghanistan

4) The United States who funded Saddam the same man Donald Rumsfeld shook hands with, giving in Depleted Uranium which led to the sickness of millions of Muslim children.

5) You Turn on the News, all you hear is that this man was an extremist, terrorist when concerning a Muslim or such and such to the point that it comes only associated with a Muslim these days perhaps ( Great propaganda by the Media).
 
mahdisoldier19 said:
Kind of hard to do that when one , the United States supports Israel which is the biggest oppressor in the Middle East of Muslims.

2) Invasion of Iraq which led to mass killings,rape, murder which will spawn a new generation of Angry Iraqi Children who see their parents killed or own family members butchered

3) Same goes for in Afghanistan

4) The United States who funded Saddam the same man Donald Rumsfeld shook hands with, giving in Depleted Uranium which led to the sickness of millions of Muslim children.

5) You Turn on the News, all you hear is that this man was an extremist, terrorist when concerning a Muslim or such and such to the point that it comes only associated with a Muslim these days perhaps ( Great propaganda by the Media).
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If you hate the US so much, why do you live there? Quite hypocrytical isn't it? "I hate this country, but I sure love the benefits that come with living here."
 
Cognescenti said:
Mahdi;

Was this one of those anti-aircraft weapons that just happened to be firing into the air at a wedding ceremony?

Also, an observation. Is it really appropriate for you to be gloating over the death of American/Canadian/British soldiers on an Islamic Forum which has the stated purpose of improving understanding?

People might get the wrong idea. They might assume you are a juvenile, hate-filled cheerleader for the Taliban, too young or too old or to cowardly to do the fighting yourself.

Do you see any Westerners crowing here when a bunch of your taliban bros buy the farm?
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That seems to be the main difference. There always seems to be this element that is happy about the death of others. Quite pathetic really. Cheering from the sidelines while others die.
 
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