Director James Cameron says he has found the body of Jesus (no, really)

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http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/02/jesus_tales_from_the_crypt.html

Jesus: Tales from the Crypt

Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.
--Tim McGirk/Jerusalem
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No one found the body 1900+ years ago. I don't think they are too worried.
How would you ID the remains? DNA? :D
 
I find this to be an outrage to us Muslims also. Does not the Qur'an tell us that Isa(as) was raised up to Heaven.

3:55. (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ. Y S C

Pickthal's Quran Translation


4:157. And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. Y S C

4:158. But Allah took him up unto Himself. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. Y S C
4:159. There is not one of the People of the Scripture but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them - Y S C


Pickthal's Quran Translation
 
Years ago, I believe it was in the 1960s there was another similar story that Isa's(as) body was found in India. Come to think of it it seems that stories of this nature appear about every 20 or 30 years, just with some slight twists as to location.

Sounds like a good movie for all of us to boycott.
 
film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici are producing the TV special and are presenting it as fact. But, it appears the story is based upon a very poor practical joke that got carried away.
 
It's not the same story, though, is it? The Cameron one is about a family tomb (which may, or may not, have anything to do with Jesus of course) while the second, spoof one, is about a grave of executed 'criminals', i.e Jesus and those crucified with him.
 
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selam alaikum,

guys we don't need to take non-muslims's sayings to prove of what we believe, surely Allah swt has told us in the Qur'an and there is no more point to argue about that, as for some they will allways reject it no matter how much you bring proof. and Da vinci code in some things contradicts even Islamic teachings bc Isa a.s was not married as we know in Islam, he will get married when he comes back InshaAllah. So let's stick with reliable sources like Qur'an and Sunnah. And btw we know that the bodies of the prophets when they are buried,(they do not decay) they do not become bones like all people do .
 
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sorry for expressing myself wrong, i mean we can't say that he was not married for definite, i think there is a hadith about it, but as far as I know there is nothing mentioned in the Qur'an that Jesus(Isa a.s) was married.
 
vpb said:
sorry for expressing myself wrong, i mean we can't say that he was not married for definite, i think there is a hadith about it, but as far as I know there is nothing mentioned in the Qur'an that Jesus(Isa a.s) was married.
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There are several hadiths explaining that Jesus will get married when he returns.
 
There are several hadiths explaining that Jesus will get married when he returns.
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yes that's what I said, and also i think there is a hadith which says that Jesus (Isa a.s) was not married but again I dont know, but Qur'an does not specifically mention that he was married.
 



I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)

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duskiness said:
oh that is something new to me! Is it a common belief? where does it come from? Any sources?
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---u may visit this link.

Prophet Jesus (p) and The Da Vinci Code *

Text of Friday Khutbah at the Islamic Society of Orange County, California, United States

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...agename=Zone-English-Living_Shariah/LSELayout



another link: ( did not read the whole post , may be useful)


http://www.islam.tc/prophecies/jesus.html


His Marriage, Death and Deputies

After his descension on earth, Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will marry.


He will have children, and he will remain on earth 19 years after marriage. He will pass away and Muslims will perform his Janaza Salaat and bury him next to Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam). (Tirmidhi)



from: Hadhrat Esa (Alaihis Salaam): The Truth Revealed
and Major Signs of Qiyamat


by Mufti Afzal Hoosein Elias (May Allah reward him for his work in producing these kitaabs, aameen.)





 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6397373.stm

Jesus tomb found, says film-maker

Jesus had a son named Judah and was buried alongside Mary Magdalene, according to a new documentary by Hollywood film director James Cameron.

It examines a tomb found near Jerusalem in 1980 which the film-makers say belonged to Jesus and his family.

The Oscar-winning director of Titanic says statistical analysis and DNA back the claim.

Archaeologists say that the burial cave is probably that of a Jewish family with similar names to that of Jesus.

Samples tested

Israeli construction workers building an apartment complex in Jerusalem's East Talpiot district first uncovered 10 2,000-year-old ossuaries - or limestone coffins - in a tomb in March 1980.

According to the Israel Antiquities Authority, six of those coffins were marked with the names Mary; Matthew; Jesua son of Joseph; Mary; Jofa (Joseph, Jesus' brother); and Judah son of Jesua.

The documentary The Lost Tomb of Jesus, produced by Mr Cameron, claims tests on samples from two of the coffins show Jesus and Mary Magdalene were likely to have been buried in them and were a couple.

The film-makers used this finding to claim that the coffin marked "Judah son of Jesua" contains the son of Jesus and Mary.

They say the discovery of the tomb does not mean that Jesus was not resurrected three days after his death - a key Christian belief.

Academic Stephen Pfann, a scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem, said he did not expect Christians to accept the film's findings.

"I don't think that Christians are going to buy into this," said Mr Pfann, who was interviewed by the film-makers.

"But sceptics, in general, would like to see something that pokes holes into the story that so many people hold dear."

Findings refuted

Israeli archaeologist Amos Kloner, who was among the first to examine the tomb when it was first discovered, said the names marked on the coffins were very common at the time.

"I don't accept the news that it was used by Jesus or his family," he told the BBC News website.

"The documentary filmmakers are using it to sell their film."

Mr Cameron will show two of the coffins at a news conference in New York on Monday.

"It doesn't get bigger than this," he said in a press release.

"We've done our homework; we've made the case; and now it's time for the debate to begin."

Local residents said they were pleased with the attention the tomb has drawn.

"It will mean our house prices will go up because Christians will want to live here," one woman said.
 
It's a pity Mr Cameron wants to faff about in tombs. I would have much preferred it if he had put his efforts into making Terminator 4.
 
I saw tonight around 20 minutes from the press conference and the catholic priest which was invited like guest to comment whats happening in New York said nothing can be truth because: 1.the names are common;2.that time the dead people were buried in white clothes, like the one which is exposed in Torino.They didn't use limestones coffins.
 
I don't think this threatens belief in anyway. We'll see where the evidence leads. We rememer that archaeology doesn't "prove" anything. It is evidence. The evidence is interpreted, and its effect on the community is gauged.
 

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