What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?

[SoyBoricua]

This is just meant as an honest question, no offense intended but...

I do have to ask you guys why are you coming to my Island and my hometown for?
The reasons for asking this will become clear so please bear with me...

This is the mosque that your fellow correligionaires whom most are from Palestine and Jordan and whom for the most part speak neither English nor Spanish have built using money from Saudi Arabia and a few well stablsihed wealthy palestinians such as the owner of El Amal Pharmacies Saleh Yassin.

Now the question is since they do not speak either of the main languages and can't hold jobs why are they here for? Why are the Saudis and the few Wealthy palestinians paying not just for the building of mosques but for the housing, food etc. of muslims brought from the aforementioned places?

Now that the reasons behind me asking are clear can anyone here give an answer?
Thx...

 

[Woodrow]

Perhaps for the same reason so many have come here to Texas. They came because of opportunity to advance and to fulfill all themselves to their highest Potential.

You may have noticed that Palestine and Jordan and not exactly conducive to people who have good business skills and the like. Does it not make more sense for them to go to areas where they can utilise their skills, earn higher income and use that to help their country men to the best of their ability.

It also makes sense for people to go to an areas where there is high tolerance for Muslims, which apparantly the people of your country shaow and I would assume your country has no laws that would prevent them from living as Muslims.

Yes, some will come for the purpose of helping our religion. However we do not advocate spreading Islam by force or obnoxious Evangelism. We believe that the best way is by example and to let people see that we truly are people of peace and it is our desire to live in Harmony with all people.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

muslims have a duty to spread islam as far as they can, perhaps thats what these muslims are trying to do

 

[SoyBoricua]

Perhaps for the same reason so many have come here to Texas. They came because of opportunity to advance and to fulfill all themselves to their highest Potential.

You may have noticed that Palestine and Jordan and not exactly conducive to people who have good business skills and the like. Does it not make more sense for them to go to areas where they can utilise their skills, earn higher income and use that to help their country men to the best of their ability.

It also makes sense for people to go to an areas where there is high tolerance for Muslims, which apparantly the people of your country shaow and I would assume your country has no laws that would prevent them from living as Muslims.

Yes, some will come for the purpose of helping our religion. However we do not advocate spreading Islam by force or obnoxious Evangelism. We believe that the best way is by example and to let people see that we truly are people of peace and it is our desire to live in Harmony with all people.

*Sigh* Now you obviously missed all this and I quote again:

Now the question is since they do not speak either of the main languages and can't hold jobs why are they here for? Why are the Saudis and the few Wealthy palestinians paying not just for the building of mosques but for the housing, food etc. of muslims brought from the aforementioned places?

Do you honestly think that if they were actually working and integrating into our society I would even be asking this? But they are not so please be so kind as to not ignore the issue at hand as you did before. And do not give me excuses of this people looking for jobs and oportunities because a) they do not speak either English or Spanish b) As a result they can't hold any jobs on the impoverished job market in the island anyway and c) Most of them are obviously being mantained by overseas funding.

So the point is. This particular muslims are not here to look for jobs nor oportunities, they are not interested at all in that or integrating into society so again I ask what is the nature of their business here then?

And that mosque does not look like a place to invite anyone to know about Islam but rather like a **** fortress in my opinion! For one instead of a main entrance on the outside as most mosques, churches or common places of worship that building obviusly has the main entrance inside an inner patio and the only access point are those heavy metal doors...

muslims have a duty to spread islam as far as they can, perhaps thats what these muslims are trying to do

And how are they too acomplish that? It cannot be by invitation or what you guys call Dawa as they are not making any effort for the most part to learn any of the languges spoken here so that only leaves what? The sword?

 

[Sabbir_1]

So what if there there.. why u making a big fuss about it. they got the money and they spending it for a good cause building mosques.. for muslims to pray in...

 

[ABWAN]

Hello SoyBoricua,
I think you should probably go talk to those people yourself. If you feel uncomfortable, send me a plane ticket to your island and I can volunteer to go check them out for you.

 

['Abd al-Baari]

muslims have a duty to spread islam as far as they can, perhaps thats what these muslims are trying to do

hmm i agree

 

[aamirsaab]

So the point is. This particular muslims are not here to look for jobs nor oportunities, they are not interested at all in that or integrating into society so again I ask what is the nature of their business here then?

Why not ask them.

And that mosque does not look like a place to invite anyone to know about Islam but rather like a **** fortress in my opinion!

Yeah, if you look close enough you can see gaurds inside the turrets, with bandanas around their head.

For one instead of a main entrance on the outside as most mosques, churches or common places of worship that building obviusly has the main entrance inside an inner patio and the only access point are those heavy metal doors...

Heavy metal doors as opposed to light paper doors? Or even no door?

And how are they too acomplish that? It cannot be by invitation or what you guys call Dawa as they are not making any effort for the most part to learn any of the languges spoken here so that only leaves what? The sword?

You really are looking far too deep into it. If you really wanted an answer you would have gone upto them and asked 'excuse me, but erm, why are you here?' instead of asking on a forum who would have no idea whatsoever.

 

[rubiesand]

I do have to ask you guys why are you coming to my Island and my hometown for?

We (the members on this forum) are not coming to your Island or your hometown! The individuals who are present in your hometown are the ones you should address your question to. Thank you.

 

[Idris]

Were is the Christian love gone?

You should be tell them to come to your house. Show some love not hate.

 

[Goku]

What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?

If you are who i think you are, you're being heck of a lot politer than usual, not the usual insults on every post? I wonder why.....:-\ Maybe because this forum is a Lot more civilised.

Nontheless i hope you enjoy your stay here and have constructive discussions.

 

[SoyBoricua]

Why not ask them.

I'd love too but there's no phone to reach them! And the one that apparently runs the mosque is not very fond of us anyway. He treated me with a lot of suspicion when I tried to contact him using the username he himself provided on emuslim.com and the minute I suggested that it would be preferable for the to use the method we ourselves used for Viequez he blocked me...

Even their services at the mosque are at hours when most of us including myself are ussualy working so they are deliberaty avoiding as much contact with the locals as possible and as such there's no way to ask them!

Yeah, if you look close enough you can see gaurds inside the turrets, with bandanas around their head.

Funny I only said it looked like a fortress not that it was a den of Jihadists as you have now suggested but thx for that heads up...

Heavy metal doors as opposed to light paper doors? Or even no door?

No I mean regular doors to the outside such as this:

Do not try to smart arse yourself out of this. That mosque does not look like most mosques that one would see all over the world and that is a fact...

You really are looking far too deep into it. If you really wanted an answer you would have gone upto them and asked 'excuse me, but erm, why are you here?' instead of asking on a forum who would have no idea whatsoever.

I'm asking here because they are unwilling to provide any answers and because they are your fellow muslims after all are they not?

 

[Woodrow]

Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
Perhaps for the same reason so many have come here to Texas. They came because of opportunity to advance and to fulfill all themselves to their highest Potential.

You may have noticed that Palestine and Jordan and not exactly conducive to people who have good business skills and the like. Does it not make more sense for them to go to areas where they can utilise their skills, earn higher income and use that to help their country men to the best of their ability.

It also makes sense for people to go to an areas where there is high tolerance for Muslims, which apparantly the people of your country shaow and I would assume your country has no laws that would prevent them from living as Muslims.

Yes, some will come for the purpose of helping our religion. However we do not advocate spreading Islam by force or obnoxious Evangelism. We believe that the best way is by example and to let people see that we truly are people of peace and it is our desire to live in Harmony with all people.

*Sigh* Now you obviously missed all this and I quote again:

Now the question is since they do not speak either of the main languages and can't hold jobs why are they here for? Why are the Saudis and the few Wealthy palestinians paying not just for the building of mosques but for the housing, food etc. of muslims brought from the aforementioned places?

Do you honestly think that if they were actually working and integrating into our society I would even be asking this? But they are not so please be so kind as to not ignore the issue at hand as you did before. And do not give me excuses of this people looking for jobs and oportunities because a) they do not speak either English or Spanish b) As a result they can't hold any jobs on the impoverished job market in the island anyway and c) Most of them are obviously being mantained by overseas funding.

So the point is. This particular muslims are not here to look for jobs nor oportunities, they are not interested at all in that or integrating into society so again I ask what is the nature of their business here then?

And that mosque does not look like a place to invite anyone to know about Islam but rather like a **** fortress in my opinion! For one instead of a main entrance on the outside as most mosques, churches or common places of worship that building obviusly has the main entrance inside an inner patio and the only access point are those heavy metal doors...


Really seems strange that you are even asking. Since That is the Picture of the Ponce Islamic Center in Peurto Rico. I assume you are either in Peurto Rico or NYC.

I could be asking you Why do so many of your fellow Peurto Ricons come here to the US and don't even speak the language and have no desire to learn English? Why does NYC have a larger PR population than San Juan and why do they insist on living in there own barrios in NYC and are very secretive and hostile if any of us "Gringos" step on the PR turf in NYC?

Answer those questions and you will understand why some mideasterners are coming to PR.

The Reason for the high security around the Mosque, is to be blunt, your fellow country men do have some hostile members that can be quite hostile towards anybody who is not PR and not Roman Catholic.

So I will say answer why so many of your country men insist on coming up here to the states and you will have answered part of your own question.



As a Texas Cowboy I have seen the bigotry my country men here in the States have shown against your relatives in PR. Now, please understand that seems to be the same bigotry you are showing. Reverse bigotry is still bigotry.

 

[afriend]

So, we're supposed to keep a track on every single Muslim brother/sister in the world. Heck I can't even keep a track on myself at times. If we all had that closeness and knowledge for the actions of every Muslim in the world, the Muslims would definitely be different to what they are today

 

[England]

You should move to Poland. They're 95% Roman Catholic.... I've spoken to alot of Poles and they've said they're shocked at the amount ethnics there are and that it's rare in Poland. One of a few countries that keep their borders closed!

 

[afriend]

You should move to Poland. They're 95% Roman Catholic.... I've spoken to alot of Poles and they've said they're shocked at the amount ethnics there are and that it's rare in Poland. One of a few countries that keep their borders closed!

Oh, no indian takeaways for them...A life without curry, they don't know what they're missing

I personally feel that multi-culturism should be promoted, because it brings with tollerance, a range of different ideas which will surely help us in our daily lives, like curry for instance.

 

[SilentObserver]

You should move to Poland. They're 95% Roman Catholic.... I've spoken to alot of Poles and they've said they're shocked at the amount ethnics there are and that it's rare in Poland. One of a few countries that keep their borders closed!

So many problems could be minimized or even solved if all countries would just close their borders. I continue to work towards this goal. Someday....

 

[England]

Oh, no indian takeaways for them...A life without curry, they don't know what they're missing

I personally feel that multi-culturism should be promoted, because it brings with tollerance, a range of different ideas which will surely help us in our daily lives, like curry for instance.

People can live without takeaways :-\ If it's there we will eat it, if not then there are alternatives...
I don't think multi-culturalism should be promoted. I believe Poland is correct in its immigration policy. Multi-culturalism doesn't work. It creates conflicts.

An example, I don't think mine and your cultures mix too well.

 

[Goku]

I think multiculturalism gives us a better understanding of other cultures in terms of where we live, it mostly works.

 

[England]

I think multiculturalism gives us a better understanding of other cultures in terms of where we live, it mostly works.

It's not the case in Britain nor many other countries that have opened their doors to multiculturalism. It's lead to battles, conflicts, debates of the laws and cultures. It's lead to an increasing threat of terrorism. I believe Poland will one of the last countries to face a terrorist attack because of their immigration control.