A Call for Coexistence .. By Amr khaled

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Surah Mumtahinah 60:8 - Tafsir Ibn Kathir


The Permissibility of being Kind to Disbelievers who do not fight against the Religion And Allah's statement;


[لاَّ يَنْهَـكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَـتِلُوكُمْ فِى الدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُمْ مِّن دِيَـرِكُمْ]


(Allah does not forbid you with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out of your homes,) means, those who did not have a role in your expulsion. Therefore, Allah does not forbid you from being kind to the disbelievers who do not fight you because of the religion, such as women and weak disbelievers,


[أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ]


(to deal kindly) to be gentle with them,
[وَتُقْسِطُواْ إِلَيْهِمْ]


(and justly with those) to be fair with them
[إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ]


(Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.) Imam Ahmad recorded that Asma' bint Abu Bakr said, "My mother, who was an idolatress at the time, came to me during the Treaty of Peace, the Prophet conducted with the Quraysh. I came to the Prophet and said, `O Allah's Messenger! My mother came visiting, desiring something from me, should I treat her with good relations' The Prophet said,
«نَعَمْ صِلِي أُمَّك»


(Yes. Keep good relation with your mother.)'' The Two Sahihs recorded this Hadith. Imam Ahmad recorded that `Abdullah bin Zubayr said, "Qutaylah came visiting her daughter, Asma' bint Abi Bakr, with some gifts, such as Dibab, cheese and clarified (cooking) butter, and she was an idolatress at that time. Asma' refused to accept her mother's gifts and did not let her enter her house. `A'ishah asked the Prophet about his verdict and Allah sent down the Ayah,


[لاَّ يَنْهَـكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَـتِلُوكُمْ فِى الدِّينِ]


(Allah does not forbid you with those who fought not against you on account of religion) until the end of the Ayah. Allah's Messenger ordered Asma' to accept her mother's gifts and to let her enter her house.'' Allah's statement,
[إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ]


(Allah loves those who deal with equity.) was duly explained in the Tafsir of Surat Al-Hujurat. We also mentioned the authentic Hadith,


«الْمُقْسِطُونَ عَلى مَنَابِرَ مِنْ نُورٍ عَنْ يَمِينِ الْعَرْشِ، الَّذِينَ يَعْدِلُونَ فِي حُكْمِهِمْ وَأَهَالِيهِمْ وَمَا وَلُوا»


(The just, who are fair in their decisions, families and those under their authority, will be on podiums made of light, to the right of the Throne.)








 
Yes i totally agree with everything you said, we must be fair to them, treat them kindly, and if they have a closer relationship to us (like familly, or neighbours) then this should be respected more, as you mentioned in the Hadeeth. Still this does not me calling for the unity of religions, or even to love the people who do not believe in Islam. Dealing with people well is on thing and loving them is another.
 
peace be upon you:

"Allah does not forbid you with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out of your homes,to deal kindly and justly with those,Allah loves those who deal with equity."

thank you brother Fi_Sabilillah for this reply .. Jazaka'allah khairan.

Yes i totally agree with everything you said, we must be fair to them, treat them kindly, and if they have a closer relationship to us (like familly, or neighbours) then this should be respected more, as you mentioned in the Hadeeth. Still this does not me calling for the unity of religions, or even to love the people who do not believe in Islam. Dealing with people well is on thing and loving them is another.

brother Karimeldib .. Iam really regard you and your different opinion.
and I agree with you about this point:
As Muslims we must treat people who are not Muslim kindly and fairly, but we can not love them or take them as awlya' (close friends).

on this thread I don't mean only the Coexistence between moslems and not moslems .. I mean as well the Coexistence between the moslems themselves.
between sunna and shia'a .. between you and me.
we should appreciate each other, understand each other, regard each other even we are different.
I don't talk about Love Or Hate ....

Insha'allah This thread will talk about the storys of the four Imams (Islamic scholars): ash-Shafe’yy, Abu-Hanifa, Malik and Ahmad Ibn-Hanbal.
that will focus on coexistence intertwined in the stories of the four Imams.

I hope this thread be benefic to you and me as well ..

peace
 
A call to an Islamic union:
On this site we shall be concentrating on the urgent requirement for the establishment of an Islamic Union, one of the most important needs facing the Muslim World with its 1.2 billion population spead over a broad region of the world.

http://www.theislamicunion.com
 
Greetings and peace be with you mariam
Striving to bring about an Islamic Union inevitably means bringing people together with diverse beliefs. What possible grounds are there to bring people together?

Islam is not on its own in the search for unity, Christianity also suffers with many schisms and would dearly like unity.

It always seems like a power struggle with two giants seeking supremacy.

Somehow despite all our differences I believe that interfaith friendship is the way forwards; were we seek justice for all people despite all our great differences.

In the spirit of praying for peace on Earth

Eric
 
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Brotherhood of three religion:
As people who believe in God and follow His revelations, let us rally to a common formula - "faith". Let's love God, Who is our Creator and Lord, and follow His commands. And let us pray God to lead us to an even straighter path. When Muslims, Christians and Jews rally to a common formula this way; when they understand that they are friends not enemies,then the world will become a very different place.
The fighting that has raged for ages, enmities, fears - and terrorist attacks - will come to an end, and a new civilization based on love, respect and peace will be established upon this "common formula".

http://www.unionoffaiths.com


Thankyou Mariam for this thread, when I read this I actually cried.

I do not have my Quran to hand to put the correct quote but didn't Allah say that had He wished He could have made all people one nation and one religion. Clearly He didn't and on the day of judgement Allah will tell us the difference between us. If I have understood this correctly then who are we (as mere people) to 'judge' people for their nationality, skin colour or faith?

Perhaps a brother or sister could let me know Quranic quote for this passage and let me know if I have understood it correctly.
 
More Harun Yahya junk. :raging: :raging:
I guess Adnan Oktar extensive education in Interior Design gives him great insight on how do deign a world union. :? :D

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSL2652676520070326?pageNumber=2

These theoretical debates became a pressing issue in France last month when schools unexpectedly received free copies of an "Atlas of Creation" by Turkish Islamist Harun Yahya that blames Darwinism for everything from terrorism to Nazism.
 
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I'm sorry but Islam does not tell us to have union of faiths, the only way Muslims will accept this union of faiths is if we all unite under the religion of all the prophets, the religion of God, Islam. As Muslims we must believe that there is only one correct religion, there is no uncertainty about this.
As Muslims we must treat people who are not Muslim kindly and fairly, but we can not love them or take them as awlya' (close friends).
Our real friends are other Muslims.. chapter 5 verse 55-57 (( Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (Fellowship of) Believers, those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship). [56] As to those who turn (for friendship) to Allah, His Messenger, and the (Fellowship of) Believers, it is the Fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph. [57] O ye who believe! Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport, whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah if ye have Faith (indeed).))
Allah tells us chapter 60 verse 4 (( There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred forever, unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"..))
Allah also warns us chapter 4 verse 51 (( O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust))

I have heard this so many times and everytime it comes across just as disturbing as the last. It is a reason that I would never become a Muslim or follower of Islam, and is a reason that I look at many Muslims that I dont know with doubt and skepticism. Why not love another man or woman just because they dont share your faith? We do not live in the days of Muhammad, then there would have been reasons to not love someone of another faith or at the least be weary of them because of the persecution one may have faced in that day, today there is not the same problem, today it seems the Muslims by using this piece of the Quran are only making this a problem. We are all created by God, and I think we are all taught to love all of Gods creations, which by logic would say that we should all love each other. If Islam cannot love other religions just because they do not agree with their own then how can Islam be a religion of peace? Peace = Love, does it not? If this is the case Islam, a religion of peace, is preventing peace for the rest of the world. If this is the road Islam wants to take, than that is the choice of its believers, however its believers should also realize that this mindset will undoubtably have unwanted reprecussions from the other 5 billion people in the world.
 
How about a union that everyone could join? What a radical thought. :?

Why do some need to try to prove there superiority by excluding others? :raging:

If you apply any importance, to any label, other than human, that you place on someone, you ensure non-peaceful coexistence. :skeleton:
 
We should have a trade union of humanity and strike like hell.

Hey, it works for the French.
 
I have heard this so many times and everytime it comes across just as disturbing as the last. It is a reason that I would never become a Muslim or follower of Islam, and is a reason that I look at many Muslims that I dont know with doubt and skepticism. Why not love another man or woman just because they dont share your faith? We do not live in the days of Muhammad, then there would have been reasons to not love someone of another faith or at the least be weary of them because of the persecution one may have faced in that day, today there is not the same problem, today it seems the Muslims by using this piece of the Quran are only making this a problem. We are all created by God, and I think we are all taught to love all of Gods creations, which by logic would say that we should all love each other. If Islam cannot love other religions just because they do not agree with their own then how can Islam be a religion of peace? Peace = Love, does it not? If this is the case Islam, a religion of peace, is preventing peace for the rest of the world. If this is the road Islam wants to take, than that is the choice of its believers, however its believers should also realize that this mindset will undoubtably have unwanted reprecussions from the other 5 billion people in the world.

I am prepared to stick my neck out here and incur the wrath of my fellow Muslims. This is an argument I have repeatedly with other Muslims.

Please read again the verses that Karimeldib posted.

Chapter 5 verses 55-57: Those who establish regular prayer - surely christians and jews establish regular prayer? I do not imagine as a practicing Christian or Jew you would mock other religions (of course you would not agree with them but I doubt you would mock).

Chapter 60 verse 4: "unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone". Of course I can't make an argument with this and I do not agree with your belief that Jesus (pbuh) is the son of God but I imagine as a Christian you think Jesus (pbuh) is a part of God and you are therefore only believeing in God?

I am ashamed that I do not have my Quran on holiday with me to give you an accurate quote so I hope Allah will forgive me for paraphrasing. In the Quran Allah tells us that had He wished He could have made us all one nation and one religion and on the day of judgement He will tell us the difference between us. Allah therefore wanted us to be different nations, colours, religions, etc so why should we mere mortals use this as a means of hatred? When Muslims wish to make the argument that we should not accept each other they will use the same verses from the Quran, as Christians use small parts of the bible and Jews small parts of the Torah to make their argument.

Please believe me that the Quran does teach tolerance when read as a whole and the prophet Mohammad (pbuh) taught tolerance during his time as a prophet. Any religious book can be used by people to make their argument, if they just quote small pieces but Allah intended us to be different and it is my personal belief that when we have to answer for our actions at the end of our time here, how we treated people that are different from ourselves will be a big issue. Only Allah can judge us for our beliefs and actions.

I believe that there is only one God, Allah and that Mohammad (pbuh) was his final prophet. As a muslim I cover my hair and wear a dress that covers all of my body, I never drink alcohol (it would lead me to forget Allah) and I do numerous other things to please Allah. It is my choice and my right to believe this and my duty to defend my religion, as it is your choice and right to believe in Christianity and Brother Karimeldib's right to have his beliefs but my personal opinion is that we can discuss, learn about others beliefs and be tolerant whilst not losing anything of our ourselves or our beliefs.

I truly hope I have not offended anyone, from any religion, with these views but it is a subject I feel so strongly about.
 
I am prepared to stick my neck out here and incur the wrath of my fellow Muslims. This is an argument I have repeatedly with other Muslims.

Please read again the verses that Karimeldib posted.

Chapter 5 verses 55-57: Those who establish regular prayer - surely christians and jews establish regular prayer? I do not imagine as a practicing Christian or Jew you would mock other religions (of course you would not agree with them but I doubt you would mock).

Chapter 60 verse 4: "unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone". Of course I can't make an argument with this and I do not agree with your belief that Jesus (pbuh) is the son of God but I imagine as a Christian you think Jesus (pbuh) is a part of God and you are therefore only believeing in God?

I am ashamed that I do not have my Quran on holiday with me to give you an accurate quote so I hope Allah will forgive me for paraphrasing. In the Quran Allah tells us that had He wished He could have made us all one nation and one religion and on the day of judgement He will tell us the difference between us. Allah therefore wanted us to be different nations, colours, religions, etc so why should we mere mortals use this as a means of hatred? When Muslims wish to make the argument that we should not accept each other they will use the same verses from the Quran, as Christians use small parts of the bible and Jews small parts of the Torah to make their argument.

Please believe me that the Quran does teach tolerance when read as a whole and the prophet Mohammad (pbuh) taught tolerance during his time as a prophet. Any religious book can be used by people to make their argument, if they just quote small pieces but Allah intended us to be different and it is my personal belief that when we have to answer for our actions at the end of our time here, how we treated people that are different from ourselves will be a big issue. Only Allah can judge us for our beliefs and actions.

I believe that there is only one God, Allah and that Mohammad (pbuh) was his final prophet. As a muslim I cover my hair and wear a dress that covers all of my body, I never drink alcohol (it would lead me to forget Allah) and I do numerous other things to please Allah. It is my choice and my right to believe this and my duty to defend my religion, as it is your choice and right to believe in Christianity and Brother Karimeldib's right to have his beliefs but my personal opinion is that we can discuss, learn about others beliefs and be tolerant whilst not losing anything of our ourselves or our beliefs.

I truly hope I have not offended anyone, from any religion, with these views but it is a subject I feel so strongly about.

If only more people could see things this way
 
We must continue to talk nicely with people through sites such as these and maybe one day we will be able to all live in peace together.
 
Thankyou Mariam for this thread, when I read this I actually cried.

I do not have my Quran to hand to put the correct quote but didn't Allah say that had He wished He could have made all people one nation and one religion. Clearly He didn't and on the day of judgement Allah will tell us the difference between us. If I have understood this correctly then who are we (as mere people) to 'judge' people for their nationality, skin colour or faith?

Perhaps a brother or sister could let me know Quranic quote for this passage and let me know if I have understood it correctly.

peace be upon you sister:
Allah the Great and Almighty said:"To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a Law and an Open Way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute"(The Table Spread:48)
 
I have heard this so many times and everytime it comes across just as disturbing as the last. It is a reason that I would never become a Muslim or follower of Islam, and is a reason that I look at many Muslims that I dont know with doubt and skepticism. Why not love another man or woman just because they dont share your faith? We do not live in the days of Muhammad, then there would have been reasons to not love someone of another faith or at the least be weary of them because of the persecution one may have faced in that day, today there is not the same problem, today it seems the Muslims by using this piece of the Quran are only making this a problem. We are all created by God, and I think we are all taught to love all of Gods creations, which by logic would say that we should all love each other. If Islam cannot love other religions just because they do not agree with their own then how can Islam be a religion of peace? Peace = Love, does it not? If this is the case Islam, a religion of peace, is preventing peace for the rest of the world. If this is the road Islam wants to take, than that is the choice of its believers, however its believers should also realize that this mindset will undoubtably have unwanted reprecussions from the other 5 billion people in the world.

truly .. I don't know why your words make me cry.
I am really agree with you .. I feel that our religion give us ALL the solution of the world problems .. but we throw it away.
don't be surprise .. I want to tell you some thing If you want to know exactly what is Islam don't LOOK to us.
If you really try to find the truth .. If you really Love your God and Creator
ask him to lead you to the straight way, and said:" Show me the straight way,The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose is not wrath, and who go not astray."
try to read Quran with your heart and try to understand every word in it.
may God bless you and make from his pious servents .. AMEEN

Mr MTAFFI: maybe this site could help you : http://www.noblequran.info/
Peace.
 
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We must continue to talk nicely with people through sites such as these and maybe one day we will be able to all live in peace together.

:statisfie I hope this happened very soon Insha'allah.
 
peace be upon you sister:
Allah the Great and Almighty said:"To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a Law and an Open Way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute"(The Table Spread:48)

Salaam Alaykoum sister. Thank you for this, I was sure I had read this in the Quran, why do so many Muslims fail to see this?

When I read the Quran the things that I remember are about tolerence and peace, because in my heart I want people to be tolerant and peaceful. Others read the Quran and remember the verses which reflect what is in their hearts. I wonder if it possible to read the Quran without your heart pointing you in one direction or another? Perhaps this is another test by Allah?
 
Wow...a thread that is actually positive and constructive.

I wish more people could adopt this outlook. Just imagine if the world was united against suffering of all kinds. Not much to say, in our hearts most of us know the right path. It isn't about what you call yourself, it is about how you live your life.
 

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