Deploy troops in Iran...!

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You provide the proof refuting it.

This is how hatred begins, people use assumption with no proof to make accusations.

I agree that Bush and Blair lied (intentionally and with full knowledge) and it has led to a bloody conflict. However, Keltoi is right, it would make them much more likely to be much more careful now.

I live in the middle east and everyone there blames a conspiracy between US, UK & Israel for everything, even for someone falling over in the street. I am willing to admit when my government is wrong but I object to wild allegations about conspiracies and my country wanting to start another war. It seems clear to me that Iran is flexing its muscles (as it often does toward the west) which is how this situation arose, US took Iranian guards so Iran took UK navy.

Refuting something cannot by definition be proof of anything.
 
This is how hatred begins, people use assumption with no proof to make accusations.

I agree that Bush and Blair lied (intentionally and with full knowledge) and it has led to a bloody conflict. However, Keltoi is right, it would make them much more likely to be much more careful now.

I live in the middle east and everyone there blames a conspiracy between US, UK & Israel for everything, even for someone falling over in the street. I am willing to admit when my government is wrong but I object to wild allegations about conspiracies and my country wanting to start another war. It seems clear to me that Iran is flexing its muscles (as it often does toward the west) which is how this situation arose, US took Iranian guards so Iran took UK navy.

Refuting something cannot by definition be proof of anything.

Oh looky here we have another jumping on the bandwagon....read all my previous posts to get a better understanding....
 
Conspiracy? Dude how many moons on the planet you reside on....?

Okay, so where is all this oil and the revenue from it? Why aren't American companies setting up shop? Why is the U.S. still buying the vast majority of its oil from Venezuela, Mexico, and Canada?
 
Oh looky here we have another jumping on the bandwagon....read all my previous posts to get a better understanding....

You are so quick to call people ignorant and suggest they get a better understanding but you make wild statements with no proof. If you read my comments properly you will see that I was agreeing with something you were saying but also agreeing with something Keltoi was saying.I also disagree with you both on some points.

As for jumping on the band wagon I am delighted to report that I have my own brain and to date it works quite well. I understand you feel frustrated but surely there is no need to be rude just because someone doesn't agree with you?
 
Okay, so where is all this oil and the revenue from it? Why aren't American companies setting up shop? Why is the U.S. still buying the vast majority of its oil from Venezuela, Mexico, and Canada?

And I know this how? don't believe ANYTHING the UK/US say. WARMONGERS AND BULLIES are the only words reverberant to me
 
And I know this how? don't believe ANYTHING the UK/US say. WARMONGERS AND BULLIES are the only words reverberant to me

The U.S. oil industry isn't nationalized. If you want to see where U.S. companies get their oil simply look it up, it isn't that hard.
 
You are so quick to call people ignorant and suggest they get a better understanding but you make wild statements with no proof. If you read my comments properly you will see that I was agreeing with something you were saying but also agreeing with something Keltoi was saying.I also disagree with you both on some points.

As for jumping on the band wagon I am delighted to report that I have my own brain and to date it works quite well. I understand you feel frustrated but surely there is no need to be rude just because someone doesn't agree with you?

I can agree to disagree yes. I too have my brain, and can see the right and wrong with the situation. Hence me being in the minority. But I've never been one to sway to the majority. Always the truth, be it alone whilst millions maybe on the opposite I care not.

A Sikh will ALWAYS side with the truth.
 
Blair warns Iran of "different phase" By Paul Hughes
51 minutes ago

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's British Prime Minister Tony Blair warned Tehran on Tuesday of a "different phase" if it did not free 15 British military personnel captured in the Gulf four days ago.

The sailors' capture and new U.N. sanctions imposed on Tehran on Saturday over its disputed nuclear program have stoked tensions between the West and Iran and pushed oil prices to a 2007 high.

Russia and the United Arab Emirates on Tuesday urged Iran to comply with U.N. demands that it halt sensitive nuclear work but Tehran says the U.N. resolution is illegal.

Iran, which denies any intention of making atomic weapons, has said it may charge the two boatloads of British sailors and marines with illegally entering its waters in the northern Gulf. Britain insists they were operating in Iraqi waters.

"What we are trying to do ... is to pursue this through the diplomatic channels and make the Iranian government understand these people have to be released and that there is absolutely no justification whatever for holding them," Blair said.

"They have to release them. If not, then this will move into a different phase," he told Britain's GMTV television.

Blair's spokesman said the next step London could take would be to publish proof, in the form of global satellite positioning (GPS) records, that the sailors had not entered Iranian waters.

"We so far haven't made explicit why we know that because we don't want to escalate this," he said.

A government source in London told Reuters British officials were showing Iran data on the sailors' exact position when seized.

Britain has been assured that the sailors are well but has not been given access to them or told where they are being held.

LEAVE DOOR OPEN

British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett, visiting Iran's neighbor Turkey where her counterpart Abdullah Gul voiced support for the sailors' release, said Britain would "continue to leave the door open for a constructive outcome."

Iraq's government and an Iraqi fisherman who witnessed the capture say it took place in Iraqi waters.

Iran captured eight British servicemen in similar circumstances in 2004 and released them after three nights.

Analysts have said the current crisis appeared more complex and would take longer to resolve than three years ago.

"The incident in 2004 was less tense, there were fewer gathering clouds, so they may well be held for longer," said Alex Bigham, of the Foreign Policy Center. "There are probably also internal political battles in Iran over what to do next."

Some hardline groups in Iran suggest the case could be a bargaining chip in its nuclear and other rows with the West, exposing what analysts said were divisions with more moderate voices who want to build bridges abroad, not exacerbate tension.

In Iran, a crowd of hardline students chanting "Death to Britain" gathered on Tuesday on the shoreline close to where the Britons were captured and demanded firm action against the sailors, Iran's semi official Mehr news agency reported.

But the official IRNA news agency suggested in a commentary the issue could still be resolved if London apologized.

In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged Iran to return to negotiations over its nuclear program.

"The door is open ... I hope that a positive reaction (from Iran) will follow," he said.

UAE President Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahayan said his country would not be involved in any military strike on Iran, but urged the Islamic Republic to avoid stoking tensions.

(Additional reporting by David Clarke, Katherine Baldwin and Sophie Walker in London, Fredrik Dahl in Tehran, Zerin Elci in Ankara, Diala Saadeh in Dubai, Dmitry Solovyov in Moscow

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070327/wl_nm/iran_britain_sailors_dc

It seems as though Britain has proof that the soldiers were not in Iranian water. I wonder why Iran wants to cause these problems for itself? It almost seems as if they want a war with the west
 
I don't want to 'argue' about how or why this situation arose but for humanitarian reasons Iran should allow a UK representative to see the captured people.
 
"They have to release them. If not, then this will move into a different phase," he told Britain's GMTV television.

Look, the only resolution in the mind of US/UK politicians is an expansion of the Iraq war into Iran. This entire event was a setup orchestrated by Blair to validate Bush's invasion of Iran. And he'll do it without congressional approval because it appears to be an Iranian ''attack'' against a coalition partner. the The Brits were in Iranian waters on a mission to be captured.
 
A Democracy that is imposing itself on other is not a democracy, What do Leaders of nations who are as self serving as George Bush and Tony (5 houses) Blair know about Democracy?? nothing!! they only know Demonocracy, Impeach them all
 
Look, the only resolution in the mind of US/UK politicians is an expansion of the Iraq war into Iran. This entire event was a setup orchestrated by Blair to validate Bush's invasion of Iran. And he'll do it without congressional approval because it appears to be an Iranian ''attack'' against a coalition partner. the The Brits were in Iranian waters on a mission to be captured.

A setup? How could it be a setup? Did covert CIA and MI5 operatives infiltrate the Revolutionary Guard and stage a kidnapping of British sailors? Your assertion doesn't even make sense. If the British wanted to stage something in order to go to war they would have ordered their soldiers to open fire on the Iranians and stop the kidnapping.
 
A setup? How could it be a setup? Did covert CIA and MI5 operatives infiltrate the Revolutionary Guard and stage a kidnapping of British sailors? Your assertion doesn't even make sense. If the British wanted to stage something in order to go to war they would have ordered their soldiers to open fire on the Iranians and stop the kidnapping.

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A setup? How could it be a setup? Did covert CIA and MI5 operatives infiltrate the Revolutionary Guard and stage a kidnapping of British sailors? Your assertion doesn't even make sense. If the British wanted to stage something in order to go to war they would have ordered their soldiers to open fire on the Iranians and stop the kidnapping.

As you say, complete tosh. If the Iranians suspected that was the case all they had to do was let them go, stating that they were quite within their rights to "arrest" them but are releasing them as a "humanitarian gesture in the interests of peace and goodwill" or some such. They might even have gained respect for that.
 
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