'You decided 2 spill my blood"

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A gun ban would only make sure criminals had firearms with victims who don't have the right to own them. Gun violence has decreased in the U.S., but school violence has increased. That points to a problem in society that goes far beyond gun availability.
 
barakAllah fiki (May Allah bless you)

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I think he wouldn't have been as effective walking around with a knife as he was with a gun... seems only outlaws carry guns...

"The law " to carry guns was made to protect you should the king of England come invading your quarters, not to gun down random civilians..
People should in the very least be given a psyche consult before getting one of those....
What an ugly frightening world we live in!
 
I'm a little bit saddend by society approach on this.
Did this guy have mental problems? Most likely yes.
But it's very cheap and easy to just wrap it up as just that. I think there's more to it then that. Mental problems alone don't make a guy do this. This guy had a motivation. It might not be clear to us, but that doesn't mean he didn't have one. It's like people use mental problems as a sort of magical wand that solves the equation. No, mental problem causes instability, and would explain why he was motivated by stuff that would not fail to motivate ordinary people. The question on our minds should not be, can we establish that he was a nutter, and wrap it all up? The question we should ask is, what was his motivation? What drives a person to this point, where he thinks that this is his only way out?
Oh btw, I'm not commenting on anyone here specific, I didn't even read the replies here. I'm just ranting about what the media and the peopel in my environment make of it.
 
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An article said he was diagnosed with autism. The man that sold him the gun said that since he was a cut, clean, educated-looking college kid, he didn't have any suspicions of him attempting to do something wrong. They had his scripts up, I read one of them and half of the other one. Disturbing.

I think he may have been molested or something as a kid and that scarred him badly amongst other issues. However this is just my own theory from reading his work. Allahu A'lem. May Allah protect us from such people ameen.

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There is no way he could have suffered from Autism... I can go for Asperger's syndrome but autistic people, are severely mentally challenged and unable to make it to college.. who ever said this is probably making an excuse for him...
 
It was his great-aunt who stated he was diagnosed with autism before he left South Korea, I have no way of knowing the validity of the claim. I'm not sure what it has to do with anything, but his great-aunt described him as an "idiot".
 
I can understand, that it is difficult for his family... I am pretty sure people want to crucify them while looking for someone to blame for this senseless tragedy... but autistic he wasn't! their IQ is usually around (IQs from 20-35), that isn't even fit for some basic vocational training let alone a 4 year college!
 
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I can understand, that it is difficult for his family... I am pretty sure people want to crucify them while looking for someone to blame for this senseless tragedy... but autistic he wasn't! their IQ is usually around (IQs from 20-35), that isn't even fit for some basic vocational training let alone a 4 year college!
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Yes, the only the thing I noticed from the videos was a slight speech impediment. Otherwise he seemed as intelligent as any average college student.
 
he has classic Anti-social behavior -- probably most people think of this as someone who is shy an (avoidant type) a watered down version--but they are criminals, if he were younger it would be equivlant of Oppositional Defiant Disorder... just the sort that likes to hurt people and animals... a sick individual, but shouldn't be used as an excuse to justify his criminal behavior... Too late now though.. he broke so many families-- hope he rots in hell!
 
Another one bites the dust.

In this case, another one bit the bullet.
 
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There is no way he could have suffered from Autism... I can go for Asperger's syndrome but autistic people, are severely mentally challenged and unable to make it to college.. who ever said this is probably making an excuse for him...
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Selam aleykum
please don't judge all authistic people alike. Authism is a broad spectrum
Also I wouldn't say they are mentally challanged.
Authistic people are mentally different, the "challenge" lies in trying to fit in with the rest of the world, not in their own minds.

This double standard is very frustrating:
"Oh look, he just solved this mathematical equation with ease, must be because he's smart."

"Oh look, he behaves differently and has a different approach on how he interacts with people, must be because he's mentally challenged. "

As for the shooter...
Allah subhana wa ta'ala knows it and we do not, so we shouldn't speculate.
 
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I am not judging akhi.. I am speaking from my studies... people who appear Autistic but have "normal intelligence" are diagnosed with Aperger syndrome not austism!
http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html

People with Austism might have one truly genuis trait , and the term applied to them is autistic savant (historically described as idiot savant).. I didn't make up those terms.. and you can do any web search to validate the veracity of that... But they are not capable of making it to college... otherwise they wouldn't be named Autistic but something else... This by no mean is meant as an Insult... they are special people, if the term "challenged" seems callous-- my humble apologies!
 
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It said in the article:

Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder that encompasses a broad range of symptoms frequently including impaired social interaction and communication, as well as obsessive interests and behavior. Autism remains a topic of heated debate in the scientific community, where little is understood about its cause.
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I googled it and google said:

Autism is a form of pervasive developmental disorder with an unknown origin. It can range from high functioning to severe in nature. Symptoms are a marked lack of awareness of the feelings of others and little or no social interaction or communications with others. Children with autism are often described as "within themselves" and may seem to avoid affection and love. Many children with autism will not talk, are self-isolating and self-stimulating.
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Autism is a disorder of brain function that appears early in life, generally before the age of three. Children with autism have problems with social interaction, communication, imagination and behavior. Autistic traits persist into adulthood, but vary in severity. Some adults with autism function well, earning college degrees and living independently. Others never develop the skills of daily living, and may be incorrectly diagnosed with a variety of psychiatric illnesses. The cause is unknown.
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Asperger's syndrom is similar to that, I think, isn't it?

I think he may have had some form of one of those two. Allahu a'lem.

fi aman allah
w'salaam
 
Thanks for your reply, isn't aspergers syndrome seen as a form of authism? Anyway, I care little for the defenitions western psychologists come up with, I know who I am and what I can and can't do, and that is sufficient to me. And the truth is, little of this is certain at this point and it's mostly speculation and assumptions.
 
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