Quran Verses - Explanations required.

[Mohsin]

Once the soul hasl left the body, Unlike your thinking, the body is left here (cremated) and will not be ressurected. However the sould never dies. So when we go to God he'll judge us. Anymore on this i'll get back to you later on.

Now, can you tell answer my question on Mahammed stating that hell was over run with women?

There are more women on earth than men. More will end up in hell, as well as more will end up in heaven. Cant remember where I read that though

 

[Ghira]

Once the soul hasl left the body, Unlike your thinking, the body is left here (cremated) and will not be ressurected. However the sould never dies. So when we go to God he'll judge us. Anymore on this i'll get back to you later on.

Now, can you tell answer my question on Mahammed stating that hell was over run with women?

I recently received the following from someone who is earnestly attempting to follow the deen, but did not know how to reply in this regard. Your help would be greatly appreciated. May Allah shower you all with his infinite graces for all your service to the ummah:
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"I came accross this Hadith and was very disheartened:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28
Women tolerates injustices from their husbands during the entire period of their lifetime. 99% of the wives are treated like servants. However, Islam does not give women the right to complain, or to react against the injustice of their husbands, or to show the same bad attitude to the husband as he shows. If a woman does any of this, hell fire is her destiny!!

Please comment."

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

Dear Questioner,

I pray this message finds you in good health and iman.

Hadith literature is a rich and fascinating glimpse into the life of the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace. One of the most amazing aspects of this literature is the fact that many women shared in the transmission and preservation of the Prophet's legacy.

After all, if it weren't for the Prophet's wives, may Allah be well pleased with them, countless facets of the Prophet's life might have been lost to future generations. For those who claim that women had no stake in Islamic history, all I can say is look to the hadith and the phenomenal contributions of women like Aisha, Hafsa, and Umm Salama, may Allah be pleased with them.

You may wonder why I'm saying this. I'm saying this because you have to approach the hadith with some understanding of its context. There is an entire field of studies called Hadith Studies. Scholars, past and present, have devoted their entire lives to memorizing, understanding, classifying, authenticating, tracing, and commenting on the thousands of traditions associated with the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace.

Ordinary students like us have no business taking one hadith and running to the races with it. If we're confused about a hadith, then we should go to an expert and ask him or her what it means. We owe the Messenger, who is the Beloved of Allah, something called husn al-dhann, or the benefit of the doubt. If we see a hadith that looks strange to us, we put the best construction on the matter.

First, we should recognize that we may not have sufficient knowledge of the Arabic language to come to any conclusion on the hadith.

Second, we need to understand that this is one hadith in thousands. Look how many hadith there are thatspeak positively of women, and remindmen to honor women. Foremost of these hadith are the ones that deal with motherhood. For example:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who is more entitled to be treated with the best companionship by me?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man said. "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man further said, "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man asked for the fourth time, "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your father. "

[Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 2]

Third, there are other hadith that indicate a plentitude of women in Paradise. For example:

Muhammad reported that some (persons) stated with a sense of pride and some discussed whether there would be more men in Paradise or more women. It was upon this that Abu Huraira reported that Abu'l Qasim (the Holy Prophet) (may peace be upon him) said: The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky, and every person would have two wives and the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise.

[Muslim, Book 040, Number 6793]

It looks like this was a topic of debate even in the early days of Islam. It's important to also keep in mind that the Qur'an frequently mentions the presence of hoor al-ain, or beautiful virgins, in Paradise. The Qur'an says, "But those who attain to faith and do righteous deeds We shall bring into gardens through which running waters flow, therein to abide beyond the count of time; there shall they have spouses pure: and [thus] We shall bring them unto happiness abounding." [Al-Nisa, 4:57]

This verse is a very clear statement on the spiritual parity between men and women. Both believing men and women are promised a peaceful abode in Paradise with loving spouses.

Once again, there is no indication that women are excluded from Paradise and its rewards.

Fourth, even if we take the hadith at its literal meaning, is it really an issue? Since we're all supposed to be striving for Paradise anyway, we should welcome the hadith as advice on how not to act.

In other words, the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, may have seen certain behavior from the women of his community. Out of love and concern, he warned them that these behaviors would lead to Hell rather than Paradise. This hadith is telling us how serious ingratitude is. And it's a warning to both sexes.

The scholars frequently explain that hadiths like these can apply to both sexes. Of course, there are ungrateful husbands. That goes without saying. And of course many women have suffered at their husbands' hands.

However, this hadith is addressing situations where women are in the wrong. We have to be honest. A lot of women do take their husbands for granted. We should be grateful that the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, warned us of the consequences of such unbecoming behavior.

Last but not least, this hadith is not saying that any woman who complains is going to Hell. This hadith addresses a very specific behavior. Women certainly have the right to voice their grievances.

Isn't there an entire chapter of the Qur'an called al-Mujadilah? This surah is the 58th chapter in the Qur'an and it is devoted to the story of a woman who came to the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, and complained about her husband.

The Prophet did not tell this woman that she was going to Hell. Instead, he listened to her, and Allah Most High revealed verses directly addressing this woman's situation and condemning the husband for his unacceptable behavior.

I pray that Allah Most High helps your friend to find peace in this beautiful way of life that has enriched and inspired the lives of countless women.

And Allah knows best.

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[AvarAllahNoor]

Men take their wives for granted too, yet i see nothing similar in the Quran attacking them. Fas, you've got a quote from the Guru Granth Sahib for the question you asked.

Mohin, more women than men, prove that with a reputable source (non Quranic) Even if their are more women, that means because of this they are subjected to hell?

Also, Fas states Mohammed had a seal on his shoulder, any quotes from Quran or Sayings to back this up, as I don't accept myths or word of mouth on things. Thanks

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

There are more women on earth than men. More will end up in hell, as well as more will end up in heaven. Cant remember where I read that though

lol you can't recall? so that means it's true then eh....

 

[- Qatada -]

Avar, tut tut. I can't believe you can take such cheap shots man. That quote never proved anything:

In the beginning, in the middle and in the end, God exists. Judgement is in His Hands alone. ||15|| (Guru Arjan Dev)

Is that the proof that there is a day of judgement? Is that proof that all of mankind will be together on that day to be judged by God? What are the consequences and how will mankind be judged?


I can't believe it, you can't even bring proof for how your religion is logical, nevermind how its the truth. Yet all you want to keep doing is attacking Islaam without any knowledge.


To all the bros' and sisters reading this - let Avar answer the questions we put forward to him before responding to him. Because it looks like thats his technique of avoiding what we put forward to him.


Look forward to your answers Avar, with proof.

 

[Ghira]

Men take their wives for granted too, yet i see nothing similar in the Quran attacking them. Fas, you've got a quote from the Guru Granth Sahib for the question you asked.

Mohin, more women than men, prove that with a reputable source (non Quranic) Even if their are more women, that means because of this they are subjected to hell?

Also, Fas states Mohammed had a seal on his shoulder, any quotes from Quran or Sayings to back this up, as I don't accept myths or word of mouth on things. Thanks

Read the WHOLE post then make your comments.

The scholars frequently explain that hadiths like these can apply to both sexes. Of course, there are ungrateful husbands. That goes without saying. And of course many women have suffered at their husbands' hands.

However, this hadith is addressing situations where women are in the wrong. We have to be honest. A lot of women do take their husbands for granted. We should be grateful that the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, warned us of the consequences of such unbecoming behavior.

Last but not least, this hadith is not saying that any woman who complains is going to Hell. This hadith addresses a very specific behavior. Women certainly have the right to voice their grievances.

Gratitude is essential in Islam. It is so important that it is linked to belief in God and disbelief. Look at the word Kafir which is what you are. An Arabic word which literally means to cover up. A farmer is also called a Kafir because he covers the seeds that is put on the ground and we get lush, delicious fruits and vegatables from the farm. A person like you is a kafir because he/she is covering up the truth and also the blessings of Allah given to him. You make up dieties, idols and falsely say that a CREATED thing has given you food, shelter, clothing etc... You cover the blessings of your Creator and ungrateful towards them causing you to worship something created. I think this forum should be closed...this person has no intention to understand. You first have to study the BASICS of Islam before you get into these issues. You cannot finish college until you complete the basics like grade school or obtain a GED..And if someone gives you a million right answers you still would not accept the truth or even try to understand. You are lost. Close forum...

 

[mustafajadeed]

Salam Alay Koom:

Sorry for the lateness in this (Life Happens) but this may be the Hadith that there being more women is based on:


Book 001, Number 0142:
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Umar that the Messenger of Allah observed: O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Holy Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense, and you spend some nights (and days) in which you do not offer prayer and in the month of Ramadan (during the days) you do not observe fast, that is a failing in religion. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Abu Tahir with this chain of transmitters.

Book 001, Number 0143:
A hadith like this as narrated by Ibn 'Umar has also been transmitted by Abu Huraira.


It must be remembered that all final decisions on the Day of Judgement are at the
Descretion of The God Himself.


Before that time, everyone has the chance to do what they are supposed to do (Follow the Orders that The God left for mankind and do good works.) here on Earth that is for both men and women.

Also take note: when you think of the Prophet Jacob / Israel people tend to think of the great love of his wife Rachel, Joseph’s mother...

Rachel was wife Number 2 of 4 total: Leah was First wife, who gave birth to 6 of the 12 children/ tribes of Israel Rachel, Zilpah and Bilhah gave birth to 2 children each. So if he had only 1 wife, you would have had “The 6 Tribes of Israel”.

Ma Salam

 

[One Man Army]

Siree Raag, Fifth Mehla:
In the first watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the Lord placed your soul in the womb.
In the tenth month, you were made into a human being, O my merchant friend, and you were given your allotted time to perform good deeds.
You were given this time to perform good deeds, according to your pre-ordained destiny.
God placed you with your mother, father, brothers, sons and wife.
God Himself is the Cause of causes, good and bad-no one has control over these things.
Says Nanak, O mortal, in the first watch of the night, the soul is placed in the womb. ||1||
In the second watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the fullness of youth rises in you like waves.
You do not distinguish between good and evil, O my merchant friend-your mind is intoxicated with ego.
Mortal beings do not distinguish between good and evil, and the road ahead is treacherous.
They never serve the Perfect True Guru, and the cruel tyrant Death stands over their heads.
When the Righteous Judge seizes you and interrogates you, O madman, what answer will you give him then?
Says Nanak, in the second watch of the night, O mortal, the fullness of youth tosses you about like waves in the storm. ||2||
In the third watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the blind and ignorant person gathers poison.
He is entangled in emotional attachment to his wife and sons, O my merchant friend, and deep within him, the waves of greed are rising up.
The waves of greed are rising up within him, and he does not remember God.
He does not join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, and he suffers in terrible pain through countless incarnations.
He has forgotten the Creator, his Lord and Master, and he does not meditate on Him, even for an instant.
Says Nanak, in the third watch of the night, the blind and ignorant person gathers poison. ||3||
In the fourth watch of the night, O my merchant friend, that day is drawing near.
As Gurmukh, remember the Naam, O my merchant friend. It shall be your Friend in the Court of the Lord.
As Gurmukh, remember the Naam, O mortal; in the end, it shall be your only companion.
This emotional attachment to Maya shall not go with you; it is false to fall in love with it.
The entire night of your life has passed away in darkness; but by serving the True Guru, the Divine Light shall dawn within.
Says Nanak, O mortal, in the fourth watch of the night, that day is drawing near! ||4||
Receiving the summons from the Lord of the Universe, O my merchant friend, you must arise and depart with the actions you have committed.
You are not allowed a moment's delay, O my merchant friend; the Messenger of Death seizes you with firm hands.
Receiving the summons, people are seized and dispatched. The self-willed manmukhs are miserable forever.
But those who serve the Perfect True Guru are forever happy in the Court of the Lord.
The body is the field of karma in this age; whatever you plant, you shall harvest.
Says Nanak, the devotees look beautiful in the Court of the Lord; the self-willed manmukhs wander forever in reincarnation. ||5||1||4||


The True Guru is Allah, Vaheguru, God etc.

The manmukh- is the one subjected to following his own mind, victim to his desires. Guru Sahib has used the example of the 4 parts of the night (as known in old indian history) to explain phases of life.

Pauree:
O Nanak, having created the souls, the Lord installed the Righteous Judge of Dharma to read and record their accounts.
There, only the Truth is judged true; the sinners are picked out and separated.
The false find no place there, and they go to hell with their faces blackened.
Those who are imbued with Your Name win, while the cheaters lose.
The Lord installed the Righteous Judge of Dharma to read and record the accounts. ||2||

i have previously posted about sikhi beliefs after death. Hell is the passing phase between cycles after this life after judgment has occured. Dharam raaj- the judge God has put into place will be the one who sentences everyone according to their deeds

As are the deeds done, so is the reputation one acquires.
So do not play such a game, which will bring you to ruin at the Court of the Lord.
The accounts of the educated and the illiterate shall be judged in the world hereafter.
One who stubbornly follows his own mind (manmukh) shall suffer in the world hereafter. ||12||

The Lord's Name does not abide within their hearts - their mothers should have been sterile.
These bodies wander around, forlorn and abandoned, without the Name; their lives waste away, and they die, crying out in pain. ||1||
O my mind, chant the Name of the Lord, the Lord within you.
The Merciful Lord God, Har, Har, has showered me with His Mercy; the Guru has imparted spiritual wisdom to me, and my mind has been instructed. ||Pause||
In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Kirtan of the Lord's Praise brings the most noble and exalted status; the Lord is found through the True Guru.
I am a sacrifice to my True Guru, who has revealed the Lord's hidden Name to me. ||2||
By great good fortune, I obtained the Blessed Vision of the Darshan of the Holy; it removes all stains of sin.
I have found the True Guru, the great, all-knowing King; He has shared with me the many Glorious Virtues of the Lord. ||3||
Those, unto whom the Lord, the Life of the world, has shown Mercy, enshrine Him within their hearts, and cherish Him in their minds.
The Righteous Judge of Dharma, in the Court of the Lord, has torn up my papers; servant Nanak's account has been settled. ||4||5||


The Gurmukhs (the follower of God) account is torn up. he is not victim to sentence of dharam raaj.

He describes us as merchants as we are here to do trade with good and bad deeds:

Gauree Chaytee, First Mehla:
With your nectar-like body, you live in comfort, but this world is just a passing drama.
You practice greed, avarice and great falsehood, and you carry such a heavy burden.
O body, I have seen you blowing away like dust on the earth. ||1||
Listen - listen to my advice!
Only the good deeds which you have done shall remain with you, O my soul. This opportunity shall not come again! ||1||Pause||
I say to you, O my body: listen to my advice!
You slander, and then praise others; you indulge in lies and gossip.
You gaze upon the wives of others, O my soul; you steal and commit evil deeds.
But when the swan departs, you shall remain behind, like an abandoned woman. ||2||
O body, you are living in a dream! What good deeds have you done?
When I stole something by deception, then my mind was pleased.
I have no honor in this world, and I shall find no shelter in the world hereafter. My life has been lost, wasted in vain! ||3||
I am totally miserable! O Baba Nanak, no one cares for me at all! ||1||Pause||
Turkish horses, gold, silver and loads of gorgeous clothes
- none of these shall go with you, O Nanak. They are lost and left behind, you fool!
I have tasted all the sugar candy and sweets, but Your Name alone is Ambrosial Nectar. ||4||
Digging deep foundations, the walls are constructed, but in the end, the buildings return to heaps of dust.
People gather and hoard their possessions, and give nothing to anyone else - the poor fools think that everything is theirs.
Riches do not remain with anyone - not even the golden palaces of Sri Lanka. ||5||
Listen, you foolish and ignorant mind
- only His Will prevails. ||1||Pause||
My Banker is the Great Lord and Master. I am only His petty merchant.
This soul and body all are His. He Himself kills, and brings back to life. ||6||1||13||


described as a abandoned women, as Guru Sahib describes the relationship between humans and God should be as if we are the females, and God is the Husband. just as a wife loves, continuously is in thought of her husband, etc so should we be with God

 

[Kashnowe]

hello all. i am wondering if there is anywhere in the quran or hadith that speaks about incest, homoesxuality, sodomy, and petophilia.

in islam does a husband have to consumte a marriage in order for it to be valid?

i hope my questions don't creep anyone out :-[ :nervous:

 

[- Qatada -]

hello all. i am wondering if there is anywhere in the quran or hadith that speaks about incest, homoesxuality, sodomy, and petophilia.

Answered here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/739479-post498.html

in islam does a husband have to consumte a marriage in order for it to be valid?

The marriage is valid once the contract [nikah] has been done, however once the marriage is consumated - it becomes the husbands duty to support the wife, provide for her, give her shelter etc. Before this it is her father's/brothers/guardians responsibility.

i hope my questions don't creep anyone out :-[ :nervous:

It's okay, they're not creepy at all.



Regards.

 

[lilah]

Yes I realise all this. Seems bizzare. Same with Soloman and David, having so many wives would NOT be the way of any Prophet. Something I can't get my head around. The Messenger of Allah would only have one f ocus, that would be to relay the Message of our Master not indulge in numerous wives. (as these are sins of the flesh) Something as I keep saying is not likely of a Prophet!

It doesn't matter what you think is likely of a prophet...it's what God made lawful on them. I find it ironic how you denounce the teachings of the prophets of God based on a characteristic that you disagree with....regardless of wether or not God made such an action lawful

Yes, the prophets had relations WITH THEIR WIVES....if a man wishes to have relations with his wife is that a sin? oh i forgot, society made marital sex a dirty thing....

The prophet muhammed (SAW) relations w/his wives were example to us on modern day muslims on how to treat there wife/wives. In all hadiths, the prophet's wives never once uttered an ill word against him....and in all hadiths, the prophet consistently treated all his wives with more justice, love and compassion. If more men treated their wife/wives in the way of the prophet treated his, i bet you divorce rates would plummet.

 

[lilah]

Men take their wives for granted too, yet i see nothing similar in the Quran attacking them. Fas, you've got a quote from the Guru Granth Sahib for the question you asked.

Mohin, more women than men, prove that with a reputable source (non Quranic) Even if their are more women, that means because of this they are subjected to hell?

Also, Fas states Mohammed had a seal on his shoulder, any quotes from Quran or Sayings to back this up, as I don't accept myths or word of mouth on things. Thanks

you should "read" the quran thoroughly...


you are also missing a hadith that states that there are more women in paradise than there are men.

Muslim, Book 040, Number 6793
Muhammad reported that some (persons) stated with a sense of pride and some discussed whether there would be more men in Paradise or more women. It was upon this that Abu Huraira reported that Abu'l Qasim (the Holy Prophet) (may peace be upon him) said: The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky, and every person would have two wives and the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise.Muhammad reported that some (persons) stated with a sense of pride and some discussed whether there would be more men in Paradise or more women. It was upon this that Abu Huraira reported that Abu'l Qasim (the Holy Prophet) (may peace be upon him) said: The (members) of the first group to get into Paradise would have their faces as bright as full moon during the night, and the next to this group would have their faces as bright as the shining stars in the sky, and every person would have two wives and the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise.

on ratio, based on the hadith, there will be 2 women for ever 1 man in paradise...

you are focusing on a trivial issue by implying that there is an 'unfairness' that there is more women than men in hellfire...the lesson we should take from the hadith is the behaviors that can lead a woman to hellfire...as opposed to the behaviors that she can be rewarded in Paradise. Some women are known to gossip, backbite, and so on...other women don't.

As for men, the Quran is filled with warnings of the fires of hell for them...but you read the Quran, so you should know.

 

[One Man Army]

hold up, is it predestined whos going to get into paradise n who isnt then? seeing as there are figures and ratios of the amount of people going to be there. does that mean that it is already set who will be there, and who wont?

 

[lilah]

hold up, is it predestined whos going to get into paradise n who isnt then? seeing as there are figures and ratios of the amount of people going to be there. does that mean that it is already set who will be there, and who wont?

Sahih Muslim Book 33 The Book of Destiny
6390
Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) who is the most truthful (of the human beings) and his being truthful (is a fact) said: Verily your creation is on this wise. The constituents of one of you are collected for forty days in his mother's womb in the form of blood, after which it becomes a clot of blood in another period of forty days. Then it becomes a lump of flesh and forty days later Allah sends His angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes down his livelihood, his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune. By Him, besides Whom there is no god, that one amongst you acts like the people deserving Paradise until between him and Paradise there remains but the distance of a cubit, when suddenly the writing of destiny overcomes him and he begins to act like the denizens of Hell and thus enters Hell, and another one acts in the way of the denizens of Hell, until there remains between him and Hell a distance of a cubit that the writing of destiny overcomes him and then he begins to act like the people of Paradise and enters Paradise.

The thing is that nobody knows what is destined for him/her except the Almighty.

And while it is told there are more women than men in paradise and hell fire, nobody said who amoung them where in either place....

 

[One Man Army]

yeh however, it is then predestined who will get into paradise, and who wont? as the fact that it is stated that there will be more women in hell n heaven, therefore, everyone must have destiny written whether they will get into paradise or not, is this correct?

 

[lilah]

yeh however, it is then predestined who will get into paradise, and who wont? as the fact that it is stated that there will be more women in hell n heaven, therefore, everyone must have destiny written whether they will get into paradise or not, is this correct?

it is a part of faith to believe in divine destiny, ie everything had been written before the creation of the world.

The first thing Allah (SWT) created was water and then His Throne. After that Allah (SWT) created the pen. He ordered the Pen to write. The Pen wrote, by the Will of Allah. It wrote what was and what will be in this life until its end. Fifty thousand (50,000) years after this event, Allah created the heavens and Earth. No person is born and no drop of water falls except in accordance to what was written.

However, just because something is destined to happen doesn't negate the fact that you have free will, our concept of time past, present, and future is skewed because of our time on earth. For example, is it by choice that you may or may not be muslim? did you choose your career choice? Do you place your own order when going to a restaurant?

Things are predestined, but your actions are your own.... your sins, and good deeds are yours.

of course, Allah (SWT) knows best,

 

[One Man Army]

so if all d women in d wrld started sinning, the prophesy of being more women then men in paradise would be proved false, if free will in the sense you have described exists?

 

[lilah]

so if all d women in d wrld started sinning, the prophesy of being more women then men in paradise would be proved false, if free will in the sense you have described exists?

What? ROFL ....

A person is born with free will, but Allah (SWT) has knowledge before hand of what will occur. The events were written, but they hadn't occured yet.

Humans 'feel' time in the sense that there is past, present, and future. But Time is relative.

you're question makes absolutely no sense what so ever.....

 

[lilah]

so if all d women in d wrld started sinning, the prophesy of being more women then men in paradise would be proved false, if free will in the sense you have described exists?

also, what you are doing putting up a meaningless arguement/theory. Let me explain, what you are trying to say is if all of the women were to sin, they would go to hell fire, and that would refute the prophesy..... the theory is not sound because you cannot just arbitrarily say that everybody that sins will go to hellfire. The final determination/judge of who goes to heaven/hell is only Allah (SWT). If you sin, you have an opportunity to repent and ask for forgiveness...but it is only through the mercy of Allah (swt) that you may be granted paradise.

may Allah(swt) give you guidance and help you sort out the confusion.

 

[One Man Army]

im not making no argument, and im sorry if u feel i am. im just asking something thats got me thinkin after reading into this topic. It is stated that there will be more women then men in paradise. hence, therefore Allah must create some destiny in who will get into paradise, and who wont. whether we know it or not is irrelevent. what my question is, which i dnt seem to get answered from you posts is, if Allah has stated there will be more women, that means it must be prophesised (or how eva u spel it) which individual will get into paradise and who wont. this is the part that is confusing me. what does ROFL mean? what part of my question makes no sense? its writen in plain english. you said Allah has knowledge of what will occur, therefore it is already destined who will achieve 'paradise' and who will not! is this correct?