Iraqi girl's stoning shown on Internet

[Mawaddah]

It was one of the pagan religions common among the Pagan Arabs prior to Muhammad(PBUH) showing Islam to them. Some of the people did not accept the truth and still live the old Pagan religion. This is the same religion that Islam ended in Saudi Arabia, but some pockets of it still exist in Iraq.

Sadly because people see them as Arabs they assumed they are Muslim. Jews and Christians are closer to Islam than those people are.

I just noticed the way I said that Jews and Christians are closer, can be misunderstood by some people. Jews and Christians worship the same God(swt) Muslims do the Yezidi are polytheistic.

Jazakallah Khair for explaining that Uncle. I had read about them but it was some time ago (it was in a National Geographic magazine I think) but I had already forgotten alot about them.

May Allah guide these people Ameen.

 

[.:Umniyah:.]

Oh, well I read the angel bit I just thoughj it was some divient sect.

Wow, that's scary, anyhow, I dont get one thing, why do people think it's Islam?

Because now a days anything someone can explain as brutal, unhuman like, distrubing, bad, horrible etc etc....they only think of Islam. So if religion came up they'll easly say Islam, its the thing to do now a days.

 

[Woodrow]

I did a little more hunting about the Yezidi The modern ones have incorporated some parts of many religions.

History/Founder: Yezidis are a Kurdish sect, named after their supposed founder Yezid, the Umayyad Caliph. The Yezidi revere the Prophet Mohammed and the Sufi mystic Adi Musafir, a descendent of the Umayyad Caliphs (Kalifs). Adi is credited with writing many of the Yezidi Holy texts and is possibly the originator of the faith. Islamic writings mention the religion as early as the fourteenth century, but some scholars link them to Mithraism, Zoroastrianism, and even ancient Iraqi Buzzard worshippers. Yezidism is an enigma that has confounded scholars and incited debate for some time. The influence of Islam on the religion is heavy and obscures other aspects. Tantalizing clues point in every direction- rituals involving fire and prayers recited in the direction of the sun are distinctly Zoroastrian; taboos against eating lettuce and beans, baptisms, and the belief that Christ is a prophet hint at Manicheism. Other unusual aspects of Yezidi belief are the reverence of an immortal elemental spirit named Khidir; temple decorations in Lalish are distinctly Mithraic.

Current leader/governing body: Rulership is hereditary, and comes through the seven priestly lineages, hereditary Kurdish rulers.
Number of Adherents: About sixty-thousand in Iraq and Syria, 200,000 total worldwide.

Clergy: Yezidi clegy are patterned after the Islamic Hierarchy of Sheiks and Mullas. Pirs (priests) and Kawals (traveling preachers), kocheks, (ecstatics and soothsayers), and Murids (laymen who give financial support).

Requirements to join: Historically, Yezidis were not reluctant to proselytize, and converted many Christians, Jews, and Muslims over the years. In recent times, however, Arabic governments have made concerted efforts to ostracize the Yezidis (including making them a seperate group from their fellow Kurds), and their numbers are dwindling. One must now be born Yezidi, and converts are not accepted.
Church/temple: The Khalwa, a simple, sparsely furnished temple for prayers and gatherings.

Scripture: There is no specific Yezidi Holy text, but important information about Yezidi practices is contained in the Mes'haf i Resh, or "black book" attributed to Adi's son, and the Jilwa, or "book of revelation," a brief homily attributed to Adi. Neither book is considered sacred, however- Yezidi tradition is strictly oral, and consists of prayers, songs, and hymns in the Kurdish language.

Required observances, dietary restrictions: Yezidi religion places taboos on the eating of fish or the meat of gazelles; the wearing of blue clothing is forbidden.
Basic teachings and Beliefs of Yezidism: Yezidi beliefs are a complicated mixture of Islamic and Zoroastrian beliefs, with Gnostic, Jewish, and Shamanistic elements. Worship centers around Angels (Malek is from the Arabic word for 'angel'), the most important of which is named Melek Taus, or the "Peacock Angel," also known as Lucifer. Lucifer plays a different role in Yezidism, where he is considered the chief Archangel, and the creator of the material world. In Yezidi belief, Lucifer is not a fallen angel, or the enemy of God. In Yezidi cosmology, the universal Spirit (the Supreme deity) created a pearl, which became broken after a period of forty thousand years. Melek, or Lucifer, used the remains of the pearl to create the material world. After this creation, the Spirit created the remaining Angels. Yezidi theology claims that Lucifer was forgiven for his transgressions, and those who revere him are the spiritual elect of humanity. They are forbidden from referring to him as Satan.

The Yezidi believe that time is divided into six Epochs, and each Epoch has an Avatar, or Archangel. During the first Epoch, the material world and humankind were created. The Yezidi story of the creation of man follows the Judeo-Christian Adam and Eve, except that Satan is portrayed as a wise teacher rather than a temptor.

Holidays: The most important Yezidi Feast day is that of Jam, when the various Yezidi groups converge on Lalish, the burial place of Adi. During the Jam, the Peacock icon, representing Malek Taus, is presented to the worshippers during a seven day celebration. It coincides with an ancient Zoroastrian feast day, one of many coincidences that lead some scholars to make a connection between the two religions. Other festivals celebrated are NoRuz, the Zoroastrian New Year, marking the beginning of the astrological year, and other holidays derived from Zoroastrianism and Mithraism.

Symbols: The prevailing symbol is the Peacock, in particular the bronze icons central to Yezidi worship. The peacock is the symbol of Malek Taus.

For more information on this and other symbols, please see Religious symbols.

Myths and misconceptions: The Yezidi have long been accused of "Devil worship" due to misunderstandings of their religious doctrine. In the Yezidi religion, Lucifer is a beneficient deity, long since reconciled with the Creator.

Source: http://altreligion.about.com/library/faqs/bl_yezidism.htm

apparantly they do use some Islamic terminology this probably leads to even more confusion. Although their overall belief system is like that of the ancient pagans. Just updated language.

this is more of what I am thinking in terms of.

since the turn of the last century, travelers have brought back sinister tales of pagan natives performing dark rites paying homage to the Devil. From Pilgrimage to Lalish and Nineveh and its Remains to The Satanic Rituals, western writers have contributed to the mythical impression of shamagh-bedecked heathens gathered around bonfires, adoring a brass sanjak. The most notorious are the Yezidi, a Kurdish subgroup in northern Iraq, although there are strong parallels with the Ahl-i Haqq or Yarsani of Iran (who include the Shaitan-parastiyyan, Satan-worshippers) and the 'Alevis (or 'Alawis) of Syria, Turkey and Kurdistan. These three groups make up Yardanism, an angelick cult that is various parts Sufism, crypto-Zoroastrianism, and pre-Islamic indigenous belief.

The problem with the myth is that it contains more Hollywood than history. In their haste to fashion a convenient gloss with which to categorize the adherents, these accounts have created an inaccurate picture of a complex and fascinating metaphysical system. Indeed, the basis for Yezidi studies for the past hundred years - the "holy books" Kitab al Jilwah and >Meshaf Resh - inspire amusement or shock when assessed by modern Yezidi religious leaders. Probably created by a non-practicioner familiar with the fundamental symbols and phrases of the sect, these texts have been convincingly debunked in the last decade. Anton LaVey's fanciful chapter on a Yezidi homage to Satan has been acknowledged with a terse characterization of "stupid and wrong informations (sic)" by modern adherents and as a "put on" by the leading scholar of the religion. [5]

In the end, we are left with another "Order of Assassins": a crypto-culture that owes its existence in the minds of the "educated" to deliberate misinformation, Christian or Muslim fundamentalist propaganda and inflammatory archetypal legerdemain. The truth about the Yardanists is that they have a rich heritage worth studying on their own individual merits and interrelated metaphysical paradigms that are far more robust and intricate than even present-day occultists and magicians have explored - of either the left or right hand path.

The central historical figure associated with the Yezidi is their patron saint, Shaykh 'Adi. For much of the early Yezidi studies he remained unidentified and some considered him a legend or made various attempts to tie the myth to one or another historical personage. A French political officer in northern Iraq around the turn of the century was able to correlate the Yezidi saint to the Sufi 'Adi ibn Musafir, a well-known Muslim who had been researched in other circles and about whom much was known. The fact that he was a Sufi explains a number of interesting features in Yezidi spirituality.

Although Meshaf Resh (the "Black Book") is probably a spurious attempt to collate their belief system, it does not mean there are no textual transmissions among the Yezidi. They have a collection of qewls, or hymns, which set forth their tenets in some detail. An intriguing note is that Sufism possesses a similar body of recitatory lore in Urdu called qawwals. Authenticated by Kreyenbroek, who translated them from Kurdish, these verses lay out the structure and process of Yezidi practice and cathexis.

Source:

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id1340/pg1/

 

[NobleMuslimUK]

Its so amazing that she didnt scream or fight back, maybe Allah SWT showed her the garden that awaits her. Even in that state she was just trying to hide her shame.

Allah SWT knows best

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I agree. Ameen to the Du'a

 

[mohammed farah]

I've just seen the video...............they are so heartless:raging: :raging: ......they finish her of by throwing a stone the size of a football on her face

 

[AzizMostafa]

Reminds me of a story that took place in the time of the US-backed ex-Shah of Iran:
A non-Muslim fell in love with a muslim girl. So she told him to ask her hands from father.
The boy did and the girl's father welcomed him and asked nothing but to get circumcised.

When the boy rejected, the father said:
"You are not willing to get rid of that additional fold of skin?"
How do you want me to get a part off the nearest of my kin?"
___________________
Peace+Flowers

 

[.:Umniyah:.]

I've just seen the video...............they are so heartless:raging: :raging: ......they finish her of by throwing a stone the size of a football on her face

From where did you see it?

 

[.:Umniyah:.]

:enough!: aoothobillah min dhalik. SubhanAllah, The evil of this creation. The extremes that people have followed. These 'honour' killings have always been a thing of deep hate and disgust to me. May Allah save us all from any such things Ameen.

How flithy they are to have her half naked in the middle of the street, no adab SubhanAllah. May Allah give them what they deserve Ameen.

 

[Philosopher]

Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan are the land of savages. It's a shame they are so influential in the Muslim world.

 

[Muezzin]

:enough!: aoothobillah min dhalik. SubhanAllah, The evil of this creation. The extremes that people have followed. These 'honour' killings have always been a thing of deep hate and disgust to me. May Allah save us all from any such things Ameen.

Ameen.

There's no honour in killing teenage girls or boys because they've allegedly brought shame on the family.

 

[AzizMostafa]

> Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan are the land of savages.
> It's a shame they are so influential in the Muslim world.

Absolutely true!!
> Iraq is the land of savages committed against the grand-daughter of Prophet Mohammed
Zaynab binti Ali bn AbiTalib who was taken in chains in companion with other ladies to
Yazid bin Mo'awiya in Damascus after the slaughtering of her brother Imam Hosyan bin Ali
and 72 of his companions + brother Al-Abbas at Karbala on the of 10th of Muharram 50+A.H.

> Iran is a so influential in the Muslim world for 2 because it is highlighting those savages
and the US+Israel old+new plots against Islam+Muslims of every color+race.

> Some Muslims were influenced by Taliban of Afghanistan as they were confused by Saddam.
Everybody knows: Both were backed by the Americans to counter the Islamic Revolution in Iran.
______________
Peace + Flowers

 

[islamirama]

Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan are the land of savages. It's a shame they are so influential in the Muslim world.

Saudi is a land of savages, dumb arabs who would burry their infants if they were girls.

It is very ignorant to make such claims about a nation like that. what happend in the past does not do justice to the people of today. Iran and Iraq are lands of Islam where YOUR brothers and sisters in Islam reside. US is the land of savages that attack other nations cuz of its own greedy national interests. Did you know most followers of mahdi will migrate from Iraq to join him?

 

[NobleMuslimUK]

Saudi is a land of savages, dumb arabs who would burry their infants if they were girls.

It is very ignorant to make such claims about a nation like that. what happend in the past does not do justice to the people of today. Iran and Iraq are lands of Islam where YOUR brothers and sisters in Islam reside. US is the land of savages that attack other nations cuz of its own greedy national interests. Did you know most followers of mahdi will migrate from Iraq to join him?

I also found that comment offensive about Iraq, and Afghanistan being land of savages, these are the lands where the bravest mujahideen are resisting foreign occupation.

 

[islamirama]

I also found that comment offensive about Iraq, and Afghanistan being land of savages, these are the lands where the bravest mujahideen are resisting foreign occupation.

i've noticed a few members here are very ignorant about other nations, politics and Muslims.

A few hadith to keep in mind for such people...

"If you want to count the faults of anyone else, count your own faults instead."

“Give food to others and speak good.”

“Control your tongue, let your house be enough for you, and weep for your sins.”

“The most beloved deed to Allaah is making a Muslim happy.”

"Let he who truly believes in Allah and the Last Day speak good or be silent."

"I asked the Messenger of God

: Who is the best Muslim? The Messenger of God

replied, "He is the one from whom Muslims are safe from the evil of his tongue and hands." (Muslim)

[SIZE=-1] "O you who believe. Let not some men laugh at others, it may be the that they are better than you. Nor let some women laugh at others it may be that they are better than you. Nor abuse each other , nor be sarcastic to each other by using offensive nicknames..." (Ch49v11)[/SIZE]

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


Let's not stir up any more fitnah insha Allaah, we have enough trials as it is.


Allaah's Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “This community of mine is a community blessed with mercy. It is not punished in the Hereafter. Instead, it is punished in this world with strife, instability, and bloodshed.” [Musnad Ahmad, Sunan Abî Dâwûd, and Mustadrak al-Hâkim] It is an authentic hadîth. It indicates that Allah has shown mercy on the Islamic community and that its punishment will be in this world instead of the Hereafter.

 

[.:Umniyah:.]

Saudi is a land of savages, dumb arabs who would burry their infants if they were girls.

It is very ignorant to make such claims about a nation like that. what happend in the past does not do justice to the people of today. Iran and Iraq are lands of Islam where YOUR brothers and sisters in Islam reside. US is the land of savages that attack other nations cuz of its own greedy national interests. Did you know most followers of mahdi will migrate from Iraq to join him?

okay if he cant say anything about iraq and iran, so then how could you say anything abut Saudi? where YOUR brothers and sisters IN ISLAM reside. and where the MOST Ulemah of this deen reside aswell. And whats to come in the future, doesnt repesent the present. Alot can change now to then. But as for now iraq is wayyyyy out of line and they kill alot of people for silly reasons. And its no wonder Iraq, Iran and afghan are going thru the most trials and tribulations.

And Islamirama how does whats in bold^ not offend you aswell? how does that not fall under

"I asked the Messenger of God : Who is the best Muslim? The Messenger of God replied, "He is the one from whom Muslims are safe from the evil of his tongue and hands." (Muslim)

He just called a bunch of possible Muslims 'stupid arabs'. And shall i remind you of the hadeeth in which Umar Bin Al Khattab told the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa salam about how in the days of jahiliyyah he buried his daughter alive , and then the Prophet weeped for that girl until his beard was soaking wet.
And was not Umar Bin Al Khattab amongst the best of the sahaabah? Did the Prophet call him a 'stupid arab' becuz of this? I think not. and lets not forget what LAND the two holy cities are in. and lets not forget where the ka'bah stands. and lets not forget the land in which Allah says woe to the one who intends evil it the SACRED! city . and lets not forget the land in which the dijjal will not be able to enter.

And Allahu 3lim.

 

[islamirama]

okay if he cant say anything about iraq and iran, so then how could you say anything abut Saudi? where YOUR brothers and sisters IN ISLAM reside. and where the MOST Ulemah of this deen reside aswell. And whats to come in the future, doesnt repesent the present. Alot can change now to then. But as for now iraq is wayyyyy out of line and they kill alot of people for silly reasons. And its no wonder Iraq, Iran and afghan are going thru the most trials and tribulations.

And Allahu 3lim.

I mentioned saudi to prove that it too had an ugly history and past, which is why its called the jahalliyah days. As for being out of line, on what basis are you saying that and for crime are you accusing them of? if you are talking about shia/sunni fights right now then you got lot to learn of the reality. As for the tribulations, the prophet (saws) said tribulations will start from the East and spread from there. What fault is it of theirs that kuffars went there to take over their lands, rape their women and steal their oil, and hypocrite muslims around the world sit quitely with out a backbone to stand up. Why are you condoning the injustice against your brothers and sisters?

 

[.:Umniyah:.]

I mentioned saudi to prove that it too had an ugly history and past, which is why its called the jahalliyah days. As for being out of line, on what basis are you saying that and for crime are you accusing them of? if you are talking about shia/sunni fights right now then you got lot to learn of the reality. As for the tribulations, the prophet (saws) said tribulations will start from the East and spread from there. What fault is it of theirs that kuffars went there to take over their lands, rape their women and steal their oil, and hypocrite muslims around the world sit quitely with out a backbone to stand up. Why are you condoning the injustice against your brothers and sisters?

Why am i doing what? youve gotta be kidding me. I dont condone anything! And Allah is not an injust God. Its very funny to me how iraq boarders Saudi Arabi yet you dont see Any us soliders trying to take anything from them, nor are they killin their women and blah blah. You get what your hands put forth. Is it not shocking how i can live in america Muslim niqaabi and all and be free. and US soliders dont even blink twice at me. When they go waaaay over the ocean to fight agaisnt 'muslims'? i think not. and jahilyyah days just means days of ignorance ,which is simply the time before Islam came. and so what cuz saudi had a bad past. Look at the benefit this country strives to the muslims now. Printing Qurans , Islamic universities , how many prince sponsors Muslims to go to hajj, and come to learn in their universities for free? I dont know whats wrong with people and their issues agaisnt saudi arabia , because Saudi does more than ANY of its 'neighbours' near or far.

I dont hear Allah speaking of no iraq and iran in the Quran, but yet "The Scared Cities' is all over the place.

But anyways i could careless about all this. So whatever you reply with is lovely because i dont plan on replying to anything else. from you or anyone else who thinks like you.

 

[Muezzin]

Dudes, how about we get back to the topic now? Otherwise I'll have to lock the thread.

And everytime someone locks a thread, a fairy dies.

So I heard.