Crackdown in Iran over dress codes

[tomtomsmom]

Sorry to sound foolish..........but what exactly is a "western style" hair cut???

 

[aamirsaab]

the prophet and his companions said dont immitate the unbelievers, so therefore banning western hair styles and attire is very much in line with the prophet Muhammad's teaching. and when he said dont immitate the unbelievers.

I believe the concept of that hadith is to not forget your roots and at the same time remember that you are different. (I would go into detail but it is for another thread)

Sorry to sound foolish..........but what exactly is a "western style" hair cut???

I believe in this case, 'western hair style ' is refering to how we say innapropriate, over the top. Again, this is a topic in and of itself so I will not go into detail.

 

[rania2820]

I am curious. Doesn't this crackdown contradict with the following ayah (verse) from the Qur'an (2:256)?

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[]and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

Is the government really acting in an Islamic manner here?


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actually verses 2:256 is referring to that non-muslims don't have to accept islam. but Muslims can be forced to do Islamic rules.this is halaah.what is the point of being Muslims if you don't want to follow the rules?

honestly i have no sympathy for these women. they are supposed to wear hijab. they should be wearing hijab without the goverment telling them to wear it.
no wonder the Muslim ummah is in the condition it is now.

May Allah help us all. Ameen!

 

[islamirama]

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[islamirama]

Sorry to sound foolish..........but what exactly is a "western style" hair cut???

i would say any style is quite apparent in the society as to who it reminds them of. If the first thing that comes to my mind is westerners when looking at you then you are imitating to be like one of them.

I give this country 2 :thumbs_up for all of this. Prophet *S* said do not imitate the kuffars and those who do is one of them, and yet that's all we see muslims of today doing. There was a time when kuffars were imitating the muslims to look like us, my how times have changed.

 

[doodlebug]

actually verses 2:256 is referring to that non-muslims don't have to accept islam. but Muslims can be forced to do Islamic rules.this is halaah.what is the point of being Muslims if you don't want to follow the rules?

honestly i have no sympathy for these women. they are supposed to wear hijab. they should be wearing hijab without the goverment telling them to wear it.
no wonder the Muslim ummah is in the condition it is now.

May Allah help us all. Ameen!

But are the officers discerning who is and who is not muslim when they are taking the women into custody for having hair coming out from under their scarves?

Not all women in Iran are muslim and yet all women are required to wear the scarf. These women are not required to wear it so why should they have to wear it as strictly as the muslim women wear it?

 

[doodlebug]

your mixing 2 things, no compulsion in religion means we cant force someone to be muslim and believe in Allah, but they will follow the law of sharia, its like saying carrying out sharia punishment is contradicting that passage, for instance the punishment of adultery, if you commit it in an Islamic state, you get stoned, thats the ruling and law, it does not contradict this passage at all.

like in the west, they say you have freedom to do what you want etc, but if you kill someone your gonna get punished! does that contradict freedom? nop. there are rules and laws which you must follow.

You're comparing adultery to a woman who didn't wrap her scarf properly?:?

I agree that we should follow sharia when in an Islamic country, but to what extent and where does one draw the line? Will they next start beating people who do not say their five prayers/day? Will they imprison those that they find sneaking a bite to eat during Ramadan?

Obviously murder, theft, etc. should be cracked down hard on by the police, but seriously.........going around checking women to see if a speck of hair is coming out of her hijab???:rollseyes

 

[Cognescenti]

Regarding the benevolent treatment of minorities in Muslim countries....can someone explain to me why the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul doesnt have a cross in it anymore? Was that an interior decorating decision?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia

 

[AzizMostafa]

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Does on that rotate your goal and role?
Let’s go to Poll
And hang it up the pole!

 

[rania2820]

But are the officers discerning who is and who is not muslim when they are taking the women into custody for having hair coming out from under their scarves?

Not all women in Iran are muslim and yet all women are required to wear the scarf. These women are not required to wear it so why should they have to wear it as strictly as the muslim women wear it?

well making someone wear a headscarf is the dress code in Iran.i normally don't agree on many of the things Iran does but i do however agree with them on the hijab issue. how hard is it to put a headscarf on your head.

and as for the non-muslim women who don't like wearing headscarf.i say the same thing to them i say to the women who complain about the headscarf in Saudi "if you don't like then get out"

 

[siFilam]

In The Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful

:salamext:
and greetings

Regarding the benevolent treatment of minorities in Muslim countries....can someone explain to me why the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul doesnt have a cross in it anymore? Was that an interior decorating decision?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia

it was turned into a Mosque from a church. do you expect to see the crescent on a church instead of a cross?

wasalam
-SI-

 

[Link]

I am curious. Doesn't this crackdown contradict with the following ayah (verse) from the Qur'an (2:256)?

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[]and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

Is the government really acting in an Islamic manner here?


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Good thing our scholars don't have tunnel vision like that. If you look at some of the commandments of Quran it shows force, like you do zina and get caught by four, this and this happens. This is force.

This aya has nothing to do with shariah, as you know by shariah, apostates are killed for example, by shariah you steel and you get punished. There is force in all this.

What that aya refers to, is for obedience to be called obedience, or submission to be called submission, it must be out of free-will, hence why mankind is chosen above rest of creation, because we have been entrusted with free-will to an extent no creature has.

For us to serve Allah (swt), worship Allah (swt), it must out of our own will, otherwise, i imagine there would be no neccessity of free-will, and Iblis would never had change to disobey neither would have we been tested for ranks, nor would there be ranks.

In the US some places you can't walk naked. Some beaches you can. School you expected a limit of dress code, can't come walking with bikini on for example. All these standards are man made. Quran rejects legislation of ignorance.

Now, should we allow in IRan everyone to walk naked? ofcourse you will say no, that is redicolous. Then what should be the standard. Now you think of something you think is ok, but you know what, why should anyone give a crap about anyones thoughts of what is ok clothing? Quran has a standard of clothing, and that's the only clothing we gonna accept.

In 300 years, what if it becomes normal for the west to wear nothing, would it be then oppression to force clothes on people.

We seek freedom from Satan and lower self, not from God, the light, and the MEssenger (pbuh) and his perfect successors (as) and Imam's (as) representives may God be pleased with them and protect them.

 

[Link]

Anyone who gives values to Western ignorant opinion for anything regarding social morality is really getting close to the borderline of shirk.

It is the west who have oppressed the serenity and dignity of women and let the dogs out and their society is going the same path as the past destroyed societies. Who let the dogs out? Who who? I will tell you, The FREEMASONS DID.

 

[Link]

I'd rather see the veils banned...

Way to go the Netherlands for doing so :thumbs_up

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6194032.stm Place your votes here

Devil worshippers.

 

[guyabano]

As Islamic State, Iranian Women have the rights (to the highest level possible) to:
1. go schooling + teaching
2. working + running healthy business.
3. sporting including swimming + driving cars
4. practicing fixed time (temporary) marriage that is not allowed in other lands
on the pretext that the 2nd Caliph made it unlawful leaving what God says:
(4:24) Then as to those whom you profit by, give them their dowries as appointed
And there is no blame on you about what you mutually agree after what is appointed.
5. transferable+ non-transferable ownership that is denied even in some western countries.
6. inheretence of Spouse, father, Mother, brothers , sisters ++++

They have NO right to:
1. provoke men with their well-engineered bodies + ?-erecting movements.
2. build many relationships with more than one man at one time.
3. sing and dance in public.

Moreover, they are well-protected: They do not have to work or go (w)hole-selling to live.
They are looked after by the closest relatives first then by God-fearing spouses.

For more details, see the rights of Women in Islam at: ...
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There are the Rules of Islam + the Land : No Sex-Shops, No Cheap TV+Cinema, No Bad Hijab.
Peace + Flowers

Now, viewing your point 3. They can go swimming. How, what are they then wearing? Just curious !

And besides, what is the problem with a bikini? Women wear a bikini to become suntanned/epose their skin to the sun. Nothing more. If you, as a man cannot resist to watch and become erected, then it is YOUR problem. So don't look and don't go to a beach. Finally, it is your Problem!
Rules made by men can sometimes be so stupid !

And further, you mention, they don't have to work but on other side, they can (I quote) '2. working + running healthy business.'

Now what is that? Isn't that a bit controverse ?

 

[Link]

No how about this. Youths are not perfect, heck yeah I can't control myself which is why I don't go to beaches! Alot of youths are weak. You go ahead and watch your society become Godless disgusting and Satan's minions, we are no way in hell are going to that.

Like anyone gives a **** about your ignorant opinion except polythiestic dummies, all praise belongs to God we submit to his guidance in social, political and spiritual. Our lord, our Master, our Patron and Guardian.

 

[guyabano]

No how about this. Youths are not perfect, heck yeah I can't control myself which is why I don't go to beaches! Alot of youths are weak. You go ahead and watch your society become Godless disgusting and Satan's minions, we are no way in hell are going to that.

Like anyone gives a **** about your ignorant opinion except polythiestic dummies, all praise belongs to God we submit to his guidance in social, political and spiritual. Our lord, our Master, our Patron and Guardian.

Classical standard answer of a person, who feel concerned and start to bark now like a threatened dog in the corner and then start to become insulting.
You are one of those weak men who cannot resist the temptation, that's why you prefer to ban it.
As I said before: Don't like, don't watch. You can control it. If not, you're WEAK !
This is not only a statement for muslims, but globally. A man has to control his feelings. If he can't, he doesn't belong to the society !

and PLUS, why you annoy me with these words, I just analize, what AzizMostafa said.

 

[north_malaysian]

Regarding the benevolent treatment of minorities in Muslim countries....can someone explain to me why the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul doesnt have a cross in it anymore? Was that an interior decorating decision?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia

How about the Grand Mosque of Cordoba and another 1,000 mosques in Cordoba?

 

[Malaikah]

Now, viewing your point 3. They can go swimming. How, what are they then wearing? Just curious !

I don't know abour Iran, but Saudi Arabia actually has beaches that are 100% women only. So women can swim (I doubt they swim in bikinis though), with out worrying about perverted men too.

And besides, what is the problem with a bikini? Women wear a bikini to become suntanned/epose their skin to the sun. Nothing more. If you, as a man cannot resist to watch and become erected, then it is YOUR problem. So don't look and don't go to a beach.

Two points-

1. Have you ever heard of skin cancer? Kills heaps of people where I come from. Bikinis don't solve that problem.

2. By that logic it should be perfect fine to walk around in the streets, and on the play ground, naked. But it isn't. Please explain to why?

Rules made by men can sometimes be so stupid

Yeh, that is why we believe in the divine law, and not man made law.

 

[guyabano]

I don't know abour Iran, but Saudi Arabia actually has beaches that are 100% women only. So women can swim (I doubt they swim in bikinis though), with out worrying about perverted men too.



Two points-

1. Have you ever heard of skin cancer? Kills heaps of people where I come from. Bikinis don't solve that problem.

2. By that logic it should be perfect fine to walk around in the streets, and on the play ground, naked. But it isn't. Please explain to why?



Yeh, that is why we believe in the divine law, and not man made law.

There do not exist any divine law, every law system has his failures.
If you would really follow this law, you would have no cellphone, as cellphones are made by, what you call, 'unbelievers'.
And yet, nearby every muslim own one, as the stoning video of the iraq girl has shown us. Full of NOKIA's, SAMSUNGS, LG and whatever. :?

Skin Cancer, ok, for sure. This is a point, but that is also again the responsability of the individual person for how long he/she will expose the body to the sun.

What has walking naked to do with the wearing of a bikini?

FYI: There do exist villages were nudism is allowed and were they have their own small villages (communities). So same again, don't like, don't go !