Lone Muslim debates with 7000+ Sikhs on their forum

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Al Madani said:
Actually the nail, like your hair is dead and is being removed from your body as a waste. If you really want to 'submit to God' then grow your nails too, or else I see double standards and a clear flaw in your beliefs.
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How did you come to conclusion that hair is dead? The portion of nail that's attached to the skin is alive and rest of the nail is dead.

If you think hair is just waste, then why not shave your head, instead of only trimming the hair?
 
cali dude said:
How did you come to conclusion that hair is dead?
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because it doesn't scream ouch, ouch this hurts.. pls don't cut me.. if it were "alive" you'd feel pain, it is really that simple!-- :rollseyes :rollseyes :rollseyes
 
What's even simpler is that since it grows, it's alive. But your answer isn't scientific definition of something alive. Plants don't cry either. It doesn't mean that they are not alive. So what Muslims believe that God created hair for nothing?
 
cali dude said:
What's even simpler is that since it grows, it's alive. But your answer isn't scientific definition of something alive. Plants don't cry either. It doesn't mean that they are not alive. So what Muslims believe that God created hair for nothing?
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Do Sikhs believe that God created the nails for nothing?
 
cali dude said:
How did you come to conclusion that hair is dead? The portion of nail that's attached to the skin is alive and rest of the nail is dead.

If you think hair is just waste, then why not shave your head, instead of only trimming the hair?
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Same way the portion of hair that is attached to the skin can be said that it is alive and the rest id dead.

If you want to differentiate between hair and nails then you must show proof that they are different in terms of "life".
 
Is this gonna be known as the lone sikh takes on 70,000 muslims on their forum... lol.

Yeah seriously cali dude we're not dissing your religion, but provide proof from your texts. To my understanding sikhism is like 300 years old. Sikh is the punjabi word which means learn. Guru Nanak was heavily influenced by Islam and sikhism takes many of its practises from Islam, such as growing a beard and wearing turbans etc... I also understand some sikhs are strict vegetarians and some arent just like the hindus. Are they vegetarian simply because of the reincarnation concept, for instance eating a cow or any animal means you might be eating one of your dead relatives. Also your the one dissing yourself by basing your claim of perfection just on the fact that you let hair grow. By your terminology, you must allow underarm and pubic hair too, a little advice that can lead to bad odours and in general bad hygiene.

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Showkat said:
Salaams All

Notice how the truth triumphs over falsehood and lies, follow the discussion taking place and how the Sikhs make accusations and then back off when they are asked to think and provide evidences. And near the end one Sikh agrees with certain rational and historical points.

http://forums.waheguroo.com/When-Why-How-t18824.html


The discussion with the Sikhs shows a few things.

1. How its possible for us to discuss Islam with non-Muslims in an intellectual manner

2. The weakness and fallacy of their arguments

3. How when the truth is presented they either quote lies or go silent.
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thanks for sharing ....Insha Allah i will read later.


 
cali dude said:
Please keep in mind that I am not impressed by Islam at all.
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No one is holding u... u can get out of this forum...

Let the dicussions be useful.... no blaming each other...
 
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cali dude said:
What's even simpler is that since it grows, it's alive. But your answer isn't scientific definition of something alive. Plants don't cry either. It doesn't mean that they are not alive. So what Muslims believe that God created hair for nothing?
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Umm... Hair is not alive. It can't be since it is not made out of cells.

To be living it has to be made of cells. Tree are alive because they are made out of cells. The same goes for animals, fungi, bacteria, slime molds, algae etc. But not hair. Hair is made out of protein.

If you think it is alive because it grows longer, well nails grow longer too. They are not alive.

By the way, do you differentiate between the hair on the head and body/facial hair? If yes, why?
 
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cali dude said:
By the way, if you cut your hair, that means you do not accept the way God created you, thus have not fully submitted yourself to God....
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LOL . God sent us without any dress , then why Sikh people even kids wear dress ? Does it mean U don't like ur birthday dress & wearing clothes means u are not submitted to God ????



BTW , do Sikh women cut their hair ?

 
Well I guess there is something Muslims will never understand. It's God's will.
But think about it why do you think prophets kept long hair? Those who think keeping long is being filthy, think again.

Statements like this:

LOL . God sent us without any dress , then why Sikh people even kids wear dress ? Does it mean U don't like ur birthday dress & wearing clothes means u are not submitted to God ????
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are silly statements...

and Muslims Woman laughing for no reason is only for abnormal people. Think about it. Her answer had no logic....
 
Where is your proof for this? Maybe you need to "think again?"
Muslim men are allowed only to keep hair shoulder length. I highly doubt they had hair as long as Sikhs keep. And as Sikhs, you can't cut your hair at all right? That isnt the same for us.

And making statements without proof is ignorant. It really doesnt help to tell anyone how to behave if you cant do it yourself.

And generally speaking, no one should be laughing at each others beliefs, its really low.

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cali dude said:
But think about it why do you think prophets kept long hair? Those who think keeping long is being filthy, think again.

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Prophet Isa's hair only came to Just above his Shoulders.

Prophet Muhammads hair came to to earlobes. And He used to cut his hair, It was not considered something sacred.

Where's your proof that all prophets kept long hair?
 
Jazzy said:
Muslim men are allowed only to keep hair shoulder length. I highly doubt they had hair as long as Sikhs keep. Where is your prrof for this? Maybe you need to "think again?"


And making statements without proof is ignorant. It really doesnt help to tell anyone how to behave if you cant do it yourself.
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So what are you saying, prophets (Jesus Christ or Mohammad) didn't have beard or long head hair?

So what's purpose, for Muslim, to keep hair at all?
 
You mentioned hair not beard. Did i say they didnt have a beard or no long hair? The long hair being talked about isn't like what you guys keep. Like sis Mawaddah said, its not "sacred."
 
Put a Sikh and a Muslim side by side I cannot tell a difference. The only difference they have is the hair. Muslims wear turban and have beard. Whats the point of this debate agian how long people should keep there hair? :S Is that even something to debate on. There are many bigger issues then that like oneness of Allah S.W.T
 
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