Britain drops 'War on Terror' term

[Keltoi]

Just for giggles, I will actually comment on the topic.

I've noticed a few politicians in the U.S. have started to refer to this conflict as a "War on Extremism". I believe John McCain used the phrase. Not sure what the difference is really.

 

[Nablus]

It is not enough

what is happening in Iraq is terror from Britain and USA!!

 

[Keltoi]

It is not enough

what is happening in Iraq is terror from Britain and USA!!

What is happening in Iraq is terror from all sides.

 

[August]

They should drop "war on terror" terrorism is a tactic, not a movement.

 

[Keltoi]

They should drop "war on terror" terrorism is a tactic, not a movement.

I agree with you in principle, but the thing is, Islamic terrorism(yeah, I said it), is a movement. However, we can't call it that can we? So "War on Terror", while a dumb and unspecific phrase, is probably the only phrase PC politics has left us with.

 

[wilberhum]

I agree with you in principle, but the thing is, Islamic terrorism(yeah, I said it), is a movement. However, we can't call it that can we? So "War on Terror", while a dumb and unspecific phrase, is probably the only phrase PC politics has left us with.

A Rose by any other name is still .........

 

[Muezzin]

A Rose by any other name is still .........

Actually, it's 'a rose by any other name would smell as sweet'.

I think.

Anyway, 'War on Terror' is a nice jingoistic slogan, but it doesn't stop terrorists becoming empowered by it, for it further separates them from the common criminal and places them on a socio-political pedestal - no one saw fit to declare a war on paedophilia, for instance.

(note to silly people: I am not advocating terrorism, I am just criticising labels)

 

[Talha777]

They should just come out and be honest. It's the "War on Islam". It'll do us a favour so the confused Muslim masses finally know who their enemy is.

 

[Muezzin]

If it's a war on Islam, I shall take extra care in case SAS agents burst through my window while I go to pray Isha.

 

[wilberhum]

They should just come out and be honest. It's the "War on Islam". It'll do us a favour so the confused Muslim masses finally know who their enemy is.

It is a war on Islam to the same extent that Islam is at war with the non-Islamic world. :skeleton:
Well I guess that you are right. :?

 

[Muezzin]

Let's not get sidetracked, please. Everyone knows the prospect makes me as grumpy as Rumpelstiltskin having to show his ID.

 

[KAding]

They should just come out and be honest. It's the "War on Islam". It'll do us a favour so the confused Muslim masses finally know who their enemy is.

I disagree. "War on a certain interpretation of Islam" would be correct though. Despite there being only one Islam, it is clear there are enough interpretations to cause confusion even between Muslims. Thats why virtually all governments in Muslim countries, from Morocco to Indonesia and all in between essentially are fighting the same people as the US. The US is directly or indirectly allied to so many Muslims, who do a lot of the fighting in this war as well, that calling it a 'war on Islam' would not make sense.

Unless you are willing to declare all these Muslims who resist these same groups as the US to be Munafiq of course. But I'm not sure if there are many people in the Muslim world who would have the authority to actually do that.

 

[August]

Exactly, this isn't a war on Islam. The "Islamic" terrorists that we are fighting are attackin Muslims too. In fact, I'd guess that other Muslims make up the majority of their victims.

 

[Pygoscelis]

It is about bloody time a politician realized that terrorism isn't something you can go to war against. Terrorism is like cancer. It needs to be treated surgically and with precision, with diplomacy, police, and propaganda as much as with military. What Bush and Blair did was attack an infected area with a chainsaw - doing far more harm than good.

 

[islamirama]

they can also call it war for oil

or....

They should just come out and be honest. It's the "War on Islam". It'll do us a favour so the confused Muslim masses finally know who their enemy is.

Most Muslims believe it to be as well as many non-Muslims now, only terrorists seem to be found anywhere in the world are Muslims and only "cowboys" wanting to kill these "terrorists" are the two horns of the devil.

Still, 'War on Terror' sounds pretty nifty

i'm sure it does to a non-muslim or westerner.

If it's a war on Islam, I shall take extra care in case SAS agents burst through my window while I go to pray Isha.

You're muslim? sorry i didn't notice... are you a convert by any chance?

 

[Woodrow]

What Bush and Blair did was attack an infected area with a chainsaw - doing far more harm than good.

One of the better statements posted on this thread. That is what happened. You know if you put a tiny spark out gently, it goes out without even being noticed and causes very little damage, but if you jump in and try to stomp it out with heavy equipment you can soon have a raging brush fire that can spread into a forest fire.

 

[Muezzin]

i'm sure it does to a non-muslim or westerner.

I was being tongue-in-cheek. Hence:

The 'War on Terror' is just another jingoistic label that actually empowers those it seeks to debase by placing them in a position of importance. It's also quite vague, but I guess in politics, they have to call this fighting something, otherwise it doesn't have meaning. That's why I'm not too fond of politics.

You're muslim? sorry i didn't notice... are you a convert by any chance?

Are you always this passive aggressive?

I was born Muslim by the way. Not that there's anything wrong with converting/reverting to Islam.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

cover up names have always been common throughout the times.


:-/

 

[aamirsaab]

Britain drops 'War on Terror' term

It's a positive start at least.

 

[islamirama]

I was being tongue-in-cheek. Hence:

The 'War on Terror' is just another jingoistic label that actually empowers those it seeks to debase by placing them in a position of importance. It's also quite vague, but I guess in politics, they have to call this fighting something, otherwise it doesn't have meaning. That's why I'm not too fond of politics.

It is a war on Islam regardless of what others say or call it. Everyone knows and everyone believes it. If they want to call it something then call it what the whole Muslim world is calling it, war on ISLAM.

oh and this change of name tactic wont' work, "give me liberty or give me death" - thomas Jefferson .....

Are you always this passive aggressive?

only when it comes to defending against attacks on Muslims from kuffars and moderate "muslims".

I was born Muslim by the way. Not that there's anything wrong with converting/reverting to Islam.

nope, nothing wrong unless you carry over that cultural patriotic baggage to keep throwing in other Muslim's face, making them wonder where your loyalty lies.